Obama shifts, says he may back offshore drilling

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For a long time, I held out hope that while I didn't agree with Obama, that he was at least legit. Now I know he isn't.
 
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To late, the Reps. was trying to get something going and for some reason Pelosi wanted to cut off the lights and go on vac. and some folks wonder why her ratings are so low.
 
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I'm actually glad to see this. I've saying for several days now that it is a huge strategical error (in today's "climate") to not even at least say that you will take it under consideration ... perhaps even on a limited basis. As long as off-shore drilling doesn't gain more weight than developing alternatives, then I think that it is the right call politically (and in general) for him.
 
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So he was against it. Now he "may" be for it. This guy is such an empty suit. Can he please bring something to the table.
 
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allvol123 said:
So he was against it. Now he "may" be for it. This guy is such an empty suit. Can he please bring something to the table.
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It happens. McCain did the same thing. He said no to ANWR and off-shore..then after the oil increases he reconsidered his off-shore position. His position is more defensible; however, Obama's party and advisers are going to generally be against something like this. His first reaction was not surprising. I am encouraged by the fact that he is backing off of the stand, personally. It doesn't make me like him anymore...but it does tell me that he doesn't completely have his head up his rear. I honestly don't think that we'll get that much oil out of these leases, but opening it up is the right thing to do.
 
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It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't. It has set a record for shortest time between position changes - at least McCain's switch has several years between it.

It will be interesting to see how this plays with the far left base. Obama has already worried them with his withdrawal but not withdrawal strategy. The don't drill but maybe drill strategy looks like another move away from their ideals.
 
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"'I think it's important for the American people to understand we're not going to drill our way out of this problem,' he said. 'It's also important to recognize if you start drilling now you won't see a drop of oil for ten years, which means its not going to have a significant impact on short-term prices. Every expert agrees on that.'"
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More "new-style" politics. These are his comments right after he said he's open to the idea. Why on earth is he open to the idea if he believes this? He just got through telling us that inflating our tires and getting tune-up is equivalent to offshore drilling.

I doubt the WPT will be a stimulus for increased oil production.

Finally, the last sentence is wrong. Plenty of economists see downward short-term pressures on oil prices associated with beginning new exploration.
 
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Obama might also finally be coming to the realization that the democrats opposition to increased US oil production results in fewer, very well paying jobs. And since there's always the possibility of those jobs being unionized (God-forbid), Obama really had no choice.

You will note however, that he waited for Congress to adjourn for their August break, before he said anything. The consummate, empty suit he is. He's almost as good a pure politician as Bill Clinton, it's too bad he can't speak off the top of his head to save his life.
 
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TennTradition said:
It happens. McCain did the same thing. He said no to ANWR and off-shore..then after the oil increases he reconsidered his off-shore position. His position is more defensible; however, Obama's party and advisers are going to generally be against something like this. His first reaction was not surprising. I am encouraged by the fact that he is backing off of the stand, personally. It doesn't make me like him anymore...but it does tell me that he doesn't completely have his head up his rear. I honestly don't think that we'll get that much oil out of these leases, but opening it up is the right thing to do.
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Yea, it does happen, that is why I said "these guys". They all do it. I guess I don't like his particular reasoning for changing his mind, which was done to help get him elected. Even if he knew the correct plan to follow it would not matter unless that was the plan to get him elected.
 
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volinbham said:
More "new-style" politics. These are his comments right after he said he's open to the idea. Why on earth is he open to the idea if he believes this? He just got through telling us that inflating our tires and getting tune-up is equivalent to offshore drilling.

Finally, the last sentence is wrong. Plenty of economists see downward short-term pressures on oil prices associated with beginning new exploration.
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It is quite comical how these guys are experts in fields that they have never participated in. Can any of them actually view problems with an open mind and not tied to political constraints?
 
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I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
 
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TennNC said:
I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
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we wouldn't have a chance to criticize him. If he were to ever become a conservative and discover capitalism, his head would probably explode due to the years of ingrained leftist indoctrination conflicting with the truth.
 
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TennNC said:
I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
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Have you criticized McCain for changing his stance on any issues?
 
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TennNC said:
I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
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TennNC is just mad because Obama is starting to lose his mojo. People are realizing that John McCain is the real deal. Sure, Obama says he's for offshore drilling, but can we really believe him? When it comes to the environment, I trust Obama about as much as I trust Algore --Not at all.
 
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TennNC said:
I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
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missing the point again.:thumbsup:
 
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notverycrucial said:
TennNC is just mad because Obama is starting to lose his mojo. People are realizing that John McCain is the real deal. Sure, Obama says he's for offshore drilling, but can we really believe him? When it comes to the environment, I trust Obama about as much as I trust Algore --Not at all.
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Your kidding, right?
 
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TennNC said:
I think Obama should come out and say he's against corporate windfall taxes, for the flat tax rate, against abortion, against all forms of welfare, against public education, and for offshore drilling, just so I could observe you all criticize him for changing his stance.
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If he were to adopt some of these views he would win in a landlside. He would pick up another segment of the vote and his current base really has no idea why they are voting for him. So he would maintain their vote as well.
 
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allvol123 said:
If he were to adopt some of these views he would win in a landlside. He would pick up another segment of the vote and his current base really has no idea why they are voting for him. So he would maintain their vote as well.
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So by this logic, nearly half the nation are lemmings?
 
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allvol123 said:
Large portions are.
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I might agree with that in general -- but you sound as though they are entirely on the Obama side. Both sides of the political spectrum have ardent followers that tie themselves to parties without question.
 
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