fl0at
studyin' like heck
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If someone said, "I believe I love you" then mocked you, betrayed you, and generally disrespected and mistreated you... would that constitute a genuine "belief"? Not at all.
Why are they not able to love you, and do all of those things?
To answer your question, believers sin. Believers sometimes struggle with sin for their whole lives. Some believe Paul's thorn in the side was a sin that he struggled with.
Some believers struggle with homosexual sin. Believers do not deny that it is sin or rationalize it in any way, deny that it should be battled and overcome, or argue that it is morally equivalent to the man-woman-marriage relationship affirmed by the Bible.
Believers sin, yes. You accept that, as do all. It is the level of sin that you accept that is illogical.
Are there "gray" sins, or just "black and white" sins? If only black and white, then you should use that broad stroke brush to paint you and your entire religion with the same brush you paint an entire subset of the population.
If you showed genuine interest in learning rather than just arguing I would gladly do it for you. If you did not have access to a Bible I'd do it for you.
If I had no interest in learning, I wouldn't be here. I may very well disagree, but that does not mean I am not learning.
I am unlikely to change my view, but that does not mean I am not learning, or attempting to learn.
And I do not have access to a Bible. I have the Internet, though. I can look up the passage, when given. I'll also need the version, because there are several out there.
Jesus said He did not come to overturn the law but to complete it... to fulfill it. Jesus NEVER contradicted or changed a moral standard from the OT. That includes those regarding sexuality.
Then Jesus had no qualms with Deuteronomy? Are you wearing clothes made of two different fibers today? You should probably get rid of them, then. Ya know, so you can strive to remove sin.
If you think that Jesus approved of or was in any way ambivalent about sexual sins to include homosexuality then you are deluding yourself.
FTR, Paul was more than just a follower of Christ. He was an Apostle. He was someone according to the NT who was used to pen scripture. The Apostles to include Paul wrote the doctrines and teachings of Christ. The dichotomy you are apparently trying to create... does not exist.
It not only exists, it is the foundation for your religion. Whether you believe that or not, Jesus did not write scripture. The basis for all that which you deride are from man.