Nick Saban

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Lawrence Wright said:
He’s also the head coach of your very successful rival and standard bearer of our conference, so your emotional responses in this thread are understandable and noted.

Saban’s the GOAT, like it or not.
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I think it is the blatant favoritism that his teams get that drive people crazy. Alabama did NOT deserve to go in 2011 and that shouldn't be a real title. LSU was forced in a rematch that was BS. Should have been Oklahoma State.

Same thing this year. If you take his team, results, etc. and rename them to South Carolina Gamecocks, I doubt they are in CFB Playoffs right now and you know it.

I don't care if he is GOAT, GOAT's get favoritism.

To me, it is like playing someone in Risk 16 times (or how many seasons he has been at Alabama) and letting that player start with 10 extra armies and then cheering him on as best player ever when he keeps winning. Alabama gets recruiting, officiating, and media advantages that other programs do not get so the game is rigged.

To me, Bill Synder is the GOAT. He took one of the worse programs in FBS history (Kansas State) and made them into a powerhouse. I would love to see Saban go to Vanderbilt and win an SEC title, then I will call him the GOAT.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think it is the blatant favoritism that his teams get that drive people crazy. Alabama did NOT deserve to go in 2011 and that shouldn't be a real title. LSU was forced in a rematch that was BS. Should have been Oklahoma State.

Same thing this year. If you take his team, results, etc. and rename them to South Carolina Gamecocks, I doubt they are in CFB Playoffs right now and you know it.

I don't care if he is GOAT, GOAT's get favoritism.

To me, it is like playing someone in Risk 16 times (or how many seasons he has been at Alabama) and letting that player start with 10 extra armies and then cheering him on as best player ever when he keeps winning. Alabama gets recruiting, officiating, and media advantages that other programs do not get so the game is rigged.

To me, Bill Synder is the GOAT. He took one of the worse programs in FBS history (Kansas State) and made them into a powerhouse. I would love to see Saban go to Vanderbilt and win an SEC title, then I will call him the GOAT.
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Your opinions are noted.

Thank you.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Can we all agree that he’s over stayed his welcome?

Biased officiating and the CF committee handing him a free ride to the play offs is truly sickening.

I respect him as a coach but I can’t stand the guy anymore.
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On the contrary.....what that staff has done with the program this year is truly remarkable. The development of Milroe over the course of this season has been nothing short of amazing. They looked very mediocre at the beginning of the season and have developed into one of the best teams in the country. That is all coaching. They deserve to be there and I will be surprised if they don't win it all. I can't stand bama as much as anyone, but results are results. I only wish our team had improved this much.
 
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Volfan76 said:
On the contrary.....what that staff has done with the program this year is truly remarkable. The development of Milroe over the course of this season has been nothing short of amazing. They looked very mediocre at the beginning of the season and have developed into one of the best teams in the country. That is all coaching. They deserve to be there and I will be surprised if they don't win it all. I can't stand bama as much as anyone, but results are results. I only wish our team had improved this much.
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I can agree somewhat. I would also add the defense. Their defense last year was not good at all and it has improved as this season has progressed.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think it is the blatant favoritism that his teams get that drive people crazy. Alabama did NOT deserve to go in 2011 and that shouldn't be a real title. LSU was forced in a rematch that was BS. Should have been Oklahoma State.

Same thing this year. If you take his team, results, etc. and rename them to South Carolina Gamecocks, I doubt they are in CFB Playoffs right now and you know it.

I don't care if he is GOAT, GOAT's get favoritism.

To me, it is like playing someone in Risk 16 times (or how many seasons he has been at Alabama) and letting that player start with 10 extra armies and then cheering him on as best player ever when he keeps winning. Alabama gets recruiting, officiating, and media advantages that other programs do not get so the game is rigged.

To me, Bill Synder is the GOAT. He took one of the worse programs in FBS history (Kansas State) and made them into a powerhouse. I would love to see Saban go to Vanderbilt and win an SEC title, then I will call him the GOAT.
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Bill Snyder? What about Knute Rockne?
 
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TNVOL68 said:
This may not make any sense, but I believe if Saban was the coach of Florida State, they would have got in
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Makes sense to me.

I believe the SEC is corrupt with refs, money, etc. I don't think it is 100% pro-Alabama, it is just they pick which ever team or teams are in the running and favor them to do what they can to get them in playoffs even at the expense of other conference members that are not in the running. It is a dirty business.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Makes sense to me.

