Nichols visit starts tonight...

[papatomany]

Maybe I'm just a depressed weirdo, but I love the cloudy overcast with Tennessee scenery. I think it's just beautiful.

Aww. You're not JUST a depressed weirdo. You have other fine qualities as well.

(Incidentally, overcast Fall day is one of my favorites, too.)

 

[SJAVol32]

Hmmm...SJA, that's interesting that his father said they may not sign until the Spring. That's tough for whoever gets the verbal in November. Gotta keep recruiting the committed guys until they sign. And as always, there's never a guarantee with a young kid until he's signed that LOI.

That's not uncommon with recruits that are that highly sought after. They usually wait until after the season to see how the teams play and how they perform in post season. I think if he does commit now and our season does go well. We won't have to worry about him committing somewhere else.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Good grub and great hospitality go a long way Hopefully, you guys can meet up.

I won't do anything that'd even resemble any sort of violation....he just really appreciates the hospitality and conversations we've had as I've had many talks with him that didn't even speak about basketball, just life in general and religion.

He's a great kid and I would love him to be in orange next year...hubbs and Nichols on the floor together gives me goosebumps.

One thing worth noting....for those keeping track, obviously Nichols family is spending some out of pocket money. You get 48 hours on a OV, their OV won't take effect until tomorrow evening, everything tonight is on them...that's worth noting.

 

[MemphisCanes]

And memphis wasn't really pursuing stokes once they knew he was entolling in December, you have pretty much stated this.

I agree stokes opened up the door into Memphis, but I think it was a matter of time before he got in there anyway.

Nichols played with Skal on m33m, obviously also Hubbs as well...he's friends with a lot of Memphis area kids, and it definitely won't hurt UT in Memphis.

I just think given the circumstances this would say more, Memphis has a spot and has really made him a priority, same cant be said for Stokes. I've talked to some national media people and they've all said the same, it'd be bigger...now thtat wasn't the case a couple months ago, but now that Memphis has really become visible that's changed.

No right or wrong answer I don't guess, all just opinion....I just really think the Nichols signing would be much more impressive than the Stokes signing.

Pastner had made his pitch to Jarnell by late November of 2011. Jarnell was either going to wait out his Sr year or not; if not, he wasn't going to Memphis. We didn't stop recrutiing him, technically.

Nichols may mean more, as it would be a marked W in a recruiting battle against Memphis, but Stokes meant more to the program, I think. I don't think Hubbs or Nichols really have a sway on Skal. Skal is a public school kid, and I think having a guy like Stokes on roaster who is also a MCS kid is more powerful.

 

[MphsBlues]

I won't do anything that'd even resemble any sort of violation....he just really appreciates the hospitality and conversations we've had as I've had many talks with him that didn't even speak about basketball, just life in general and religion.

He's a great kid and I would love him to be in orange next year...hubbs and Nichols on the floor together gives me goosebumps.

One thing worth noting....for those keeping track, obviously Nichols family is spending some out of pocket money. You get 48 hours on a OV, their OV won't take effect until tomorrow evening, everything tonight is on them...that's worth noting.

Of course not. Seriously, I didn't know you couldn't even feed a recruit as a friend-if you can't. The AA has a rule book that the most proficient minds in the business would have a hard time keeping up with. Very promising that they are willing to spend their own dime for the first 24 hours.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Pastner had made his pitch to Jarnell by late November of 2011. Jarnell was either going to wait out his Sr year or not; if not, he wasn't going to Memphis. We didn't stop recrutiing him, technically.

Nichols may mean more, as it would be a marked W in a recruiting battle against Memphis, but Stokes meant more to the program, I think. I don't think Hubbs or Nichols really have a sway on Skal. Skal is a public school kid, and I think having a guy like Stokes on roaster who is also a MCS kid is more powerful.

Fair enough.

How many D1 guys does briarcrest produce, have on its current team?

 

[cncchris33]

That'd be a complete negative.

I agree. BTO (and others for that matter) is entitled to his opinion, but getting a public school kid Memphis wanted will trump a private school kid Memphis didn't want until the end most times. Most private school kids leave the area anyway, so Nichols leaving town won't be a shock to many. Stokes was under a unique set of circumstances, but Memphis wanted him badly and all things being equal, Tennessee would have struggled to get him.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree. BTO (and others for that matter) is entitled to his opinion, but getting a public school kid Memphis wanted will trump a private school kid Memphis didn't want until the end most times. Most private school kids leave the area anyway, so Nichols leaving town won't be a shock to many. Stokes was under a unique set of circumstances, but Memphis wanted him badly and all things being equal, Tennessee would have struggled to get him.

