Not to be the Fly in the Ointment

[knoxvols11]

Just looked at the time of the OP's post and if that is Eastern time there is not any sunshine to pump for about 7 more hours.

 

[Vol Revolver]

I'll take the ointment. I have this little rash that happens at this time of year.

Is it hooker season already? I better get some ointment as well.

 

[93AllvolSc]

It's never a dull moment here on the nation. I can just here the reverse of this argument as well, imagine if the series in question the OP wrote of went like this. Worley chunks three deep balls to North, Pig and then VP and all three are overthrown or dropped. Now we would be reading a piece about how the OC should be pounding the rock with Marlin and our 5star freshman rb. We were up 14 and the Defense was playing lights out, our punter was flipping the field, why not try and run the ball for a series. It failed and the Coaching staff adapted and we went on to a very impressive opening victory against a team that ESPN predicted we would lose to. I thought it was a great game, Neyland was rocking and the Vols looked good. GBO

 

[AdmiralVFL98]

Their fronts dictated our run game (or lack thereof)...that was probably the most exotic defense we will see all season long. Saw multiple times where they had 2 down linemen and would blitz a total of 6. Very creative.

Agree. I thought our inexperienced line did a pretty good job of blocking a complicated defensive front. Not to mention USU had 1 or 2 LBs with legitimate potential to play on Sunday. Worley also made good choices with the ball and even kept the ball a few times on the read option for some nice gains. All and all a great way to start the season!

 

[jimallvol]

I still don't think we've opened up the playbook very much. I don't expect us to on Saturday, either. We'll show as little as possible to get the W and throw the playbook at OU.

I agree. I think we will see alot more in wk 3 unless we get in a tight gm against Ark.st then we might see the offense open up a little more.

 

[livefaith]

I know it's been a while, but did anyone notice in the 98’ National Title game that we only converted one 3rd down the entire game. ONE! Play calling just real bad.

That team has a lot of improving to do!

 

[RollerVol]

First and foremost, overall we looked good as a team and the win was awesome as well as the crowd. Bottom line is we should have embarrassed them last night and run them out of our house. We put up a quick 14 points and laid an egg offensively from that point. Play calling went from decent to not good at all. The door should have been slammed on this team at the half and should have got the 2's and 3's some valuable live snaps with the continuation of the original game plan with those guys. Plus I would not have been near as nervous about our studs getting hurt. I truly believe, if we stay healthy and not lose our#1 guys, we can be right there with EVERY team on our schedule, primed to win. That being said, the play calling can't be 3 straight read options and punt or 2 swing passed and an incompletion and punt. Most important, it is a must to pick up every -and 1 yard to go at all cost, to be an efficient football team. Twice last night, we failed at it miserably against a lesser opponent. That can't happen and our play calling MUST be very good for us to successful this year with this team.

Truly, I'm not being negative, just thinking out loud. Either way, I'm behind Butch and company, was just a little concerned with the play calling last night. Your thoughts?

Enjoy the win. I know, and many more on here know, we're not there yet. We have to get another top 10 recruiting class and some more time to let "this" team play together to "gel". We'll get there...eventually.
GO VOLS!

 

[jps2194]

As usual, it's always being negative. The main point being made on this thread was that none of goo players got hurt and our other kids get some PT.

You lost most of us with the thread title "fly in the ointment", the talk of laying an egg, bad play calling, failed miserably and how we should have embarrassed them.

Yes, there were some positive comments but just as many negative. You can't fault Volnation for reacting to those comments as your post came off as negative regardless of your intentions.

 

[Biopsyman]

cancel the season

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

You lost most of us with the thread title "fly in the ointment", the talk of laying an egg, bad play calling, failed miserably and how we should have embarrassed them.

Yes, there were some positive comments but just as many negative. You can't fault Volnation for reacting to those comments as your post came off as negative regardless of your intentions.

Thanks! I can live with that. Will be more careful with word from now on so everyone can understand and see the true point that was trying to be made. Only want the best for our team. GBO!

 

[Grand Vol]

Every guy thinks he knows how to grill a steak, hit a golf ball and be an OC.

I cook a mean steak.

I can hit a golf ball (not very effectively, but that wasn't a condition)

And I can be an OC as it's not complicated. "See the end zone? Put one of our players with the ball in there."

 

[butchna]

I know it's been a while, but did anyone notice in the 98’ National Title game that we only converted one 3rd down the entire game. ONE! Play calling just real bad.

That team has a lot of improving to do!

