NIL, Tennessee and Spyre Sports

[Maxwell865]

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit. #91 is our transfer portal ranking. That doesn’t not equate to our being behind when it comes to NIL. You are using conjecture to try and strengthen your weak azz argument. You continue to show stupidity. You are assuming that the only reason a team gets a transfer player is because of NIL which is baseless and dumb.

Honestly the portal ranking shows that our NIL is working.... 3 out of 4 transfers are Walk On's who could have gotten D1 scholarships elsewhere, but chose to come here anyway. People don't throw away free scholarship money unless they are getting something in return.

On another note, come June our portal ranking will be top 25... Book It

 

[MontyPython]

Hey idiot take guy, ever heard of roster restrictions because of Pruitt?

Well aware of potential self-imposed roster restrictions. Truth is, such restrictions are moot. What you fail to understand is that booster groups can effectively recruit and pay players with NIL deals EXCLUSIVELY.

There is no prohibition of NIL potentially circumventing scholarship cap restrictions by the NCAA, because they already got their a$$ whooped in court (thereby allowing NIL to happen in the first place), and it's legally impermissible for them to restrict players on what they can earn OUTSIDE OF THE DE FACTO SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

Thus, a player can have a NIL deal and NOT have a scholarship. Ergo, NIL deals can allow a school to circumvent the current scholarship cap (85 players) altogether.

Money is money. Doesn't matter *how* a player is compensated (scholarship v. NIL deal), it only matters that a player *is* compensated.

Gears turning in your head yet? Hope so.

Tennessee either doesn't have their NIL ducks in a row (likely), is being very conservative and a 'slow-adaptor' with NIL deals (possible) or is just simply losing battles with schools like UTjr for guys like Neyor (who likely will receive NIL $).

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Honestly the portal ranking shows that our NIL is working.... 3 out of 4 transfers are Walk On's who could have gotten D1 scholarships elsewhere, but chose to come here anyway. People don't throw away free scholarship money unless they are getting something in return.

On another note, come June our portal ranking will be top 25... Book It

Agree but that’s also small potatoes. Telling local kids to stay home and we’ll pay for your college isn’t a tough sell.

Likewise, losing Neyor to his home school isn’t an indicator our NIL isn’t working.

IMO the fact we convinced Hooker, in a bad QB draft, and Tillman to both stay is a solid indicator our NIL is effective.

I believe our roster restrictions more than anything have handicapped us greatly this offseason.

 

[volbeast33]

Well aware of potential self-imposed roster restrictions. Truth is, such restrictions are moot. What you fail to understand is that booster groups can effectively recruit and pay players with NIL deals EXCLUSIVELY.

There is no prohibition of NIL potentially circumventing scholarship cap restrictions by the NCAA, because they already got their a$$ whooped in court (thereby allowing NIL to happen in the first place), and it's legally impermissible for them to restrict players on what they can earn OUTSIDE OF THE DE FACTO SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

Thus, a player can have a NIL deal and NOT have a scholarship. Ergo, NIL deals can allow a school to circumvent the current scholarship cap (85 players) altogether.

Money is money. Doesn't matter *how* a player is compensated (scholarship v. NIL deal), it only matters that a player *is* compensated.

Gears turning in your head yet? Hope so.

Tennessee either doesn't have their NIL ducks in a row (likely), is being very conservative and a 'slow-adaptor' with NIL deals (possible) or is just simply losing battles with schools like UTjr for guys like Neyor (who likely will receive NIL $).

I would rather put our money into high school recruits…… The fact that we haven’t seen a single person transfer without getting a scholarship at his new school probably means that route is not as easy as you think it is.

 

[JacketVol]

Well aware of potential self-imposed roster restrictions. Truth is, such restrictions are moot. What you fail to understand is that booster groups can effectively recruit and pay players with NIL deals EXCLUSIVELY.

There is no prohibition of NIL potentially circumventing scholarship cap restrictions by the NCAA, because they already got their a$$ whooped in court (thereby allowing NIL to happen in the first place), and it's legally impermissible for them to restrict players on what they can earn OUTSIDE OF THE DE FACTO SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

Thus, a player can have a NIL deal and NOT have a scholarship. Ergo, NIL deals can allow a school to circumvent the current scholarship cap (85 players) altogether.

Money is money. Doesn't matter *how* a player is compensated (scholarship v. NIL deal), it only matters that a player *is* compensated.

Gears turning in your head yet? Hope so.

Tennessee either doesn't have their NIL ducks in a row (likely), is being very conservative and a 'slow-adaptor' with NIL deals (possible) or is just simply losing battles with schools like UTjr for guys like Neyor (who likely will receive NIL $).

I know more about what’s actually going on than you will ever hope to know. Our NIL is not number 1 but we will be fine.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

I know more about what’s actually going on than you will ever hope to know. Our NIL is not number 1 but we will be fine.

Can I have your autograph?

 

[MontyPython]

I know more about what’s actually going on than you will ever hope to know. Our NIL is not number 1 but we will be fine.

Perfect. Tell us all about what's "actually going on" then.

 

[Rizzo924]

I'd like to contribute & did make a one-time, small donation but have not received any emails from them. Their website isn't great - click-thrus don't work. I've seen comments on here about MOD and the 1951 club but information is not available.

 

[chargervol]

This is the quote I was referring to. It seems to imply that around the early part of the 2021 season they wanted to try and raise (future tense) $3-5 million. What were they doing before that? This began in July, right? And again, I mention the increased publicity of it. Maybe we just didn't know what they were doing, but publicizing the activities of this organization makes me more comfortable with where we are and where we are going.

