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Who’s struggling to get on the court at this time. She wasn’t #11 when she committed so that’s misleading, the Tennessee brand helped the number move. ESPN had her at 49.

🤔 ... I dunno if it was the TN brand (which would still mean that TN means something in the world of womens basketall which we all knew but some deny) or that she actually moved to a Nike based AAU company OR the young lady was just underranked and got better. Maybe all they are all true.

But i won't say it's just TN because 1. she was the MVP of a prestigious Nike summer tournament and 2. she made the USA team (heck we've seen them cut people with TN ties multiple times). That would be actually denying the work the young lady put in to get what she has.

Also what can be true is being happy for Ace and her being able to do what she is doing at Pitt while being glad we got justine. Being happy for an area kid is never a bad thing. In reversal situations Ace may not be showing enough against our players or the competition we've played while Justine may get on the court and have those same numbers at Pitt.
 
Easy to see if your not a biased SC fan. They have Reese back, Flague Johnson, Smith who is a fabulous freshman, Williams, Barlett, Poole, and Last Tear- Poa. They add the number two player in the country which I've seen play and may very well be the number one player. Del Rosario, Velez, and Kent. Certainly easy to that can match SC who is losing seven seniors. Yes SC roster will be as good but not better and will not have the senior presence that it has this year. A starting lineup of Reese, Smith, Johnson, Williams, and Poa matches anybody as a starting five. I'm not an LSU fan but I can easily see how they will have a loaded lineup next season just like SC.

How will they be younger than SC. SC will have one Senior next year and a junior then a load of sophomores and freshmen.

That's assuming players that have the covid year don't take the covid year. players like beal, cook, and Amihere can stay i believe which would provide senior leadership. We all know Boston is most likely gone but she could stay as well. People take about Paige making more money in college than going pro so she may exhaust all her eligibility even though she can still leave with playing eligibility left. Well, Boston has come across some big NIL endorsements also so i wonder if that plays into her decision or "running it back" with teammates if their season doesn't go as planned.
 
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That's assuming players that have the covid year don't take the covid year. players like beal, cook, and Amihere can stay i believe which would provide senior leadership. We all know Boston is most likely gone but she could stay as well. People take about Paige making more money in college than going pro so she may exhaust all her eligibility even though she can still leave with playing eligibility left. Well, Boston has come across some big NIL endorsements also so i wonder if that plays into her decision or "running it back" with teammates if their season doesn't go as planned.
Totally true 100 percent if any of their top six come back it would certainly change the situation. They have the much better roster this year losing those seniors changes that quite a bit. If they don't lose them of course still the powerhouse they are now. They will certainly still be one of the best rosters without them but there will be some that are equal.
 
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🤔 ... I dunno if it was the TN brand (which would still mean that TN means something in the world of womens basketall which we all knew but some deny) or that she actually moved to a Nike based AAU company OR the young lady was just underranked and got better. Maybe all they are all true.

But i won't say it's just TN because 1. she was the MVP of a prestigious Nike summer tournament and 2. she made the USA team (heck we've seen them cut people with TN ties multiple times). That would be actually denying the work the young lady put in to get what she has.

Also what can be true is being happy for Ace and her being able to do what she is doing at Pitt while being glad we got justine. Being happy for an area kid is never a bad thing. In reversal situations Ace may not be showing enough against our players or the competition we've played while Justine may get on the court and have those same numbers at Pitt.
agree with the last part wholeheartedly. But you make sure you take care of your backyard before they leave and get on stat sheets as a Freshman.
 
Where was Ace ranked at the time?

And you're ignoring the point that there is no comparison between their respective schedules or rosters.

Do you not think that if their situations were reversed, Justine would likely be seeing much more time than she is against so many ranked opponents?
not ignoring anything. Are we on we trust rankings or do we trust evaluations by the coaches? KH saw her play, watched her camp, saw other schools recruit her and watched her leave. If you can play, you can play. Just looking like early, she got this one wrong not by taking Justine, but by letting Ace leave. Could of had both
 
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🤔 ... I dunno if it was the TN brand (which would still mean that TN means something in the world of womens basketall which we all knew but some deny) or that she actually moved to a Nike based AAU company OR the young lady was just underranked and got better. Maybe all they are all true.