It WAS Randy Sanders. :glare:

 

[tbulla]

First and foremost, overall we looked good as a team and the win was awesome as well as the crowd. Bottom line is we should have embarrassed them last night and run them out of our house. We put up a quick 14 points and laid an egg offensively from that point. Play calling went from decent to not good at all. The door should have been slammed on this team at the half and should have got the 2's and 3's some valuable live snaps with the continuation of the original game plan with those guys. Plus I would not have been near as nervous about our studs getting hurt. I truly believe, if we stay healthy and not lose our#1 guys, we can be right there with EVERY team on our schedule, primed to win. That being said, the play calling can't be 3 straight read options and punt or 2 swing passed and an incompletion and punt. Most important, it is a must to pick up every -and 1 yard to go at all cost, to be an efficient football team. Twice last night, we failed at it miserably against a lesser opponent. That can't happen and our play calling MUST be very good for us to successful this year with this team.

Truly, I'm not being negative, just thinking out loud. Either way, I'm behind Butch and company, was just a little concerned with the play calling last night. Your thoughts?

Half of our starters are Freshmen. It is valuable playing time for everyone when they step foot on the field

 

[DownTheField]

You said 'ointment'. Huh-uh-huh-uh-huh.

- Beavis

 

[volroadwarrior]

First and foremost, overall we looked good as a team and the win was awesome as well as the crowd. Bottom line is we should have embarrassed them last night and run them out of our house. We put up a quick 14 points and laid an egg offensively from that point. Play calling went from decent to not good at all. The door should have been slammed on this team at the half and should have got the 2's and 3's some valuable live snaps with the continuation of the original game plan with those guys. Plus I would not have been near as nervous about our studs getting hurt. I truly believe, if we stay healthy and not lose our#1 guys, we can be right there with EVERY team on our schedule, primed to win. That being said, the play calling can't be 3 straight read options and punt or 2 swing passed and an incompletion and punt. Most important, it is a must to pick up every -and 1 yard to go at all cost, to be an efficient football team. Twice last night, we failed at it miserably against a lesser opponent. That can't happen and our play calling MUST be very good for us to successful this year with this team.

Truly, I'm not being negative, just thinking out loud. Either way, I'm behind Butch and company, was just a little concerned with the play calling last night. Your thoughts?

We won. We embarrassed them. What else do you want?

Part of the FAHR THE COACH crowd after the 1st loss.

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

Half of our starters are Freshmen. It is valuable playing time for everyone when they step foot on the field

I agree with you 100% and if you read closely to the original post the pont I was making is that the guys that had playing time should not have even been in the game by the 2nd Half. Sooner or Later the time will come (And I hope that it is much later) that we will need that next line of freshman to be on the field. No better time to get some PT than a game already in hand. Also, no better time than to get a Sr hurt than a game that should already be out of reach that is not.

I know we really didn't want to show all we had, all I wanted to point out was we could have had this game put away alot sooner and made the team better all at the same time. GBO!

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

We won. We embarrassed them. What else do you want?

Part of the FAHR THE COACH crowd after the 1st loss.

Kentucky put up 35 in the 1st half against UT Martin. That's embarrassing a team! We could have easily done that, and teams have had no problem putting up all they can on us over the past few years, so I have no problem running it up. Florida State and Ohio State do it to cupcakes every week, so I say do onto others.

 

[Roustabout]

The defense won and controlled the game. Period, end of story. The offense stalled and looked pretty bad at times, especially the run game. A couple of scoring drives only required the offense to get 20 yards. So yes, I agree with the OP. Based on defense and field position, it could have been a blow out by half.
Time will tell. Perhaps USU is very good on defense but I don't think so.
The mind set may be "how can you complain about a 31 point win," but I'd say the OP is more in line with the coaches opinion of the game. I hope to goodness they are looking at some of the play calling and execution from Sunday, because the defense will not be able to cover up that many offensive mistakes against better teams. If you punt the ball eight times in a game, you cannot claim offensive success.
There was basically no pressure on then offense to score. In two weeks these things that seem like a scratch will be a gushing wound.

Worley didn't hurt the team but he missed badly on several deep balls and at other times never found the open receiver. They were basically relegated to dink and dunk.
The running game is the biggest concern. No other thing to say than it was unproductive.
Someone posted about comparative recruiting class ranking between the two. There was more talent in one UT recruiting class than a USU will have in a decade. If it weren't for the abysmal last five years no one would have given this game a 2nd thought.

