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Nature magazine just published a pretty important article to the climate change debate. Here is part of Ronald Bailey's helpful summary:

"First they note that there are definitional problems in the scientific literature. The global warming hiatus can describe the period between 1998 and 2015 in which there was (1) no discernible increase in global average temperature, (2) a dramatic slow-down in the increase warming from the prior late 20th century trend, and (3) a slower increase than projected by climate computer models. They also explore the proposed causes for the hiatus including external drivers such as solar variability and aerosols from volcanic eruptions; the possibility of a lower equilibrium climate sensitivity in response to added carbon dioxide; and internal variability, especially periodic long-term shifts in regional ocean temperatures.

Another important concern is how the observational temperature records are measured and adjusted over time.

These researchers do acknowledge that the apparent hiatus spurred a lot of useful scientific work on measuring ocean temperatures, attempts to take into account missing surface temperature data in remote areas, further efforts to nail down more precisely how the earth's atmosphere will respond to added carbon dioxide, and improvements in the climate models.

Basically, the researchers reconciled the hiatus controversy by lowering modeled temperature trends while raising the observational temperature trend. This is fascinating work and it will be interesting to see how it stands up to the test of time and data."
 
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#6,881
Even put together, wind and photovoltaic solar are supplying less than 1 per cent of global energy demand. From the International Energy Agency’s 2016 Key Renewables Trends, we can see that wind provided 0.46 per cent of global energy consumption in 2014, and solar and tide combined provided 0.35 per cent...

Such numbers are not hard to find, but they don’t figure prominently in reports on energy derived from the unreliables lobby (solar and wind). Their trick is to hide behind the statement that close to 14 per cent of the world’s energy is renewable, with the implication that this is wind and solar. In fact the vast majority — three quarters — is biomass (mainly wood), and a very large part of that is ‘traditional biomass’; sticks and logs and dung burned by the poor in their homes to cook with. Those people need that energy, but they pay a big price in health problems caused by smoke inhalation.
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05...or-green-and-they-provide-zero-global-energy/
 
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Trump views on climate 'evolving' amid push from Europeans

WTF is going on here? And WTF is Gary Cohn from Goldman Ballsachs talking about - ****ting all over our beloved coal miners and proposing gay windmills?

In a striking comment given Trump’s support during the campaign for American coal miners, Cohn also said “coal doesn’t even really make that much sense anymore as a feedstock.” He singled out natural gas as “such a cleaner fuel” and also noted that the U.S. could become a “manufacturing powerhouse” by investing in wind and solar energy.
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This is embarrassing.
 
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golfballs said:
Trump views on climate 'evolving' amid push from Europeans

WTF is going on here? And WTF is Gary Cohn from Goldman Ballsachs talking about - ****ting all over our beloved coal miners and proposing gay windmills?



This is embarrassing.
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The quote about coal and natural gas is accurate, though. It's undoubtedly bad for coal miners but the industry is a victim of fracking/natural gas. Green energy has little to do with it at present.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Your post is what is really embarrassing. What don't you understand? Coal is dying, there are much cleaner options available. It's called progress!
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I promise coal will not die, there are plants around the world and even in our region that use it and they are and will continue to use coal. It's really embarrassing when you might be brainwashed to the idea every chunk of coal is 'bad'. Carry on.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
I promise coal will not die, there are plants around the world and even in our region that use it and they are and will continue to use coal. It's really embarrassing when you might be brainwashed to the idea every chunk of coal is 'bad'. Carry on.
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Its embarassing you might be brainwashed to the idea that coal doesnt hurt the environment. The sooner it dies the better off we'll be in the long run.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
I promise coal will not die, there are plants around the world and even in our region that use it and they are and will continue to use coal. It's really embarrassing when you might be brainwashed to the idea every chunk of coal is 'bad'. Carry on.
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Coal is essential to manufacture steel.
 
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