But i won't say it's just TN because 1. she was the MVP of a prestigious Nike summer tournament and 2. she made the USA team (heck we've seen them cut people with TN ties multiple times). That would be actually denying the work the young lady put in to get what she has.

Also what can be true is being happy for Ace and her being able to do what she is doing at Pitt while being glad we got justine. Being happy for an area kid is never a bad thing. In reversal situations Ace may not be showing enough against our players or the competition we've played while Justine may get on the court and have those same numbers at Pitt.
What is Ace doing there that is so impressive I don't see it. 30 percent from the three, 35 percent overall and 43 percent from the free throw line. She is not doing anything that is impressive. Sure she is getting to play expect we have a lot of bench players that could play for Pittsburgh. They are headed for a huge losing season. I am happy for her, but it is not to this point that we lost a difference making player. I think not offer Moore McNeil is a lot larger mistake that we made in recruiting.
 
Who’s struggling to get on the court at this time. She wasn’t #11 when she committed so that’s misleading, the Tennessee brand helped the number move. ESPN had her at 49.

Her play got her to 11 not the Tennessee brand. Go look at her AAU film after her commitment. It’s common knowledge that Covid skewed a lot of those early rankings due to players having limited playing opportunities and illness. You can be happy for Ace without trying to bring Pissott down. Realistically Pissott would probably start at Pitt and Ace would have just as hard a time seeing the floor at a Tennessee if they were switched.
 
Top two teams in the Big Ten are Indiana and Ohio State. Right now Iowa is trailing badly as they are a really poor defensive team. ACC is going to be a big fight this year with a lot of teams beating each other. League Champion could have five league losses in that league this time. I would say it is a very even battle between Va Tech, NC St, NC, and Louisville. Duke, Notre Dame, and Florida State will be able to pull some upsets at home. Virginia looking a lot better as well they might pull an upset or two. That is going to be a great league to watch a lot of teams that could win that league this season. SEC looks to be easily a win for SC with Tennessee, LSU and Arkansas all capable of coming in second. Ole Miss is an ok team as is Florida. After that it looks like a bunch of teams that the top three should beat. Texas A&M lost to Kansas by 25 points so they look way down.

The Big 12 looks like another league that is wide open for three or four teams to win the title. Looks to me like Stanford should win the Pac 12 with Arizona and UCLA the next best two at least at the moment. Big East is a better league this year than it has been in a while UConn wins again but they will have some challenges on the road against a few of the teams this season.
 
Easy to see if your not a biased SC fan. They have Reese back, Flague Johnson, Smith who is a fabulous freshman, Williams, Barlett, Poole, and Last Tear- Poa. They add the number two player in the country which I've seen play and may very well be the number one player. Del Rosario, Velez, and Kent. Certainly easy to that can match SC who is losing seven seniors. Yes SC roster will be as good but not better and will not have the senior presence that it has this year. A starting lineup of Reese, Smith, Johnson, Williams, and Poa matches anybody as a starting five. I'm not an LSU fan but I can easily see how they will have a loaded lineup next season just like SC.

How will they be younger than SC. SC will have one Senior next year and a junior then a load of sophomores and freshmen.
Feagin, Hall and Johnson will be Juniors, that’s three, not one. Cardoso will be a Senior. Amihere has a year left after this year and may return. Watkins and Cooper will be sophomores.

Beal, Cooke and Boston could all return, but Boston and Cooke are expected to go pro.
 
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Her play got her to 11 not the Tennessee brand. Go look at her AAU film after her commitment. It’s common knowledge that Covid skewed a lot of those early rankings due to players having limited playing opportunities and illness. You can be happy for Ace without trying to bring Pissott down. Realistically Pissott would probably start at Pitt and Ace would have just as hard a time seeing the floor at a Tennessee if they were switched.

She was #49 when she committed not #11, that was stated by another poster that Justine was #11... it was a simple let's revisit that moment. This is not a Justine vs Ace. This is a recruiting issue by the staff letting a D1 player leave the same county you play in while struggling to get out of state kids "perceived as better" to come play. We can toss realistically and hypotheticals out all day long once you hit campus rankings don't matter, compete and get in the rotation.

