Nico will be at UT as a senior

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As much as I hate it Nico just ain't that good YET. It's going to take a while based on what I saw at the game last night. I'm not going to regurgitate everything that's already (I'm sure) been posted on this board.

Here's my issue with it and why I had higher expectations.
1. 8 million dollar top shelf QB recruit
2. A supposed "quarterback whisperer" as a head coach

We aren't talking about a 5th year transfer like Milton. I never had high hopes for that guy. This was supposed to be special with Nico. The perfect storm of a highly converted QB and a coach that was a former QB and is supposed to be a guru with them

Anyway there's no way Nico goes pro early. He needs way more work. He can get there I'm sure but I expected him to not look like Milton 2.0 ever in his career.

That's all I'll say in it. Bring on Bama.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
As much as I hate it Nico just ain't that good YET. It's going to take a while based on what I saw at the game last night. I'm not going to regurgitate everything that's already (I'm sure) been posted on this board.

Here's my issue with it and why I had higher expectations.
1. 8 million dollar top shelf QB recruit
2. A supposed "quarterback whisperer" as a head coach

We aren't talking about a 5th year transfer like Milton. I never had high hopes for that guy. This was supposed to be special with Nico. The perfect storm of a highly converted QB and a coach that was a former QB and is supposed to be a guru with them

Anyway there's no way Nico goes pro early. He needs way more work. He can get there I'm sure but I expected him to not look like Milton 2.0 ever in his career.

That's all I'll say in it. Bring on Bama.
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There were comparisons of Bryce Young and Tua Tagavaloa.
Young was awesome as a RS Freshman. Tua didn’t RS and made huge plays in the NC game as a true freshman. Had a huge sophomore year.

Both guys in their 2nd years were at the head of the table.

Here’s my problem:
I expressed this concern in spring of 2024. Nico was bigger and faster than he was in HS. But his natural ability to feel the game had seem to diminish from HS.

Just watch his HS tape. He’s NOT staring down WRs. He’s reading the defense quickly and delivering the ball. He only ran for 300 yards as a SR. Are defenses more advanced in college.?
OF COURSE.

But Bryce Young and Tua had to play against those same type of defenses. Especially Bryce in college didn’t have the supporting cast that Tua had…or Nico imo 🫤. (Bru, Thornton, Brazzell, Davis, Sampson, we have legit weapons)

So wtf happened?
I’m saying Nico was equally as advanced as both of those guys coming out of HS.
So what’s going on???

Halzle…
I watch him coach Nico and he’s always talking to him after every rep. There’s a such thing as over coaching.

Nico’s instincts and feel are not there anymore. That’s what made him great.

Nico is 2nd guessing every read he sees and never throws it. So then he focuses on one dude determined to feed him and the defense reads his eyes…PICK.
 
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I think the heavy choice routes may factor in, as well. Nico is not handling the bullets flying at him well…factor in the wide splits and the time it takes to deliver a ball on a choice route from there and I think you’ve got a young qb in a really disadvantageous position. I’ve also seen media guys mention he hasn’t really played a ton of live football, but was a 7 on 7 monster. It’s all starting to add up, in my opinion. I’m not dooming the kid, but there are going to have to be adjustments made to put him in a position to succeed.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
As much as I hate it Nico just ain't that good YET. It's going to take a while based on what I saw at the game last night. I'm not going to regurgitate everything that's already (I'm sure) been posted on this board.

Here's my issue with it and why I had higher expectations.
1. 8 million dollar top shelf QB recruit
2. A supposed "quarterback whisperer" as a head coach

We aren't talking about a 5th year transfer like Milton. I never had high hopes for that guy. This was supposed to be special with Nico. The perfect storm of a highly converted QB and a coach that was a former QB and is supposed to be a guru with them

Anyway there's no way Nico goes pro early. He needs way more work. He can get there I'm sure but I expected him to not look like Milton 2.0 ever in his career.

That's all I'll say in it. Bring on Bama.
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In 48 months, Hendon Hooker went from losing his job at a mediocre ACC school....to a legend here and now makes actual American dollars in the NFL. Growth isn't symmetrical. I wont bore you with the details, but look at the careers of Joe Burrow and Carson Palmer. Its really hard to chart production with kids this young.
 
