# of people on disability

#26
#26
MG1968 said:
your opinion doesn't reflect reality, take a look at the real unemployment numbers then add to that the number of people who have used up their 99 weeks of UE and are now drawing SSI.

it's staggering
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What would you want to administration to do? They aren't wanted to meddle in private enterprise so they can't make businesses hire...
 
#27
#27
MG1968 said:
your opinion doesn't reflect reality, take a look at the real unemployment numbers then add to that the number of people who have used up their 99 weeks of UE and are now drawing SSI.

it's staggering
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his opinion reflects what the dems/media are telling him
 
#28
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
What would you want to administration to do? They aren't wanted to meddle in private enterprise so they can't make businesses hire...
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there are jobs out there for people that want to pay bills on their own. But why take those when you can get similar pay for doing nothing?
 
#30
#30
GoBigOrangeUT said:
What would you want to administration to do? They aren't wanted to meddle in private enterprise so they can't make businesses hire...
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repeal the healthcare law

repeal Dodd/Frank

stop meddling with the housing market and let it bottom out naturally

stop subsidizing "green energy" and sign the Keystone XL deal

there is plenty this administration "could do" but they won't because it has no desire to see free-market capitalism win
 
#31
#31
GoBigOrangeUT said:
What would you want to administration to do? They aren't wanted to meddle in private enterprise so they can't make businesses hire...
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get the heck out of the way of private business, BHO is regulating it to death, stop the UE at 24 weeks and people would get their arse back to work as companies are hiring and can not get UE whores to take the jobs
 
#33
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T-TownVol said:
get the heck out of the way of private business, BHO is regulating it to death, stop the UE at 24 weeks and people would get their arse back to work as companies are hiring and can not get UE whores to take the jobs
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I agree with shortening the UE benefits. 99 weeks is way too long.
 
#34
#34
I offer $12 an hr plus insurance and can not find unemployed deadbeats to take the jobs, they are getting $10 hr plus food stamps for sitting out of the workforce.
 
#36
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T-TownVol said:
I offer $12 an hr plus insurance and can not find unemployed deadbeats to take the jobs, they are getting $10 hr plus food stamps for sitting out of the workforce.
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So it would seem that shortening the unemployment benefits would solve the complacency problem. Seems to easy...
 
#37
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
So it would seem that shortening the unemployment benefits would solve the complacency problem. Seems to easy...
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the govt has a hard time telling people no, esp in an election cycle (and we're always in one of those). Not to mention the screams of "think about the children" make everyone feel bad
 
#39
#39
GoBigOrangeUT said:
So it would seem that shortening the unemployment benefits would solve the complacency problem. Seems to easy...
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We will never know as long as this administration is in the whitehouse, but yes, it is that easy. People have a survival instinct and they would earn a living. Hand outs enslave people and our government knows it.
 
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#40
From what I see, the real key is to get your children rated with a disability, especially if you are a single parent. If you have multiple children with permanent disabilities then you can get enough assistance to live a pretty good lifestyle.

Most kids have behavioral problems as they grow up--it is called growing up. But, when you add the challenges of poverty, abuse, drugs, alcohol, poor nutrition, etc, there is a population of kids who need additional help. In most cases they don't need to be labeled with a permanent disability, but that is what happens for a lot of reasons, most of which come back to money.

For example, a behavioral health clinic that takes health insurance can and will use their disabled clientele as their revenue base. Now the insurance companies say they only want to pay for therapies with empirical evidence that shows they work, so the clinic will have a percentage of short term clients that they treat for a couple of months in order to prove their effectiveness. But, the long term client, especially a kid with ADHD, OCD, ODD, etc, will provide revenue for decades.

So, not only does the 99 weeks thing give adults incentive to stay home, our medical disability system gives those same adults incentive to have their kids diagnosed and labeled as permanently disabled so they get their assistance check for ever. And, at the same time, we give the professionals incentive to add to their list of permanently disabled to keep the money flowing to their clinics.

We have built ourselves quite a system.
 
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Lexvol said:
I'm all for a safety net. I was between jobs for about six weeks this year. I never drew unemployment because we had properly prepared for the situation. The accountant from my previous employer told me that she was filing papers that would allow me to draw if I'd apply. When I asked her what I would be eligible to net from the govt...I couldn't believe it.

I had worked my butt off for the last three years. Very little vacation ect. The payout would have been enough to make my house payment every month with enough $$ left over for Dish and strippers. If my wife was working (she has an advanced degree but has stayed home with the kids for about six years now) I would have had absolutely 0 incentive to get back to work. I could have sat on my ass for two years without taking any hits to my lifestyle. That is just wrong.
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This is the democratic american dream
 
#43
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Forgive me if I don't see the correlation between UE and disability. Again, a few cases if misuse does not invalidate the good of the program.
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Normally there shouldn't be much of one but the finding in the study was that there has been a dramatic increase in disability applications - a significant amount for mental issues from people that lost their jobs.

The connection is then that people who aren't disabled are getting treated as so and thus dropping out of the work force.

There will always be some cheating but the gist of the story is that the upturn shows more than just some going.

Further, it puts the insolvency of SS even closer.
 
#44
#44
volinbham said:
Normally there shouldn't be much of one but the finding in the study was that there has been a dramatic increase in disability applications - a significant amount for mental issues from people that lost their jobs.

The connection is then that people who aren't disabled are getting treated as so and thus dropping out of the work force.

There will always be some cheating but the gist of the story is that the upturn shows more than just some going.

Further, it puts the insolvency of SS even closer.
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Thank you for the explanation
 
#45
#45
Steven Hawkins contributes to society ,people that are mentally retarded contribute to society ..disability is an easy way out ! I have 6 compressed vertebra ,dislocated collarbone ,arthritis and I work every day,if a retarded person can work so can I.
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#49
#49
I'm old. I'm tired. I've worked for the last 40+years. My bones ache.
Where do I sign up for all this free stuff ?

If a 25 year old man that can run a 4.8 40 quailfy for disability, food stamps, free electric, free cell phone, etc. I should be able to.
 
#50
#50
How about everybody receiving UE, disability, food stamps, free healthcare, etc be subject to random drug screens once a month and if they fail they are shut off? While I agree the program should be there for the people who NEED it but it is helping more that don't need it than do IMO.
 
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