So again, before this gets sideways....it's not a Justine vs. Ace. We all want Justine to take off.
 
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What is Ace doing there that is so impressive I don't see it. 30 percent from the three, 35 percent overall and 43 percent from the free throw line. She is not doing anything that is impressive. Sure she is getting to play expect we have a lot of bench players that could play for Pittsburgh. They are headed for a huge losing season. I am happy for her, but it is not to this point that we lost a difference making player. I think not offer Moore McNeil is a lot larger mistake that we made in recruiting.
16 min 5 pts off the bench through 8 games. We got 9 kids on our roster playing less mins and less stats. We can zig and zag on hypotheticals about players but stats and numbers don't lie. I would have to say Ace has a tougher challenge being that she is surrounded by so many bad players and has shown early signs of being a quality player at the next level. If someone is not impressed by that, what does it say about our bench players not doing the same?
 
Feagin, Hall and Johnson will be Juniors. Cardoso will be a Senior. Amihere has a year left after this year and may return. Watkins and Cooper will be sophomores.

Beal, Cooke and Boston could all return, but Boston and Cooke are expected to go pro.
I was assuming all the Seniors left and that was where I was getting the returning team to compare to who LSU will have returning and coming back. Of course if the seniors return SC has the far better roster if not then it is really close between the two. Cardoso, Feagin, Watkins against Reese, Smith, and Del Rosario. I can't see an advantage either way Smith is vying for freshman of the year with her play thus far. Then you have Hall and Johnson and a very good freshman class vs F. Johnson, Poole, Bartlett, and Poa and and a very good freshman class. I don't care for Mulkey or LSU but anyone saying they won't have a challenging roster next year isn't really thinking very clearly. Both have a chance to add portal players and SC has the better option of players returning for another season. That is where the difference could be made if players like Boston, Cooke, etc come back it is a no brainer they have the much better roster just like this year.
 
Top two teams in the Big Ten are Indiana and Ohio State. Right now Iowa is trailing badly as they are a really poor defensive team. ACC is going to be a big fight this year with a lot of teams beating each other. League Champion could have five league losses in that league this time. I would say it is a very even battle between Va Tech, NC St, NC, and Louisville. Duke, Notre Dame, and Florida State will be able to pull some upsets at home. Virginia looking a lot better as well they might pull an upset or two. That is going to be a great league to watch a lot of teams that could win that league this season. SEC looks to be easily a win for SC with Tennessee, LSU and Arkansas all capable of coming in second. Ole Miss is an ok team as is Florida. After that it looks like a bunch of teams that the top three should beat. Texas A&M lost to Kansas by 25 points so they look way down.

The Big 12 looks like another league that is wide open for three or four teams to win the title. Looks to me like Stanford should win the Pac 12 with Arizona and UCLA the next best two at least at the moment. Big East is a better league this year than it has been in a while UConn wins again but they will have some challenges on the road against a few of the teams this season.

I've watched Iowa three times this season. They beat you from outside and any team built on outside shooting will have off nights. Better to have a well rounded game. Same could be said for a team that only has an inside game and shoots below average.
 
I've watched Iowa three times this season. They beat you from outside and any team built on outside shooting will have off nights. Better to have a well rounded game.
Beyond her the talent is limited. A very good team but Indiana and Ohio State are better. If they want to compete for the league title find a way to stop somebody on the defensive end. Great that you can score 80 but if your giving up 90 your still losing.
 
What is Ace doing there that is so impressive I don't see it. 30 percent from the three, 35 percent overall and 43 percent from the free throw line. She is not doing anything that is impressive. Sure she is getting to play expect we have a lot of bench players that could play for Pittsburgh. They are headed for a huge losing season. I am happy for her, but it is not to this point that we lost a difference making player. I think not offer Moore McNeil is a lot larger mistake that we made in recruiting.

We have a few posters who would prefer we recruit local rather than globally regardless of the talent.
 
