Obama wants mass-murderer released!

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therealUT said:
GS, do you view these detainees as Prisoners of War, as individuals who have committed federal crimes, or as individuals that have committed international crimes who should be tried in an international court?
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That could and probably would be a solution to a difficult problem, however the world court in the Hague is a sham kangaroo court, despite Biden's offering that Brussels would make a dandy world capitol.

My biggest problem with Obama's stupid iniative is that these douchenuggets will return to the battle field to kill an maim my fellow Americans.



milohimself said:
Maybe we should have not banned pontiac man so gs would have a kindred spirit
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What did you ban him for?

I didn't notice him referring to other posters as doucenuggets, goat cheese, etc as your kindred spirit stinky dinky is in the habit of.

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gsvol said:
That could and probably would be a solution to a difficult problem, however the world court in the Hague is a sham kangaroo court, despite Biden's offering that Brussels would make a dandy world capitol.
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So, do you see them as Prisoners of War, as individuals that have violated US Federal Law, or as individuals that should be tried by an international tribunal?

From your post here, it seems as though you think they should be tried by an international tribunal; yet, the current system is not to your liking so you would rather they were detained indefinitely. Tell me where I am wrong.

gsvol said:
My biggest problem with Obama's stupid iniative is that these douchenuggets will return to the battle field to kill an maim my fellow Americans.
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So, if and when we pull out of Afghanistan do you then think these persons should be released back to Afghanistan?
 
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therealUT said:
So, do you see them as Prisoners of War, as individuals that have violated US Federal Law, or as individuals that should be tried by an international tribunal?

From your post here, it seems as though you think they should be tried by an international tribunal; yet, the current system is not to your liking so you would rather they were detained indefinitely. Tell me where I am wrong.



So, if and when we pull out of Afghanistan do you then think these persons should be released back to Afghanistan?
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I never said your little link there.

You just flat out took something, made it up, and posted my name. Douche nugget? Seriously?

Who even says that?
 
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NEOCON said:
I never said your little link there.

You just flat out took something, made it up, and posted my name. Douche nugget? Seriously?

Who even says that?
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You quoted the wrong person. GS, if you are out there, this post by NEOCON is intended for you.

*I made a copy and paste error in my response to GS's post. GS used the word 'douchenugget', not NEOCON.
 
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no. you're lil douche nugget tag on there that i never said.

what the hell man?

you're starting to creep me out.
 
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Is this the same Marwan from season 4 of 24? If this is same man who kidnapped the secretary of defense, caused a nuclear meltdown, almost killed the president by taking down Air Force One, and launched a nuclear warhead....Obama's in some deep ****.
 
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gsvol said:
What did you ban him for?

I didn't notice him referring to other posters as doucenuggets, goat cheese, etc as your kindred spirit stinky dinky is in the habit of.
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Lol... goat cheese. I see it doesn't... sit well with you.

IIRC, he linked to a website called "when blacks attack." My guess would be that, as well as the fact that you're only kept around because you're so entertainingly ignorant. Remember, you're the nuttiest one here... there's a general consensus to prove that.
 
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it doesn't take long for him to bi!ch about this stuff again. He's the only person I've seen run to the mods while simultaneously claim they are biased.
 
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therealUT said:
So, do you see them as Prisoners of War, as individuals that have violated US Federal Law, or as individuals that should be tried by an international tribunal?

From your post here, it seems as though you think they should be tried by an international tribunal; yet, the current system is not to your liking so you would rather they were detained indefinitely. Tell me where I am wrong.

So, if and when we pull out of Afghanistan do you then think these persons should be released back to Afghanistan?
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If they are considered to be POWs, then I have no problem with them being held in custody until the war ends.

If we are going to bring them to face a court proceeding then I have no problem with them appearing before an US military tribunal court.

Instead of being set free, as Obama and company (Hitlary and Holder) proposes, then I see them being released to the Afghanistani government, (which will facilitate their release through bribery because that is how their system really works if you want to get down to brass and tacks.)



NEOCON said:
I never said your little link there.

You just flat out took something, made it up, and posted my name. Douche nugget? Seriously?

Who even says that?
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Stinky Dinky introduced that inane term into the convesation.



therealUT said:
You quoted the wrong person. GS, if you are out there, this post by NEOCON is intended for you.

*I made a copy and paste error in my response to GS's post. GS used the word 'douchenugget', not NEOCON.
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Refer to Dinkyflunky, hence my orginal question.



milohimself said:
Wasn't I who banned firebird man.
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Why was he banned and is it a permanent ban?

As I previously stated, I didn't see him make the same sort of violation of board rules as I see have been made by those who can still post.

Care to elaborate at all?
 
