Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2024-25

[chuckiepoo]

Naw that’s just you.

In the game thread? Plenty of conspiracy theorists up in there. I just wish we could get an equitably officiated game. Bad calls against both teams? I could live with that and generally am able to see it, to some degree, in most games. A favorable whistle Monday night?


…I’ll allow it.

 

[krichunaka]

I'm so over the ref whining in every single game, ours and others. I thought the refs had one of their better games in this one and had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome. It's possible for one team to have a big edge in free throws and it still be correctly called.

SCs 11 blocks and 22 pts off turnovers, 31-2 bench pt advantage, plus higher fg % had alot more to do with it.

If I thought games were as highly "rigged" as some others seem to think I wouldn't watch. It's why I don't watch wrestling.

WHAT!? You don't watch wrestling, yet you expect to be taken seriously!?

I hope this doesn't read as a poorly disguised rebuttal, but, like you and everyone here, I have watched a lot of basketball games. But, unlike you and probably everyone here, I don't so much watch strategically. I don't "read" defenses and so on. I don't coach from the couch. And, I try to not make officials the issue. They make a lot of bad calls, and sometimes worse, they make a lot of No calls. As we like to say, they "let 'em play." But, are they consistent on both ends of the court? Do they "choose sides?" Generally speaking, No. And, there are three officials involved, after all, so that alone makes for an unlikely conspiracy.

All this to say, I agree with you that, generally speaking, cheating is not a problem. And, "rigging," which would involve one or more officials (and likely a very influential "outside" source), is another thing altogether. So, "cheating," by definition, is intentional. It almost never happens.

Almost.

OTOH, you're no doubt aware that officials have actually done time in prison for their misadventures. They have, indeed, admitted to cheating. Something about money (And, keeping their children alive); so, again, a whole different subject, from a whole different world. So, NO, I do not think that officials cheat.

However, they have tendencies, be they from bias or otherwise. Let's use Vanderbilt: We all know enough about the game to understand that leaving shooters open, throwing the ball to the other team, failing to box out, etc., will lose more games than a missed call by the official. We lost that game through our performance. But, we also know that the Vanderbilt guards extended, and even pushed off time and time again. A couple calls to correct that one obvious behavior would likely, literally have changed the outcome.

Texas? They're good to very good. And we played quite well. We were probably the most-consistent, for four quarters of all our games to date. We lost due to the occasional lack of focus, and several missed assignments. But again, they spent a lot of time in the paint, and appeared from my point of view, to play with reckless abandon. These things will occur at the official's discretion.

So, no, I do not believe that officiating has (intentionally) cost us a single loss; especially with so many things we didn't do right, or the many things we did wrong, or failed to do altogether. But, I believe that the "way" a game is officiated can, and often does affect the outcome.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

In the game thread? Plenty of conspiracy theorists up in there. I just wish we could get an equitably officiated game. Bad calls against both teams? I could live with that and generally am able to see it to some degree in most games. A favorable whistle Monday night?


…I’ll allow it.

If you’re playing the Lady Vols you (meaning the opponent and the referees) better be ready!
GBO ‘solid’!

 

[Rooster1]

Don’t believe I got in on that previous discussion. Someone else was the admonisher Didnt like seeing the same dig twice though

Wasn’t a dig, but I already said that.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Wasn’t a dig, but I already said that.

Great win for Sakerlina. I only got to see the second half. As stated above by @lvocd, really glad we won’t be facing a team licking their wounds from a close loss.

 

[Lucy]

Refs, who are still human I believe, definitely have some unconscious bias which does favor the better teams and coaches. They just believe those players can do things without fouling that others can't do. That influences a few calls. Also I've said often refs in general are struggling to keep up with a much faster game with much bigger, stronger players.

It's the conspiracy theories I'm sick of, both in sports and in life. Just sick to death of them. In this life, there simply are no secrets. Think about how many people would have to be in on a conspiracy to job the Vols, or any particular team. And no one, not one, wants to be the guy to blow the whistle, write the book, do the talk show circuit for calling it out? If more than one person knows about a "conspiracy" it's over. Quit attributing to ill will what is easily caused by incompetence.

Agreed. Gonna add that I believe the refs see a player commit a foul and then throughout the game they are inclined to watch and see if the player repeats the foul. Not saying intentional bias just “oh, this kid goes over the back or this kid sets moving screens”. So they are prepared to see that happen again.

 

[VolBalls33]

Kansas State loses as a 12.5 favorite on the road to Colorado. Not a top 20 team without Lee.

 

[superfly]

Don’t believe I got in on that previous discussion. Someone else was the admonisher Didnt like seeing the same dig twice though

It wasn't a dig...I wanted to know when the last time the Lady Vols sold out a game. I was expecting it to be UCONN and I imagine the game with us has grown to that level. If the arena has never been sold out for a WBB game then just say that. Geez....people are so sensitive for no good reason.