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BillyHoyleVol said:
I think the heavy choice routes may factor in, as well. Nico is not handling the bullets flying at him well…factor in the wide splits and the time it takes to deliver a ball on a choice route from there and I think you’ve got a young qb in a really disadvantageous position. I’ve also seen media guys mention he hasn’t really played a ton of live football, but was a 7 on 7 monster. It’s all starting to add up, in my opinion. I’m not dooming the kid, but there are going to have to be adjustments made to put him in a position to succeed.
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All reasons why his coach should have played him more last year and taken a QB in the portal this year. Zero excuse not to have a legitimate QB competition with a kid that had started ONE total game.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I said we would have the best d-line in the country before the season. And they've been pretty much the only reason we're 5-1 right now. Probably tjhe best position group in the country right now.
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And I could get 10 hits in the majors if I got 300 ABs in a season. I'm not coming on here to brag about hitting .030
 
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sonofUT62 said:
All reasons why his coach should have played him more last year and taken a QB in the portal this year. Zero excuse not to have a legitimate QB competition with a kid that had started ONE total game.
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Yeah man…I don’t disagree. Nothing about Gaston Moore is dynamic enough to win games. Merk is clearly less ready than Nico. I think CJH played himself a little. Knowing what we know now, Nico was probably far from ready last season, but what message are you sending the kid (and the donors responsible for that $8 mil) if you go out and grab an experienced starter in the portal? Easy to overthink that conundrum. I’m not sure he made the right choice, either. Unfortunately, I don’t think we know for a few seasons.
 
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LittleVol said:
There were comparisons of Bryce Young and Tua Tagavaloa.
Young was awesome as a RS Freshman. Tua didn’t RS and made huge plays in the NC game as a true freshman. Had a huge sophomore year.

Both guys in their 2nd years were at the head of the table.

Here’s my problem:
I expressed this concern in spring of 2024. Nico was bigger and faster than he was in HS. But his natural ability to feel the game had seem to diminish from HS.

Just watch his HS tape. He’s NOT staring down WRs. He’s reading the defense quickly and delivering the ball. He only ran for 300 yards as a SR. Are defenses more advanced in college.?
OF COURSE.

But Bryce Young and Tua had to play against those same type of defenses. Especially Bryce in college didn’t have the supporting cast that Tua had…or Nico imo 🫤. (Bru, Thornton, Brazzell, Davis, Sampson, we have legit weapons)

So wtf happened?
I’m saying Nico was equally as advanced as both of those guys coming out of HS.
So what’s going on???

Halzle…
I watch him coach Nico and he’s always talking to him after every rep. There’s a such thing as over coaching.

Nico’s instincts and feel are not there anymore. That’s what made him great.

Nico is 2nd guessing every read he sees and never throws it. So then he focuses on one dude determined to feed him and the defense reads his eyes…PICK.
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LV, you have put some thought into this post and make some good points. My thoughts are that compared to the competition he played in HS, the talent around him was high as well.

I think it’s just that the WR’s he has around him aren’t better than the defense he’s up against.
 
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A senior? Doubt it. He may not be as much of a lock to be drafted as a redshirt sophomore (though it’s still highly possibly, Nico will explode, it’s a matter of when not if) but he’s not playing as far into the future as 27.
 
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vols 30 said:
That's also not a stretch. Most people believed Kamara would be a good pro
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He went in the 3rd round for a reason. And I didn't just say he'd be a good pro. I rated Alvin as the #1 RB in the 2017 draft ahead of Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, and Christian McCaffery. Nobody else was saying that.

I was higher on Alvin going into that draft than anybody else. Most people thought Fournette or Cook was the best RB in that class.
 
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I wonder how much was spent trying to get into the playoffs that so far has produced nada. Invested in Heard, Campbell, and Nico. I still remain hopeful but not expectant.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
As much as I hate it Nico just ain't that good YET. It's going to take a while based on what I saw at the game last night. I'm not going to regurgitate everything that's already (I'm sure) been posted on this board.

Here's my issue with it and why I had higher expectations.
1. 8 million dollar top shelf QB recruit
2. A supposed "quarterback whisperer" as a head coach

We aren't talking about a 5th year transfer like Milton. I never had high hopes for that guy. This was supposed to be special with Nico. The perfect storm of a highly converted QB and a coach that was a former QB and is supposed to be a guru with themand keeps QB1 he will go to NFL when draft eligible

Anyway there's no way Nico goes pro early. He needs way more work. He can get there I'm sure but I expected him to not look like Milton 2.0 ever in his career.

That's all I'll say in it. Bring on Bama.
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I disagree he will either get it and go to NFL or get beat out by McIntyre or one of the highly touted QBs coming in. If he gets it going, he will go to NFL when draft eligible if he gets beat out look for him to portal. Never be a UT senior either way.
 
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