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KiffinKiller said:
it doesn't take long for him to bi!ch about this stuff again. He's the only person I've seen run to the mods while simultaneously claim they are biased.
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Milo isn't shy about stating that he is indeed biased as to the way he monitors.

Do you have any opinion about the proposed release of high ranking Taliban prisoners?

If not, continue with you ankle biting.





DinkinFlicka said:
Lol... goat cheese. I see it doesn't... sit well with you.

IIRC, he linked to a website called "when blacks attack." My guess would be that, as well as the fact that you're only kept around because you're so entertainingly ignorant. Remember, you're the nuttiest one here... there's a general consensus to prove that.
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Someone must have gotten to you to for you to be calling other people names.

So Pontiac introduced something that isn't considered PC?

Ha ha, general consensus among a group of nutcases?
I'm flattered.
 
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gsvol said:
Ha ha, general consensus among a group of nutcases?
I'm flattered.
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Haha, you just became that guy in the straight jacket yelling, "I'm not crazy... everyone else is!!!"

If this board is full of nutcases, as you just stated, then why do you spend hours each week posting here? It's kind of pathetic.
 
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Maybe one of you nutcases can 'splain to me the benefits of releasing high level Hamas, Hezbollah and Taliban terrorists?
 
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gsvol said:
Maybe one of you nutcases can 'splain to me the benefits of releasing high level Hamas, Hezbollah and Taliban terrorists?
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We are not at war with Hamas nor Hezbollah; so, those who fit that designation either need to be tried in court for crimes against the US or released. Indefinite detention is not the precedent that the US needs to be setting.

As for the Taliban prisoners, they should be held until we leave Afghanistan (hopefully that day is coming soon); at which time, they should be released into the custody of the Afghan Government.
 
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therealUT said:
We are not at war with Hamas nor Hezbollah; so, those who fit that designation either need to be tried in court for crimes against the US or released. Indefinite detention is not the precedent that the US needs to be setting.

As for the Taliban prisoners, they should be held until we leave Afghanistan (hopefully that day is coming soon); at which time, they should be released into the custody of the Afghan Government.
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Hamas and Hezbollah are at war with us and are terrorist organizations and have the blood of many Americans on their hands, including US soliders, are we not at war with terrorists worldwide?

I can agree with releasing the Taliban to the Afghan government at some time but not while we are still engaged as Obama will probably do.

Arkansas family loses second son in Afghanistan - Boston.com

The war in Afghanistan has claimed the lives of two sons of an Arkansas couple who also have a third son in the military.

Sgt. 1st Class Benjamin Wise, 34, of Little Rock, was on his fourth deployment overseas when he was injured during an insurgent attack on his unit last week. He died from his wounds Sunday at hospital in Germany, the Department of Defense said in a statement Tuesday.

His brother, 35-year-old Jeremy Wise, was killed in a terrorist attack on a CIA outpost in Afghanistan in December 2009. He was a former Navy Seal working as a security contractor.

Their brother, Marine Corps Cpl. Matthew Wise, is based Hawaii but was in Germany to be with his brother, his wife Amber said. She said she was at Benjamin's home in Washington state watching his children, but she declined further comment.

The Army Ranger is survived by his wife, two sons and a daughter.
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For someone such as yourself who claims to have been an Army Ranger officer, I find it strange that you would try to portray indefinate detention of terrorist as somehow victimizing them but call Col West a scumbag.

IMO there may be a scumbag in the discussion but I suggest it isn't West.
 
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gsvol said:
Hamas and Hezbollah are at war with us and are terrorist organizations and have the blood of many Americans on their hands, including US soliders, are we not at war with terrorists worldwide?
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With a statement such as this, that we are fighting a war with 'terrorism' per se, is an assertion that you support indefinite detention of these persons without ever allowing them a day in court.

gsvol said:
I can agree with releasing the Taliban to the Afghan government at some time but not while we are still engaged as Obama will probably do.
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If he does, it will be unfortunate. However, under GWB, plenty of insurgents were released back to the Government of Iraq from US detention centers in Iraq and many of these insurgents were quickly released by the GOI. Obama using the release of prisoners to potentially barter puts him in line with every other American President during a period of war.

gsvol said:
For someone such as yourself who claims to have been an Army Ranger officer, I find it strange that you would try to portray indefinate detention of terrorist as somehow victimizing them but call Col West a scumbag.
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Stripping someone of their freedoms for the rest of their life without any due process is wrong. It is one thing to react in imminent self-defense and shoot and kill another person in battle. That can be excused. It is another thing to coldly strip that persons life away when they are not posing an imminent threat.

gsvol said:
IMO there may be a scumbag in the discussion but I suggest it isn't West.
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No; it is West. You start beating on an unarmed and defenseless individual and you are a scumbag.
 
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