I believe the SEC is corrupt with refs, money, etc. I don't think it is 100% pro-Alabama, it is just they pick which ever team or teams are in the running and favor them to do what they can to get them in playoffs even at the expense of other conference members that are not in the running. It is a dirty business.
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It's the sports version of "the rich get richer" - when you're doing well, things seem to fall in your lap at a higher rate than might be expected.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think it is the blatant favoritism that his teams get that drive people crazy. Alabama did NOT deserve to go in 2011 and that shouldn't be a real title. LSU was forced in a rematch that was BS. Should have been Oklahoma State.
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Why? Oklahoma St.'s loss was WAY worse than Alabama's.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I believe the SEC is corrupt with refs, money, etc. I don't think it is 100% pro-Alabama, it is just they pick which ever team or teams are in the running and favor them to do what they can to get them in playoffs even at the expense of other conference members that are not in the running. It is a dirty business.
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Maybe not 100% but somewhere > 99%. Alabama has had the SEC in their hip pocket long before Saban got there.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think it is the blatant favoritism that his teams get that drive people crazy. Alabama did NOT deserve to go in 2011 and that shouldn't be a real title. LSU was forced in a rematch that was BS. Should have been Oklahoma State.

Same thing this year. If you take his team, results, etc. and rename them to South Carolina Gamecocks, I doubt they are in CFB Playoffs right now and you know it.

I don't care if he is GOAT, GOAT's get favoritism.

To me, it is like playing someone in Risk 16 times (or how many seasons he has been at Alabama) and letting that player start with 10 extra armies and then cheering him on as best player ever when he keeps winning. Alabama gets recruiting, officiating, and media advantages that other programs do not get so the game is rigged.

To me, Bill Synder is the GOAT. He took one of the worse programs in FBS history (Kansas State) and made them into a powerhouse. I would love to see Saban go to Vanderbilt and win an SEC title, then I will call him the GOAT.
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There is no goat. This era is totally different from the Bear era. It’s not even the same game. In early eras you didn’t get a “mulligan” plus the Sports media hated the South. Different times, different skills, different game.
 
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midnight orange said:
There is no goat. This era is totally different from the Bear era. It’s not even the same game. In early eras you didn’t get a “mulligan” plus the Sports media hated the South. Different times, different skills, different game.
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There’s a reason why the national sports media hated the south back then. 😂

Saban’s the 🐐, and it’s not close.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
There’s a reason why the national sports media hated the south back then. 😂

Saban’s the 🐐, and it’s not close.
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No he’s not. He’s one of the all time greats. Greatest in this era.

Or we can say Bill Russell is the goat of the NBA because he has the most titles.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You can say whatever you like.

I say Saban is the 🐐, and you’re more than welcome to disagree.
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Agreed. Saban is the greatest collegiate head coach in the history of the game. Much like Pat Summit, John Wooden and others in their respective sports, what he has done and is doing at Alabama is unlike anything I've seen. It's simply incredible. And this season might be his best coaching year...considering how Bama started compared to how they ended the season.
 
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McDad said:
Agreed. Saban is the greatest collegiate head coach in the history of the game. Much like Pat Summit, John Wooden and others in their respective sports, what he has done and is doing at Alabama is unlike anything I've seen. It's simply incredible. And this season might be his best coaching year...considering how Bama started compared to how they ended the season.
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and I still can't stand him....
 
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FCTA said:
Strike the matches, I’ll get flamed for this but Greg Sankey has grown the SEC to National Prominence
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I'm not striking any matches but Roy Kramer was the true visionary. The SEC's expansion to 12 teams, with the first D-1 conference championship game - which would include an overtime format, which is still in use today (it wasn't needed, but still, it's existence helped bring college football out of the dark ages of ties). He negotiated the SEC's contract with CBS in 1996. It guaranteed the conference a 3:30 pm major network time slot every week. He was also instrumental in the creation of the BCS .... which was the precursor to the CFP.
 
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volmanjr said:
and I still can't stand him....
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Most successful people, and certainly the all time best in any vocation, are hated more than they are loved.
Hating him doesn't harm him. It only harms those who hate him.

I respect what he has accomplished. He seems to have done it with very high integrity. And he has kept his family in tact to boot. Rare combinations these days.
 
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McDad said:
Most successful people, and certainly the all time best in any vocation, are hated more than they are loved.
Hating him doesn't harm him. It only harms those who hate him.

I respect what he has accomplished. He seems to have done it with very high integrity. And he has kept his family in tact to boot. Rare combinations these days.
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high integrity?? and I don't hate him he just rubs me the wrong way but so does Beamer and he is nowhere close to being a GOAT or even a GOAT's codsack. I didn't like Kiffin when he was with us either and really can't stand him now but I don't Hate any of them just makes me happy to see things not go their way.
 
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McDad said:
It only harms those who hate him.
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There is nothing harmful in disliking a whiner .... and he totally is one.
McDad said:
He seems to have done it with very high integrity.
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Debatable.

I'm still waiting for an explanation, which would have fallen within NCAA rules governing impermissible benefits at the time, concerning how Trent Richardson was driving a tricked-out GMC Yukon around Chilton County, Alabama in 2011 (retail value $40K - without the large rims).

Also, nobody talks about over-signing anymore, but there is no question that Saban was circumventing scholarship limits for years.
 
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