Official 2012 DNC thread

#229
#229
PKT_VOL said:
Besides it being to long, I would say that it was a good speech.

The more I think about it, I dunno that any commentator on MSNBC has ever said anything negative about a Democrat. I haven't been watching MSNBC for too long, but I don't believe I have.
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They don't but Ed Shultz is on another level. He's about as stupid as Olbermann to me.
 
#230
#230
Msnbc blames everything on the republicans.

It's pretty nuts. And maddow always has a sarcastic tone and smirk. She is obnoxious.
 
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#231
#231
missourivol said:
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Obama took office in jan 09. I'm not finding a job growth of 4.5 million. Plus who took congress after the 06 elections. Then he mentioned how job growth took off in 95-96. Who was in charge of congress then.
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Not to be picky but the graph and chart show all jobs. The 4.5 million is specifically about private sector jobs. Not saying that the number is correct, but you could create a lot of private sector jobs but still end up with a negative number for a month because of public sector layoffs.
 
#232
#232
missourivol said:
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Obama took office in jan 09. I'm not finding a job growth of 4.5 million. Plus who took congress after the 06 elections. Then he mentioned how job growth took off in 95-96. Who was in charge of congress then.
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GOP in change in 95-96.

IIRC The GOP took control in '94 with Newts Contract with America.

The difference then and now is the congress and white house negotiated and passed some good bills.
 
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#234
Boston Vol said:
Not to be picky but the graph and chart show all jobs. The 4.5 million is specifically about private sector jobs. Not saying that the number is correct, but you could create a lot of private sector jobs but still end up with a negative number for a month because of public sector layoffs.
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Too bad 5 million people graduated college in that same time period
 
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#235
Gramps said:
GOP in change in 95-96.

IIRC The GOP took control in '94 with Newts Contract with America.

The difference then and now is the congress and white house negotiated and passed some good bills.
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And this president does not believe in bipartisanship. Remember the "I won" remark when meeting over the stimulus. When democrats are in charge of congress it seems we have more job losses. By looking at the graphs it seems.
 
#237
#237
missourivol said:
And this president does not believe in bipartisanship. Remember the "I won" remark when meeting over the stimulus. When democrats are in charge of congress it seems we have more job losses. By looking at the graphs it seems.
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I never claimed Obama would compromise .

I stated Clinton and the GOP congress did compromise.
 
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#238
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Too bad 5 million people graduated college in that same time period
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Your point? I graduated college in that same time period. Most of my friends have found work. I'm not saying the 4.5 number is correct, I was just pointing out the flaws in the information that was supplied.
 
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#239
missourivol said:
And this president does not believe in bipartisanship. Remember the "I won" remark when meeting over the stimulus. When democrats are in charge of congress it seems we have more job losses. By looking at the graphs it seems.
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Obama said he would be a uniter, not a divider. IIRC didn't he make a statement in the direction of the GOP when the dems had the house and senate that they should "go to the back of the bus, we're in control now."
 
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#240
Boston Vol said:
Your point? I graduated college in that same time period. Most of my friends have found work. I'm not saying the 4.5 number is correct, I was just pointing out the flaws in the information that was supplied.
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I'm just saying too bad we only created 4.5 million jobs when we had 5 million graduate college
 
#242
#242
Gramps said:
I question some if his numbers but that was one of the best political speeches I have ever heard.

In my lifetime there has been 2 great communicators and one spoke tonight, the other was Reagan.

I would hate to be in Obama shoes and try to top this tomorrow night.
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I would probably vote for Clinton over Romney if there was a law that wouold allow him to run again. The man worked with both aisles like you said and we actually had a real government. The BJ witch hunt was stupid even though the amount of people who died around him while in office is still suspicious. But honestly, I didnt really care about that either.

My fear with Obama is I see in four years him handing over a deficit of 20 plus billion, over 60% on government payroll, 8.5% or higher unemployment, and an increase in taxes for everyone making 35K or more.

I also see our allies losing faith in us, other countries gaining oil reserves and wells and us becoming more dependant, and the racial divide in this country much larger than it is now.

I see a bleak future.
 
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#244
NEOCON said:
My fear with Obama is I see in four years him handing over a deficit of 20 plus billion, over 60% on government payroll, 8.5% or higher unemployment, and an increase in taxes for everyone making 35K or more.
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And still blaming Bush. From Obama I expect even more spending with no attempt to lower the budget deficit or national debt.

Agreed...I believe our future is very bleak. I don't think enough people take the US spending deficits seriously.
 
#245
#245
Meant to say trillion.

In my brain, the world trillion is not real. It's like a made up word so I guess I slipped an said billion.

But seriously.....16 trillion.

It's just amazing.
 
#246
#246
Yea, once tarp happened the numbers getting thrown out got rediculous. Millions became small and insignificant. Billions is just another big, but not so big number. Trillions? Whatever man.
 
#247
#247
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#250
#250
Loved the response when they said they would add god and Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
 
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