Obama and that Pesky Constitution

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it's the difference between wanting to govern (lead) and wanting to leave a legacy.

as nbakerid has pointed out (and corrected me on), warren harding is not considered a great president - in fact, he's often considered one of the worst presidents. yet, he presided over a period of economic stability. nb, correct me if I've misstated what you've said.
 
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dreVol said:
it's the difference between wanting to govern (lead) and wanting to leave a legacy.

as nbakerid has pointed out (and corrected me on), warren harding is not considered a great president - in fact, he's often considered one of the worst presidents. yet, he presided over a period of economic stability. nb, correct me if I've misstated what you've said.
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Dont forget the orgies!

Yes!
 
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KiffinKiller said:
not that I agree with everything Obama wants to do - but I really don't think 4 year terms give presidents enough time to accomplish anything... In our system, anyway.
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Obama had a Democratic house and a Democratic supermajority in the Senate. He could have done whatever he wanted for 2 straight years. Yes, he was left with a big old turd sandwich by Bush and Co, but all he did was take the crap that Bush did, and turn it up to 11.
 
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I'm not speaking specifically about Obama - just wanted to put out my position in general. my wording was confusing. I'm saying if the GOP candidate beats him out in 2012, I don't think 4 years is enough to accomplish much...if anything.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
what a title - really makes people take you seriously when you name yourself "grand wizard" of white supremacy.
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I like to imagine that Klan members speak with a hard lisp.

"I'm the leader of thith Klan, becauthe I'm the Grand Withard."
 
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bamawriter said:
Obama had a Democratic house and a Democratic supermajority in the Senate. He could have done whatever he wanted for 2 straight years. Yes, he was left with a big old turd sandwich by Bush and Co, but all he did was take the crap that Bush did, and turn it up to 11.
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He had a supermajority on paper but there was 3 or 4 blue dogs that did not let Obama do whatever he wanted to for 2 straight years. There is no public option in Obamacare and that is one thing Obama wanted.
 
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Gramps said:
He had a supermajority on paper but there was 3 or 4 blue dogs that did not let Obama do whatever he wanted to for 2 straight years. There is no public option in Obamacare and that is one thing Obama wanted.
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Throughout his term I've seen rumblings and comments from Dems in Congress that he never really engaged them (obviously Rs feel this way). I think he could have gotten more done if he bothered to get in a work with Congress rather than throw things over the wall to them and give the directions.
 
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volinbham said:
Throughout his term I've seen rumblings and comments from Dems in Congress that he never really engaged them (obviously Rs feel this way). I think he could have gotten more done if he bothered to get in a work with Congress rather than throw

things over the wall to them and give the directions.
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Yes that is my understanding.
It is obvious his first two years he ignored the GOP and thought the Dems would automatically fall in line and do whatever he wanted
 
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White House Dictates Compromise on Contraception Mandate « The Arizona Conservative

President Barack Obama tried to console frustrated supporters by placing blame for the slow pace of change on the nation’s “founding fathers.”

“You and I know what needs to be done to bring social justice to every American,” the President observed. “But our enemies in Congress and the states are exploiting loopholes left in the Constitution by our nation’s early leaders. The requirement that laws must be approved by both houses of Congress enables obstructionists to block the mandate I received from voters in 2008. The autonomy granted the states under the Tenth Amendment insulates them from total compliance with national priorities I have established.”

A ray of hope for the president’s supporters was provided by his unilateral extension and amendment of the “No Child Left Behind” legislation. The original goal was to have all students become proficient in math and reading by 2014. It is apparent that this will not happen. Since 2007 Congress has been unable to agree on what to do regarding funding, standards and deadlines.

The President says he has decided to exempt 10 states from meeting the proficiency requirements. “The notion that a person must become proficient in math or reading in order to function in the modern world is mistaken,” Obama declared. “Today information is conveyed more effectively in pictures and sounds. Reading and writing are archaic skills no more necessary than the ability to hunt game for food.”

“And who really needs to know math?” the president asked. “We have computers, calculators and cash registers to do that for us. Insisting that students must comprehend math in order to graduate inflicts pure drudgery upon our youth.”

Exempted states will be permitted to use other standards to determine whether students are progressing satisfactorily in school. Obama urged that “higher, more honest standards be adopted as measures. I think the development of social consciousness in our young would be a higher goal for us to aim at than the simplistic mastery of out-dated and obsolete skills originally laid out by the ‘No Child Left Behind’ law.”

In related news, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg advised the newly elected Egyptian government to shun the U.S. Constitution as a model. “The US Constitution has too many impediments to successful governance,” Ginsburg warned. “The majority’s will is too easily thwarted by a minority. For example, despite your country’s overwhelming selection of Islamists in the recent election, if you were to adopt a U.S.-style Constitution you might be unable to enact sharia laws even if the vast majority desires it.”
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White House Dictates Compromise on Contraception Mandate « The Arizona Conservative

President Barack Obama tried to console frustrated supporters by placing blame for the slow pace of change on the nation’s “founding fathers.”

“You and I know what needs to be done to bring social justice to every American,” the President observed. “But our enemies in Congress and the states are exploiting loopholes left in the Constitution by our nation’s early leaders. The requirement that laws must be approved by both houses of Congress enables obstructionists to block the mandate I received from voters in 2008. The autonomy granted the states under the Tenth Amendment insulates them from total compliance with national priorities I have established.”

A ray of hope for the president’s supporters was provided by his unilateral extension and amendment of the “No Child Left Behind” legislation. The original goal was to have all students become proficient in math and reading by 2014. It is apparent that this will not happen. Since 2007 Congress has been unable to agree on what to do regarding funding, standards and deadlines.

The President says he has decided to exempt 10 states from meeting the proficiency requirements. “The notion that a person must become proficient in math or reading in order to function in the modern world is mistaken,” Obama declared. “Today information is conveyed more effectively in pictures and sounds. Reading and writing are archaic skills no more necessary than the ability to hunt game for food.”

“And who really needs to know math?” the president asked. “We have computers, calculators and cash registers to do that for us. Insisting that students must comprehend math in order to graduate inflicts pure drudgery upon our youth.”

Exempted states will be permitted to use other standards to determine whether students are progressing satisfactorily in school. Obama urged that “higher, more honest standards be adopted as measures. I think the development of social consciousness in our young would be a higher goal for us to aim at than the simplistic mastery of out-dated and obsolete skills originally laid out by the ‘No Child Left Behind’ law.”

In related news, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg advised the newly elected Egyptian government to shun the U.S. Constitution as a model. “The US Constitution has too many impediments to successful governance,” Ginsburg warned. “The majority’s will is too easily thwarted by a minority. For example, despite your country’s overwhelming selection of Islamists in the recent election, if you were to adopt a U.S.-style Constitution you might be unable to enact sharia laws even if the vast majority desires it.”
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