I fully agree on this part. If their initial goal/projection of 3-5 had been the actual outcome, that wouldn't have cut it in the SEC. Doubt that would hit lower, mid tier.

Guessing Spyre is on the up and up (and like many fans that always rolled their eyes about "bagmen") possibly wasn't considering the amount of that was already trading hands.
Heck, I was skeptical UT would be so organized but even I never thought it would top out as low as the 4 mil neighborhood. Tbh though, thrilled they've exceeded my expectations.

 

[Devo182]

I'd like to contribute & did make a one-time, small donation but have not received any emails from them. Their website isn't great - click-thrus don't work. I've seen comments on here about MOD and the 1951 club but information is not available.

They've said they are working on the website and know it's not the best.

Fwiw I don't think I got anything initially either - just a receipt from PayPal. But I did get a Spyre update newsletter. You should start receiving those.

 

[BigorangeBoy]

The Web Site should have significant updates in 10-14 days according to one of the company officers.

 

[BigSteve09]

i reached out to them about getting an nil deal for being a superfan and they are going to explore a beta program with a few fans like me. i'm getting $1,000 for every post that i make on volnation, and $500 for every like that my posts receive

 

[Rizzo924]

They've said they are working on the website and know it's not the best.

Fwiw I don't think I got anything initially either - just a receipt from PayPal. But I did get a Spyre update newsletter. You should start receiving those.

Thanks. After posting this I went to IG and commented on one of their posts. I did get a fairly quick response saying they were working to fix the website. Dang! Imagine UT NIL when all the poor people's $ comes rolling in!

 

[DarthVol1]

Well aware of potential self-imposed roster restrictions. Truth is, such restrictions are moot. What you fail to understand is that booster groups can effectively recruit and pay players with NIL deals EXCLUSIVELY.

There is no prohibition of NIL potentially circumventing scholarship cap restrictions by the NCAA, because they already got their a$$ whooped in court (thereby allowing NIL to happen in the first place), and it's legally impermissible for them to restrict players on what they can earn OUTSIDE OF THE DE FACTO SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

Thus, a player can have a NIL deal and NOT have a scholarship. Ergo, NIL deals can allow a school to circumvent the current scholarship cap (85 players) altogether.

Money is money. Doesn't matter *how* a player is compensated (scholarship v. NIL deal), it only matters that a player *is* compensated.

Gears turning in your head yet? Hope so.

Tennessee either doesn't have their NIL ducks in a row (likely), is being very conservative and a 'slow-adaptor' with NIL deals (possible) or is just simply losing battles with schools like UTjr for guys like Neyor (who likely will receive NIL $).

You got a list of transfers at other schools where this has been done?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Idiots gon idiot..

 

[Mr French]

Idiots gon idiot..

Idjits gon idjit*

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Idjits gon idjit*

They don't deserve the RF term "idjit"..that's a term of endearment reserved for regular ol RF knuckleheads..not actual idiots.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Perfect. Tell us all about what's "actually going on" then.

Obviously you know more than anyone. Your conjecture has been on full display. Keep it up.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

Monty down bad

 

[MontyPython]

Obviously you know more than anyone. Your conjecture has been on full display. Keep it up.

 

[Jackcrevol]

They don't deserve the RF term "idjit"..that's a term of endearment reserved for regular ol RF knuckleheads..not actual idiots.

Ulysees done shouted 'idjit' from top of Mt Moran.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Ulysees done shouted 'idjit' from top of Mt Moran.

There's a statue of @Ulysees E. McGill on top of mount Moran. I've been told there's an annual pilgrimage there. I think that's where the @Freak yearly BBQ is held for the mentally impared RF posters that don't clear their notifications.

 

[Volfansince1980]

I fully agree on this part. If their initial goal/projection of 3-5 had been the actual outcome, that wouldn't have cut it in the SEC. Doubt that would hit lower, mid tier.

Guessing Spyre is on the up and up (and like many fans that always rolled their eyes about "bagmen") possibly wasn't considering the amount of that was already trading hands.
Heck, I was skeptical UT would be so organized but even I never thought it would top out as low as the 4 mil neighborhood. Tbh though, thrilled they've exceeded my expectations.

The donors will just move their money to Sprye when the attention is off of us and it will be business as usual. Sprye is the new bagman

 

[T2P_Priceless]

The donors will just move their money to Sprye when the attention is off of us and it will be business as usual. Sprye is the new bagman

The donors have already moved some if not most of their money to Spyre

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Well aware of potential self-imposed roster restrictions. Truth is, such restrictions are moot. What you fail to understand is that booster groups can effectively recruit and pay players with NIL deals EXCLUSIVELY.

There is no prohibition of NIL potentially circumventing scholarship cap restrictions by the NCAA, because they already got their a$$ whooped in court (thereby allowing NIL to happen in the first place), and it's legally impermissible for them to restrict players on what they can earn OUTSIDE OF THE DE FACTO SCHOOL STRUCTURE.

Thus, a player can have a NIL deal and NOT have a scholarship. Ergo, NIL deals can allow a school to circumvent the current scholarship cap (85 players) altogether.

Money is money. Doesn't matter *how* a player is compensated (scholarship v. NIL deal), it only matters that a player *is* compensated.

Gears turning in your head yet? Hope so.

Tennessee either doesn't have their NIL ducks in a row (likely), is being very conservative and a 'slow-adaptor' with NIL deals (possible) or is just simply losing battles with schools like UTjr for guys like Neyor (who likely will receive NIL $).