Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2024-25

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Rooster1 said:
Not true. It is correct no WBB turns a profit, however, in the SEC the cost of nonrevenue sports is paid entirely from the AD budgets. That is why FB is so important to power 5 schools, it has gotten them into conferences where they generate the revenue needed to cover their budgets for athletics. Now if a school in a power 5 conference chooses to spend more than they make that's on them.

SEC schools do not go to their State legislatures with hat in hand asking the taxpayers to subsidize their sport programs. They do sometimes have State University municipal bonds issued for large projects like stadiums, arenas etc., but that is not a subsidy, it is a debt incurred which the AD must pay back with interest from their AD revenues.

Schools not in large high revenue conferences don't have the luxury of athletic departments that pay their own way. I can understand you not being aware of this. In the SEC and B1G for example, member schools total expenditures are almost always right at or within 1% of total revenue taken it. Its called a budget and most know how to follow one. Some schools like UCONN, only take in around half the revenue of what they spend. I believe UCONN in 2019 (not using 2020 covid #'s) took in about 46% of their expenses, leaving the state and students to foot the rest of the bill. That is not sustainable.

How SEC athletic departments ranked in total revenue for 2018-19 fiscal year (savannahnow.com)
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I would be surprised if there isn’t a few woman’s bb programs paying their own way. I know, believe, Tenn. Did for years, may still, but doubt it. S. Carolina, UConn. Got to be a few others.
 
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Tennessee had a 40 million dollar surplus for the years 2016, 2017, 2018 all together or about 13 plus million a season then that dropped to less than a million 800 grand in 2019. I think this past season was around a 5 million loss but still over the last five years the surplus has been around 35 million dollars. Tennessee used to make around a million dollars off women's basketball but in the last three or four years there have been losses around the 1.5 million to 2 million mark. The numbers should rebound if full attendance returns to Tennessee football as 90,000 to over 100,000 crowds are huge revenue boosters. Also this new sharing program started by AD White has been successful in raising donations. For women's basketball doubt they will make a profit anytime soon even if there is a large increase in attendance. I think everyone would be extremely happy if they get to the break even mark. Overall if the school can get back to making a surplus of 13 million a season everything will be fine.
 
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NeedOrange said:
No women's basketball program makes a profit so in all state schools the taxes pay for women's basketball.
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This is what you said. You said “in all state schools the taxes pay for women’s basketball.”
That is blatantly false. It’s why I took the time to educate you.
 
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Rooster1 said:
This is what you said. You said “in all state schools the taxes pay for women’s basketball.”
That is blatantly false. It’s why I took the time to educate you.
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Conference realignment is happening and many UConn WBB fans have been downplaying their university's athletic financial programs woes in hopes to possibly be invited to a P5 conference.
 
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brassie said:
I'm not sure what all of this has to do with the opportunity that NIL has given to allow young women to profit from their ability. Bueckers is in the photo posted, but I'm sure there are others. Instead of applauding the moment, the thread devolves into an irrelevant UConn hate fest. Remember, that NIL opportunity would also apply to a Lady Vol player - assuming they can land an elite recruit.
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This thread is called "Non-Lady Vols Basketball News." If you don't want to read or discuss how UConn funds their team - which is of interest to me and isn't hate speech by anyone's measure - then ignore it and move on. If you want an NIL thread, then start one of your own.
 
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Glad we won mainly because of Durant who played at an amazing level in the Olympics. The team we sent would be no more than a .500 team in the NBA still good enough to compete with World teams. If we sent our overall best players were still 25 to 30 points better than anybody else.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Glad we won mainly because of Durant who played at an amazing level in the Olympics. The team we sent would be no more than a .500 team in the NBA still good enough to compete with World teams. If we sent our overall best players were still 25 to 30 points better than anybody else.
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Agreed.
 
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As Soon as they lost to Nigerian stupid Stevens A Smith started insulting both coach, pop players & Nigerian
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Glad we won mainly because of Durant who played at an amazing level in the Olympics. The team we sent would be no more than a .500 team in the NBA still good enough to compete with World teams. If we sent our overall best players were still 25 to 30 points better than anybody else.
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Hyperbole.
Could they have formed a better team ?
Yes.
Would the team chosen finish at .500 in the NBA ?
No, not even close. They would be way over .500.
There were five 2021 NBA All Stars on this Olympic team.
Durant, Tatum, Lillard, LaVine and
Booker were All Stars this year.
Throw in Green and Holiday, their two best defensive players, along with Adebayo, McGee, Johnson. Middleton and Grant and you have a very good NBA team.
 
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volnationnj said:
Hyperbole.
Could they have formed a better team ?
Yes.
Would the team chosen finish at .500 in the NBA ?
No, not even close. They would be way over .500.
There were five 2021 NBA All Stars on this Olympic team.
Durant, Tatum, Lillard, LaVine and
Booker were All Stars this year.
Throw in Green and Holiday, their two best defensive players, along with Adebayo, McGee, Johnson. Middleton and Grant and you have a very good NBA team.
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I totally disagree that they would be way over .500 in the NBA. Certainly not a team that could win an NBA title way to many teams much more talented than this team. Team was weak on the inside if not for Durant being on the team they do not win a medal.
 
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volnationnj said:
Hyperbole.
Could they have formed a better team ?
Yes.
Would the team chosen finish at .500 in the NBA ?
No, not even close. They would be way over .500.
There were five 2021 NBA All Stars on this Olympic team.
Durant, Tatum, Lillard, LaVine and
Booker were All Stars this year.
Throw in Green and Holiday, their two best defensive players, along with Adebayo, McGee, Johnson. Middleton and Grant and you have a very good NBA team.
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This team would be a top 3 team in either conference. This team wouldn't exist in the NBA anyway because the salaries wouldn't fit.

youcancallmeAl said:
Who besides you cares how the NBA fares? Chairman Xi?
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Nice deflection.
 
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volnationnj said:
We did win but it was, somehow, not satisfying, at least for me.
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I don't know why. It was a likable group of players that didn't have to be there after plenty of others said no. Some of them literally flew to Tokyo right after an exhausting NBA championship series to join the team for the first time. They played hard, winning the gold was clearly important to them, and they had to beat a very good French team they previously lost to in order to win it. As a pure basketball fan, if you can't find joy or satisfaction in watching Kevin Durant play, I don't know what to tell you...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I don't know why. It was a likable group of players that didn't have to be there after plenty of others said no. Some of them literally flew to Tokyo right after an exhausting NBA championship series to join the team for the first time. They played hard, winning the gold was clearly important to them, and they had to beat a very good French team they previously lost to in order to win it. As a pure basketball fan, if you can't find joy or satisfaction in watching Kevin Durant play, I don't know what to tell you...
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KD was the bright spot for me too (with Tatum and Green following. Green's brilliant "block" of the free throw with a minute left was a highlight).
Maybe my expectations were too high for this group. To watch them struggle down the stretch (turnovers, missed free throws) was disconcerting. As I said, maybe I was expecting too much.
 
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