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#853
#853
UKIP: The Party’s Over.


As Britain once again heads towards European Parliamentary Elections, the Brexiteers are split. Here’s why, and how it has come to pass.


The UK Independence Party (UKIP) entered this European Parliament session with 24 seats. It now has just three.

Nearly five years since Nigel Farage drubbed the political establishment and led UKIP to becoming the first non-major political party to win a national election in 100 years, the party is now polling at levels it hasn’t seen in 20 years.

The latest three polls (YouGov/ComRes/YouGov) place the party on an average of six points.

The party’s demise has certainly been assisted by the launch of Farage’s new Brexit Party — a cross-party, cross-philosophy phenomenon borne out of equal parts frustration at the government’s handling of the Brexit process, and Farage’s falling out of love with UKIP.

UKIP: The Party’s Over.
 
#854
#854
Yes America, The EU Is Your Fault.


American globalists set out to unify European nations, even funding pro-EU movements via the CIA and State Department


Today in Britain, among “people like us” – you may recognize that as a Thatcher phrase — the book we are reading is Julian Jackson’s new biography, “A Certain Idea of France: the Life of Charles de Gaulle.”

To see if people like you might be reading it, too, I’ve just gone through the New York Timesnon-fiction best-seller list.

All I can come up with are books on a biotech start-up, Michelle Obama, environmental panic, the Kushners, and the troubles in Northern Ireland.

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GOOD READ:
Yes America, The EU Is Your Fault.
 
#855
#855
That is a load of crap. We pay billions..every year...to most of the countries on this planet. Everyone has their hand out to the US. That lady crying and blaming the US, for paying money IN THE 40S AND 1950S did not make the entire continent of europe become a bunch of socialist ninnies and give away all of their individual countries rights. Stupid author, stupid article.

Furthermore, even after they all were dumb enough to join the EU, they STILL couldnt defend themselves, which is the ONLY reason that we would have ever wanted an EU, so hopefully they could FINALLY defend themselves from Russia...but no. They still just cant seem to pull that off, and expect us to not only defend them, but finance the majority of NATO and the UN to make sure they dont get run over by the Russians, even after we won the cold war. Sheesh.

Thst is a fine example of misdirected hostility(311) as we all know that if the Brits have anyone to be upset with for their plight, besides themselves, it is their inept leadership. France citizens are tearing their country apart every weekend...it should be the Britons throwing every single MP and their PM out in the streets. They should start over with the condition that their replacements would ALSO ALL be tossed out on their arses in 90 days if a deal with the EU wasnt in hand, and Brexit underway.

So tired of the US getting blamed for everything...Pacer might as well have written that garbage. We have made plenty of mistakes as a country, the greatest being to allow our leaders to pass budgets that exceed revenue, that should never happen except in times when congress has declared war and the money is needed for the war effort. That said, we are the greatest country in the world, many if not most countries outside Europe would not even exist without our protection, their neighbors would simply overpower them and take their resources. Yet those same pissant countries constantly blame us for everything. Tired of that crap. Trump may be a buffoon, but he is a proud American and doesnt shy away from conflict, or get run over by foreign leaders like gayboy obummer did.
 
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#860
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Velo Vol said:
It hasn't happened yet, but she's a dead PM walking. And if she steps down with no viable plan before parliament, then what? Which direction do Conservatives go?
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Pretty obvious she was put into this position to destroy Brexit. On to the next sellout...
 
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I wonder what percent of English brexiters would still support Brexit if it meant the collapse of the United Kingdom (not that I think that’s what would happen)?
 
#869
#869
She was in an unenviable position, but she brought a her failures upon herself. Triggered Article 50 with no real vision of where it was going, then basically didn't attempt to build a cross-party consensus until the 11th hour.

 
#874
#874
I don't think May did a good job, but in her defense, I don't think there was any realistic outcome that would have gone over well. There is no realistic option with majority support.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I don't think May did a good job, but in her defense, I don't think there was any realistic outcome that would have gone over well. There is no realistic option with majority support.
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An interesting counterfactual is if she'd started in parliament two years ago to see what it might support, rather than bringing it a deal as the clock was ticking down.

Maybe that would have bogged down too. Who knows.
 
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