We have a few posters who would prefer we recruit local rather than globally regardless of the talent.
Globally isn't working out so well at the moment. Jumper wont like you taking a dig at his kid Hawk though. Not cool
 
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Easy to see if your not a biased SC fan. They have Reese back, Flague Johnson, Smith who is a fabulous freshman, Williams, Barlett, Poole, and Last Tear- Poa. They add the number two player in the country which I've seen play and may very well be the number one player. Del Rosario, Velez, and Kent. Certainly easy to that can match SC who is losing seven seniors. Yes SC roster will be as good but not better and will not have the senior presence that it has this year. A starting lineup of Reese, Smith, Johnson, Williams, and Poa matches anybody as a starting five. I'm not an LSU fan but I can easily see how they will have a loaded lineup next season just like SC.

How will they be younger than SC. SC will have one Senior next year and a junior then a load of sophomores and freshmen.

You need seniors to be good now? UCONN, Stanford, Indiana, North Carolina and other teams seem to be doing just fine in that regard. Also SC will have a Senior, 3 Juniors, 2 experienced Sophomores, and the freshman class. That’s balance of experience and youth. LSU doesn’t have that. I’ll give you Reese, Smith, Flau’Jae, and Poa. But Bartlett, Williams, and Poole? Lmaooo please bffr. They barely play and they’re playing HS teams right now, so what does that tell you? Kim is going to hit that portal hard and recruit over them. SC’s bench is already as good as LSU starting 5 this year and the Stanford game showed that. SC was down almost double digits first half with Boston on the bench and they came in and not only kept them in the game but brought them back to within 4 in a sold out environment. LSU struggled with freaking SLU!!!! Feagin and Watkins would take minutes from anyone of their bigs on their squad not named Reese, and they’re on SC’s bench waiting for their time.

I also see Williams as the only impact player in their supposedly “#1 class”. She’s legit but I’m not sold on Velez or Del Rosario especially after they let Ashlyn Shade kill them scoring 45 points and they couldn’t even combine for 40 themselves. Kent is good but she’s not even consensus top 50 player, she definitely seems a little underrated but I don’t see impact right away in year 1.

How are you so sure that starting 5 can match anyone in the country when they haven’t even played a team with a pulse this year? That’s non sense lol. There will be at least 10 teams around the country that has a starting 5 as good or significantly better than LSU next year.
 
You need seniors to be good now? UCONN, Stanford, Indiana, North Carolina and other teams seem to be doing just fine in that regard. Also SC will have a Senior, 3 Juniors, 2 experienced Sophomores, and the freshman class. That’s balance of experience and youth. LSU doesn’t have that. I’ll give you Reese, Smith, Flau’Jae, and Poa. But Bartlett, Williams, and Poole? Lmaooo please bffr. They barely play and they’re playing HS teams right now, so what does that tell you? Kim is going to hit that portal hard and recruit over them. SC’s bench is already as good as LSU starting 5 this year and the Stanford game showed that. SC was down almost double digits first half with Boston on the bench and they came in and not only kept them in the game but brought them back to within 4 in a sold out environment. LSU struggled with freaking SLU!!!! Feagin and Watkins would take minutes from anyone of their bigs on their squad not named Reese, and they’re on SC’s bench waiting for their time.

I also see Williams as the only impact player in their supposedly “#1 class”. She’s legit but I’m not sold on Velez or Del Rosario especially after they let Ashlyn Shade kill them scoring 45 points and they couldn’t even combine for 40 themselves. Kent is good but she’s not even consensus top 50 player, she definitely seems a little underrated but I don’t see impact right away in year 1.

How are you so sure that starting 5 can match anyone in the country when they haven’t even played a team with a pulse this year? That’s non sense lol. There will be at least 10 teams around the country that has a starting 5 as good or significantly better than LSU next year.
No you don't need seniors, but your totally acting like losing six top seniors will make you just as good next year as this year. Not a reality. Of course you can take that opinion doesn't make it true now or ever. Actually the team to actually worry about is UConn who has almost everybody back will get the two injured players back along with the number four class. I see them as the best roster in WCCB followed by Stanford, SC, and LSU all three not much difference. As far as what you see as impact player Del Rosario is not rated the number seven player for no reason. All she has to be is the third wheel with Reese and Smith and she could definitely fill that role.
Take those six seniors off the team and then play Stanford. Take them off and even play LSU quite a difference. Were not talking about this season were talking about next years rosters. No Feagin and Watkins would not take minutes from their bigs Reese is better than either one of those players right now and expect that will continue to be true next season as well. Smith is on par with either one as well.