 

[RespectAPA]

I believe they will win both games. This LV team can beat any team in WBB.

It all depends. Ar we going to play our system for 40 minutes? When we play our system, we're equals with UConn, LSU, and South Carolina. When we don't play our system and its double-team full court press (scared of the opponent working into easy 2s, not considering the times that those passes become steals, missed 2s, or dead ball turnovers) we're equals with Florida State and Vanderbilt. The latter team will get beat twice. Likely double digit losses in both. The former team could win twice, but I can settle with 1 out of 2 against top 5 teams.

 

[superfly]

Men's games sellout almost everygame. Women not going to happen. I expect on a Monday maybe 14000 for the SC game. We'll get it on up there when they start winning more of the big games.

Thank you for a legit reply.

 

[Poultrygeist]

After Monday night SC's toughest conference game will be at Texas. SC has the head to head win against LSU and that's huge. An away game at Vanderbilt does not seem imposing nor is Ky at our place. The LV's always play SC tough and they're due and that's why this game worries most gamecock fans. If your team puts it all together our ladies could be in trouble.

 

[superfly]

After Monday night SC's toughest conference game will be at Texas. SC has the head to head win against LSU and that's huge. An away game at Vanderbilt does not seem imposing nor is Ky at our place. The LV's always play SC tough and they're due and that's why this game worries most gamecock fans. If your team puts it all together our ladies could be in trouble.

This will be "the" game that I feared from the start. Tennessee takes our success personally as they should. We are what they were under Pat (I know you had 8 national titles to our 3). This is the type of game that could get out of control early for us. If that happens this will not be a team that will allow us back into the game. Tennessee has proven themselves as a quality opponent who can do some real damage. I got fingers crossed....

 

[gule]

just try and keep it to a < 30 point win, will ya? thanks in advance.

 

[VolBall09]

Kansas State loses as a 12.5 favorite on the road to Colorado. Not a top 20 team without Lee.

Nope which is interesting. She’s not having the kind of year she has had in the past. She draws so much attention when she’s on the floor though.

 

[glv98]

Bama/Vandy SEC network @ 2
Duke/GA Tech ACC network @ 2
UCLA/Maryland NBC @ 2
Texas/Ole Miss ESPN @ 3
Texas A&M/LSU SEC network @4

And of course, football on the other screen.

We need Bama and Ole Miss to take a loss. Texas A & M could also do us an expected solid today but not holding our breath.

 

[glv98]

Holy Cow now Maryland has lost Shyanne Sellers for their game with UCLA today. That is a team completely decimated by injury.

 

[volforlife10]

florida state and NC is a good game rn. both teams are shooting pretty good. florida state is making NC play really fast.

 

[volforlife10]

a player like timpson for fl state would be so good in our system.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

Playing Alyssa Latham the minutes that Timpson plays at Florida St. in our system would be better.
I don’t see how Timpson would make any difference here playing less minutes.

 

[volforlife10]

Playing Alyssa Latham the minutes that Timpson plays at Florida St. in our system would be better.
I don’t see how Timpson would make any difference here playing less minutes.

timpson has better fundamentals which could come with time for latham. rn, she does not demand the ball or rebound as well as timpson. timpson knows where to be to get rebounds.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

timpson has better fundamentals which could come with time for latham. rn, she does not demand the ball or rebound as well as timpson. timpson knows where to be to get rebounds.

I wouldn’t say she has better fundamentals. Again, wouldn’t matter in the system because majority of the time Latham, Spearman, Timpson or whoever as the post would be standing around the 3pt line not in the paint.
I saw Timpson play head to head against Latham off the bench in this year’s UT vs Florida St. game.
You’re comparing 30 plus minutes to 10-15 mins.
I saw what I needed to see as far as this discussion goes. You can pretend that Timpson would look the same in the system if you like but unless adjustments were made to feature a post player which I’m sure wouldn’t be because they haven’t been made as of now it’s irrelevant.

 

[VolBall09]

a player like timpson for fl state would be so good in our system.

Pierre from Vandy…hate Vandy but she would look good in Orange.

 

[Rickster]

For those that are fans of Tiffany Bird or the son of Enterline, they are calling the North Carolina/ Florida State game on the ACCN.

 

[volforlife10]

Pierre from Vandy…hate Vandy but she would look good in Orange.

so true

 

[Rickster]

Striplin started for Indiana and was their leading scorer tonight in a loss to Oregon. Looks like Indiana might not make the tournament.

We are all a product of our decisions. I believe Karo would have done well in Kim’s system. She loved the three and we could have used her toughness under the basket. I wish her the best but wish she had not left.