That's my point, perception in Memphis and nationally is UT got Stokes solely because Memphis didn't have room.

I've said, if Memphis had a scholarship for Stokes, then I agree stokes is the bigger pull.

But when is the last time a 5* recruit legitimately picked UT over Memphis with all things being equal?

It doesn't just speak about Memphis recruiting, but duke/unc as well...typically private school kids leave Memphis...maybe Nichols sets a new precedent an shows some private school kids a new option.

 

[cncchris33]

Pastner had made his pitch to Jarnell by late November of 2011. Jarnell was either going to wait out his Sr year or not; if not, he wasn't going to Memphis. We didn't stop recrutiing him, technically.

Nichols may mean more, as it would be a marked W in a recruiting battle against Memphis, but Stokes meant more to the program, I think. I don't think Hubbs or Nichols really have a sway on Skal. Skal is a public school kid, and I think having a guy like Stokes on roaster who is also a MCS kid is more powerful.

Unless he's moved schools, Skal is not a public school kid. He attends Evangelical Christian School, which is private IIRC.

 

[tennrich1]

That's my point, perception in Memphis and nationally is UT got Stokes solely because Memphis didn't have room.

I've said, if Memphis had a scholarship for Stokes, then I agree stokes is the bigger pull.

But when is the last time a 5* recruit legitimately picked UT over Memphis with all things being equal?

It doesn't just speak about Memphis recruiting, but duke/unc as well...typically private school kids leave Memphis...maybe Nichols sets a new precedent an shows some private school kids a new option.

It is completely obvious when rightly understood that Austin is a bigger deal coming to UT than Jarnell...it seems silly to me one couldnt understand that...been following recruiting in this area for years...Bleed you RIGHT ON POINT and I COMPLETELY understand it...now the ones that don't...well obviously they have a vested interest for that statement NOT TO BE TRUE!!!

 

[Kusotate]

It is completely obvious when rightly understood that Austin is a bigger deal coming to UT than Jarnell...it seems silly to me one couldnt understand that...been following recruiting in this area for years...Bleed you RIGHT ON POINT and I COMPLETELY understand it...now the ones that don't...well obviously they have a vested interest for that statement NOT TO BE TRUE!!!

How is his point valid? Nichols is a private school kid and private school kids do not sign with the Tigers even if the Tigers are recruiting them.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

How is his point valid? Nichols is a private school kid and private school kids do not sign with the Tigers even if the Tigers are recruiting them.

Lol so why bother recruiting or offering them? Or for that matter making him a priority at a position of need...uneducated post.

I'm sure your tune changes if he comes to Memphis though.

 

[MemphisCanes]

Fair enough.

How many D1 guys does briarcrest produce, have on its current team?

None that I know of, at least in bball.

 

[knowthevols]

That's my point, perception in Memphis and nationally is UT got Stokes solely because Memphis didn't have room.

I've said, if Memphis had a scholarship for Stokes, then I agree stokes is the bigger pull.

But when is the last time a 5* recruit legitimately picked UT over Memphis with all things being equal?

It doesn't just speak about Memphis recruiting, but duke/unc as well...typically private school kids leave Memphis...maybe Nichols sets a new precedent an shows some private school kids a new option.

I understand your point now, thanks.

 

[Kusotate]

Lol so why bother recruiting or offering them? Or for that matter making him a priority at a position of need...uneducated post.

I'm sure your tune changes if he comes to Memphis though.

Your rebuttal is flawed..............

Can't believe you're honestly asking "why recruit him" if we know we have no chance of signing him. Why don't you ask CCM why is he recruiting guys he has no shot at signing. Which position is Austin the priority at the position of need for, we've already signed Iverson who was the PF we wanted not to mention Shaq is on campus.

 

[MemphisCanes]

Unless he's moved schools, Skal is not a public school kid. He attends Evangelical Christian School, which is private IIRC.

He's transferring to Olive Branch or Southwind or something.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Your rebuttal is flawed..............

Can't believe you're honestly asking "why recruit him" if we know we have no chance of signing him. Why don't you ask CCM why is he recruiting guys he has no shot at signing. Which position is Austin the priority at the position of need for, we've already signed Iverson who was the PF we wanted not to mention Shaq is on campus.

How many guys has CCM brought in on UOV that we didn't have a chance the least bit on?

Pastner isn't just sending out a feeler to Nichols, all coaches do that sure. But Memphis is recruiting Nichols hard...why recruit someone hard if there's no chance on landing them? Most coaches don't do that...