You seem to be the most biased of the SC posters that post here. You can't even accept that LSU had the number one class.
 
You need seniors to be good now? UCONN, Stanford, Indiana, North Carolina and other teams seem to be doing just fine in that regard. Also SC will have a Senior, 3 Juniors, 2 experienced Sophomores, and the freshman class. That’s balance of experience and youth. LSU doesn’t have that. I’ll give you Reese, Smith, Flau’Jae, and Poa. But Bartlett, Williams, and Poole? Lmaooo please bffr. They barely play and they’re playing HS teams right now, so what does that tell you? Kim is going to hit that portal hard and recruit over them. SC’s bench is already as good as LSU starting 5 this year and the Stanford game showed that. SC was down almost double digits first half with Boston on the bench and they came in and not only kept them in the game but brought them back to within 4 in a sold out environment. LSU struggled with freaking SLU!!!! Feagin and Watkins would take minutes from anyone of their bigs on their squad not named Reese, and they’re on SC’s bench waiting for their time.

I also see Williams as the only impact player in their supposedly “#1 class”. She’s legit but I’m not sold on Velez or Del Rosario especially after they let Ashlyn Shade kill them scoring 45 points and they couldn’t even combine for 40 themselves. Kent is good but she’s not even consensus top 50 player, she definitely seems a little underrated but I don’t see impact right away in year 1.

How are you so sure that starting 5 can match anyone in the country when they haven’t even played a team with a pulse this year? That’s non sense lol. There will be at least 10 teams around the country that has a starting 5 as good or significantly better than LSU next year.
To add evidently your quite frightened that LSU is about to be a dominant force in the SEC as soon as next season. So am I. I don't like it but it definitely appears to be heading in that direction whether any of us like it or not.
 
Beyond her the talent is limited. A very good team but Indiana and Ohio State are better. If they want to compete for the league title find a way to stop somebody on the defensive end. Great that you can score 80 but if your giving up 90 your still losing.

Its why they got bounced out of the tourney so early last year And have three losses already this year. They don’t play defense, #284. Not much at rebounding either….#128. Their coach has zero control of what happens on the court, Clark decides everything, even when she will shoot from close to half court, which happens often.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-women/d1/current/team/1015
 
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16 min 5 pts off the bench through 8 games. We got 9 kids on our roster playing less mins and less stats. We can zig and zag on hypotheticals about players but stats and numbers don't lie. I would have to say Ace has a tougher challenge being that she is surrounded by so many bad players and has shown early signs of being a quality player at the next level. If someone is not impressed by that, what does it say about our bench players not doing the same?
Or we could just...not. Ace doesn't attend Tennessee, so what she does at Pitt only matters if you're suggesting she transfer here. Her stats suggest she is every bit of a freshman as anyone else.
 
Or we could just...not. Ace doesn't attend Tennessee, so what she does at Pitt only matters if you're suggesting she transfer here. Her stats suggest she is every bit of a freshman as anyone else.

the zig and zag was in regards to our bench players not playing here but somehow being able to play there by posters. Some needed the zig and got caught with a zag. Every bit of a freshman getting meaning playing time, not all Freshman are equal. Some get none, some are game changers and some play roles.
 
Who’s struggling to get on the court at this time. She wasn’t #11 when she committed so that’s misleading, the Tennessee brand helped the number move. ESPN had her at 49.
She also has a boatload of experience and incredible talent playing in front of her position. Whose minutes would you take away to put her on the court? Horstons or Jacksons, not to mention the other 3-4 players that have a lot of experience at her spot. 6-4 freshman don't learn defense at the college level overnight. She is the number 11 player in the country because of her performance on the AAU circuit and USA basketball not Tennessee's brand.
 

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