North Korea USA Summit

[Orange_Vol1321]

Trump meeting Kim is nothing more than pomp and only aids in legitimizing Kim. Trump being played by dictators has been an ongoing issue since he was elected.

Surprised to see you in the forum. Haven't seen you in your Mueller report thread in months. Lol

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

What could've been.

 

[Coug]

Say what?

What part of my comment was either in a foreign language to you or at all hard to understand?

Surprised to see you in the forum. Haven't seen you in your Mueller report thread in months. Lol

I'm surprised somebody missed me.

I'll make an appearance again before the big show later this month.

 

[Weezer]

Maybe we should invite him to the States and put him up in Trump Tower.

Or just rent him the Lincoln bedroom.

 

[Velo Vol]

Has he tested nukes since the second summit?

Is further testing necessary for them to continue building nuclear weapons?

 

[Mick]

Trump has accepted that NK is a Nuclear power and will settle for a freeze on building more. God I hope North Korea let's us inspect their sites to make sure they are in compliance, it would be a bad deal otherwise.

In New Talks, U.S. May Settle for a Nuclear Freeze by North Korea

 

[Orangeslice13]

We should do the same with Iran, also.

Completely different cultures.
They still wipe their asses with rocks in Iran. Not sure they’re capable of consistent manufacturing

 

[Purple Tiger]

Completely different cultures.
They still wipe their asses with rocks in Iran. Not sure they’re capable of consistent manufacturing

They have oil money. They can probably buy the best engineers and build anything they want.

 

[ajvol01]

Trump has accepted that NK is a Nuclear power and will settle for a freeze on building more. God I hope North Korea let's us inspect their sites to make sure they are in compliance, it would be a bad deal otherwise.

In New Talks, U.S. May Settle for a Nuclear Freeze by North Korea

Anonymous sources again.

Buried at the bottom of the article

On Sunday evening, the State Department’s envoy to North Korea, Stephen E. Biegun, said that this account of the ideas being generated in the administration was “pure speculation” and that his team was “not preparing any new proposal currently.”

“What is accurate is not new, and what is new is not accurate,” he said.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Completely different cultures.
They still wipe their asses with rocks in Iran. Not sure they’re capable of consistent manufacturing

Meh, Iranians are not like the Saudis.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Meh, Iranians are not like the Saudis.

The Saudis have indoor plumbing so no need for rocks.
Not that they’d be any better at manufacturing.

 

[Mick]

Anonymous sources again.

Buried at the bottom of the article

Honestly, that may be the best we can hope for at this point because NK is not going to denuke.

 

[ajvol01]

Honestly, that may be the best we can hope for at this point because NK is not going to denuke.

You’re trusting the same media that claimed Trump would start a nuclear war with North Korea.

Incredible.

 

[Septic]

You’re trusting the same media that claimed Trump would start a nuclear war with North Korea.

Incredible.

You trust an anonymous poster on 4-chan that's missed on "insider" knowledge time and time and time again.

Soo...

 

[BigOrangeD]

Trump has accepted that NK is a Nuclear power and will settle for a freeze on building more. God I hope North Korea let's us inspect their sites to make sure they are in compliance, it would be a bad deal otherwise.

In New Talks, U.S. May Settle for a Nuclear Freeze by North Korea

Article says may accept. Probably fake news though.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Trump Makes History, Steps Into North Korea, Gets Attacked by Leftists


Styxhexenhammer666

 

[lawgator1]

It would be an interesting dilemma if NK said it would agree to a freeze if we lifted sanctions.

NK is currently estimated to have 60 nuclear weapons. If they agree to stay at that level, and we lift sanctions so that the regime stays in power, I'm not sure whether that is a good or bad thing.

 

[rjd970]

Has he tested nukes since the second summit?

Not that we know about, and I would place a bet he doesn't stop, no matter what comes out of or is agreed to in this summit.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

It would be an interesting dilemma if NK said it would agree to a freeze if we lifted sanctions.

NK is currently estimated to have 60 nuclear weapons. If they agree to stay at that level, and we lift sanctions so that the regime stays in power, I'm not sure whether that is a good or bad thing.

Translation...

If Obama managed this outlook = Good

If Trump managed this outlook = Bad

 

[Septic]

Translation...

If Obama managed this outlook = Good

If Trump managed this outlook = Bad

Where did he invoke Obama? You know you're losing the argument when you have to invent a position to push over.

 

[lawgator1]

Translation...

If Obama managed this outlook = Good

If Trump managed this outlook = Bad

I did not say that, at all. I'm saying it is a difficult call.

On the one hand it may be the best we can hope for.

On the other it leaves them with 60 nukes.

The alternatives might be far worse.

 

[rjd970]

What we have been doing with Korea for the last 70 years seems to be working.

Working towards what? Peace? What is the goal? You think this will change a damn thing with peace talks, unification, or de-nuclearization? None of that will happen without a forceful regime change. I'm not suggesting that we do that, only that the single difference that could even conceivably happen now is we are legitimizing them. They want control of the pennisula and there isn't a chance in hades they will give up any nuclear weapons. Nothing that matters will move at all from this. I'm sorry, it is the height of naivety to think otherwise. This is all upside for them and downside for us.

The about face on the right when it comes to N. Korea is stunning, and I would bet even more if this were Obama the right would be raising absolute hell. They got bent out of shape when he bowed to another world leader, and now we have Trump literally holding lil Kim's hand. The hypocrisy here really is astonishing. Kim Jong Un is a despot, and the regime spits in the face of the international community and actively runs concentration camps while openly threatening the U.S. and South Korea. That will not change just because Trump wants to talk.

 

[rjd970]

Translation...

If Obama managed this outlook = Good

If Trump managed this outlook = Bad

It's bad. Nothing material changes from today, and N. Korea gets an international win.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Where did he invoke Obama? You know you're losing the argument when you have to invent a position to push over.

Go drink your prune juice.

 

[tennvols77]

Bring them into the new world and all they have to get rid of all nukes. We'll open a bunch of fast food joints and lazy-boy stores on our dime so that we get their people fat and lazy. Give 'em DirectTv free for a few years also and we'll never hear from these guys again. America!