Most menphis fans and writers I've seen have said another big is needed...that memphis really needed one of Coleby, Williams and Nichols.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

None that I know of, at least in bball.

Oh ok, I wasnt sure if they were good in bball usually or if Nichols was a fluke.

 

[Kusotate]

How many guys has CCM brought in on UOV that we didn't have a chance the least bit on?

Pastner isn't just sending out a feeler to Nichols, all coaches do that sure. But Memphis is recruiting Nichols hard...why recruit someone hard if there's no chance on landing them? Most coaches don't do that...

Most menphis fans and writers I've seen have said another big is needed...that memphis really needed one of Coleby, Williams and Nichols.

Memphis does need another Big, but you're acting like Nichols makes or breaks the Tiger's class. The guy is a good player and he's local, so why not recruit him and try to convince him to stay home?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Memphis does need another Big, but you're acting like Nichols makes or breaks the Tiger's class. The guy is a good player and he's local, so why not recruit him and try to convince him to stay home?

No Memphis has a great class regardless of if they get anyone else or not. I'm just relaying that I've heard and read Memphis ideally needed one of Coleby, Williams and Nichols...and obviously missed on Coleby so now down to 2 options.

And reason being because you likely could push and get someone else instead of making him seem priority #1 now. If you feel you have no shot at him...I'd be full courting Williams, or even Coleby...by making Nichols seem like the guy you want you may be turning off the other 2.

I'm pretty confident in saying that I don't think pastner views it as zero chance on Nichols or private school kids...I'm guessing he liked his chances. Most coaches if they don't feel confident don't pursue a recruit very hard, pastner has definitely been turning it up on Nichols.

 

[dixiebullfrog]

Not hardly...

Memphis media has tabbed him one of the 5 most important recruits in Memphis history, stokes didn't get that label.

Memphis has room for Nichols, they didn't for stokes...and almost all Memphis fans say that's the only reason we got stokes.

I can assure you, if we get Nichols its a bigger statement in Memphis than getting stokes.

BTO --- don't lie to your faithful; John Martin said it one time prior to Memphis Madness in an obvious attempt to sway Nichols' our way. "Memphis media".... funny!

And, if it was true, why all the UM interest in other bigs? Nichols was history going somewhere else; our priority was King/Iverson/two real BIGS. Snatched King away from UT at the last second per BTO/followers.

Pat yourself on the back when/if you get Nichols. Just don't build it up like it was dog-eat-dog and UT won. Ha!

 

[Gcrop]

Memphis media has tabbed him one of the 5 most important recruits in Memphis history, stokes didn't get that label.

Might as well just use the one guy's name who actually made that statement. I don't think more than one person has said that.

(I don't agree with the statement for a second).


EDIT: Dixie beat me by a few seconds evidently. lol

 

[MemphisCanes]

Ouch. Sounds like Papa Nichols may not be touting UT as much as once belived.

"I don't know if that would be a good fit for him, you know because Tennessee has a grind-out style type of play and I think a more open offense would be more conducive to Austin now," Mark Nichols said.

"I'm not saying it wouldn't work, but I'm saying I just think he would fit better other places. If he chooses Tennessee, I'll be happy for him and we'll go on with it. It'll be up to Cuonzo to get the best out of him. Hopefully he'd have a system that works for him."

 

[bleedingTNorange]

BTO --- don't lie to your faithful; John Martin said it one time prior to Memphis Madness in an obvious attempt to sway Nichols' our way. "Memphis media".... funny!

And, if it was true, why all the UM interest in other bigs? Nichols was history going somewhere else; our priority was King/Iverson/two real BIGS. Snatched King away from UT at the last second per BTO/followers.

Pat yourself on the back when/if you get Nichols. Just don't build it up like it was dog-eat-dog and UT won. Ha!

Uhm interest in other bigs? Who? Coleby and Williams, well you've missed on Coleby, so now what? The interest in the others I'd presume would be a backup plan...even you should understand that.

I said Memphis snatched king from UT at the last minute...I'll go ahead and wait for that link for you to provide since you apparently are only capable of spreading false information...

Memphis wants and is pushing hard for Nichols...if it makes you feel better to downplay the interest in assumption Nichols picks UT...then so be it.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Might as well just use the one guy's name who actually made that statement. I don't think more than one person has said that.

(I don't agree with the statement for a second).


EDIT: Dixie beat me by a few seconds evidently. lol

Because I didn't remember who, but it was John Martin iirc...