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

The defense won and controlled the game. Period, end of story. The offense stalled and looked pretty bad at times, especially the run game. A couple of scoring drives only required the offense to get 20 yards. So yes, I agree with the OP. Based on defense and field position, it could have been a blow out by half.
Time will tell. Perhaps USU is very good on defense but I don't think so.
The mind set may be "how can you complain about a 31 point win," but I'd say the OP is more in line with the coaches opinion of the game. I hope to goodness they are looking at some of the play calling and execution from Sunday, because the defense will not be able to cover up that many offensive mistakes against better teams. If you punt the ball eight times in a game, you cannot claim offensive success.
There was basically no pressure on then offense to score. In two weeks these things that seem like a scratch will be a gushing wound.

Worley didn't hurt the team but he missed badly on several deep balls and at other times never found the open receiver. They were basically relegated to dink and dunk.
The running game is the biggest concern. No other thing to say than it was unproductive.
Someone posted about comparative recruiting class ranking between the two. There was more talent in one UT recruiting class than a USU will have in a decade. If it weren't for the abysmal last five years no one would have given this game a 2nd thought.

Finally! Someone else watched the same game I watched and can read an entire post without seeing red. This is the type of conversation I expected.

 

[vollygirl]

Kentucky put up 35 in the 1st half against UT Martin. That's embarrassing a team! We could have easily done that, and teams have had no problem putting up all they can on us over the past few years, so I have no problem running it up. Florida State and Ohio State do it to cupcakes every week, so I say do onto others.

You would rather us have run the score up by passing, instead letting Hurd get his game reps and giving our new o-line the chance to work on making holes against a decent opponent? (UT Martin is not a decent opponent.)

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

You would rather us have run the score up by passing, instead letting Hurd get his game reps and giving our new o-line the chance to work on making holes against a decent opponent? (UT Martin is not a decent opponent.)

I never said anything about throwing it all over the place. All I suggested was a an overall better mixture of call to maximize our potential. That's all. Utah St. turned out not to be much of an opponent either.

 

[oldfartvol]

Thanks! I can live with that. Will be more careful with word from now on so everyone can understand and see the true point that was trying to be made. Only want the best for our team. GBO!

This is how you man-up and see you made a mistake and learned from it.

Wish more posters could do the same. Much respect should be gained from this post IMHO, ALLVOL. :rock:

GBO

 

[volfan10735]

First and foremost, overall we looked good as a team and the win was awesome as well as the crowd. Bottom line is we should have embarrassed them last night and run them out of our house. We put up a quick 14 points and laid an egg offensively from that point. Play calling went from decent to not good at all. The door should have been slammed on this team at the half and should have got the 2's and 3's some valuable live snaps with the continuation of the original game plan with those guys. Plus I would not have been near as nervous about our studs getting hurt. I truly believe, if we stay healthy and not lose our#1 guys, we can be right there with EVERY team on our schedule, primed to win. That being said, the play calling can't be 3 straight read options and punt or 2 swing passed and an incompletion and punt. Most important, it is a must to pick up every -and 1 yard to go at all cost, to be an efficient football team. Twice last night, we failed at it miserably against a lesser opponent. That can't happen and our play calling MUST be very good for us to successful this year with this team.

Truly, I'm not being negative, just thinking out loud. Either way, I'm behind Butch and company, was just a little concerned with the play calling last night. Your thoughts?

Honestly, I think we did embarass them some. They sure weren't sticking their chests out and the QB was being knocked around. Even ESPN put some clips together showing Chucky Keeton had enough and the UTAH coaches should pull him before he gets messed up and ruins his season. Your comment about play calling would be completely different if some of those 3rd down passes had of been caught. Then you would say "play calling was brilliant." 2's got what 8 minutes of valuable playing time? That's pretty good considering only a 4 pt spread going into the game. I'm sure we discovered something inside the red zone that will provide us with a bag of goodies going forward. First game, new players, I give the OC an 'A' for play calling. Nice WIN.

 

[volinbama256]

I just hope we didn't open things up because we had it in hand.... the play calling was totally vanilla and i guess it should be until we need it.... hopefully that will be when we go to Norman...

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

Honestly, I think we did embarass them some. They sure weren't sticking their chests out and the QB was being knocked around. Even ESPN put some clips together showing Chucky Keeton had enough and the UTAH coaches should pull him before he gets messed up and ruins his season. Your comment about play calling would be completely different if some of those 3rd down passes had of been caught. Then you would say "play calling was brilliant." 2's got what 8 minutes of valuable playing time? That's pretty good considering only a 4 pt spread going into the game. I'm sure we discovered something inside the red zone that will provide us with a bag of goodies going forward. First game, new players, I give the OC an 'A' for play calling. Nice WIN.

WOW! I wish you were one of my professors when i was in school. An "A" and we failed on 2 3rd and 1 plays. Its all good...we were the dominant team! I just believe we should have proved it a little better. GBO!