Official GOP Convention thread

[n_huffhines]

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[n_huffhines]

"...the greatest difference between wrestling fans and political fans is that most wrestling fans realize what they're watching isn't real."

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

figured Id post this here since the Johnson fans almost hijacked the DNC thread and I want to keep that thread on subject

CNN Poll: Did Romney get a convention bounce? – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Romney gained among independent voters, with a three point 48%-45% margin last week expanding to 52%-42% advantage now.

So how does Romney's one-point bounce measure up in the history books?

"It's pretty standard for all conventions conducted since 2000. Twice during that period, candidates got a two-point bounce; twice in that same time, candidates got no bounce at all. So Romney's one-point bounce is right in the middle of the range that political junkies have come to expect in the 21st century," said Holland

The convention did affect how voters view Romney. He went from a 46%-49% deficit on being a strong and decisive leader to a 48%-43% advantage. On the question of having a vision for the country's future, he went from a three-point deficit to a four-point edge.

10 point advantage with Inds is what Obama had in 2008.

Things That Make You Go Hmmmm.... - YouTube

Edit: new ABC poll shows Romney +7 with women and Obama -11

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17153147

 

[n_huffhines]

What the Republican National Committee did to Ron Paul was the height of rudeness and stupidity for this reason: Why would you alienate an individual who has the ability to attract a new generation of voters, who are already skeptical of your institution but are willing to at least listen through the vehicle of this individual and the words that he is saying? Why would you alienate them, get on the floor and not let them speak? Not have his name go up on the board and see the number of electoral votes that he receives? This is crazy! - Michael Steele

Michael Steele: Ron Paul treated with “Rudeness and Stupidity.” | iroots.org

 

[GAVol]

Not saying there might not be some validity to that, but Michael Steele has been a malcontent ever since the RNC ran him.

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

Gary Johnson has zero chance of being elected.

Correct

The polls do not show a bounce from the GOP convention.
As of yesterday afternoon Romney had gained 1.8% on Obama in the RCP poll which you posted the link to with Obama leading in 10 of their 12 battleground states.

Incorrect. You said he had no bounce from either Ryan or RNC, I gave you a link with a graph showing the exact opposite. The RCP battleground states is an average of polls taken over months. There are no new polls from battle ground states besides Rasmussen which shows him leading by 2% in 12 battle ground states

Why would you post a link to a poll then deny what the poll says?

The data is old, see above

You then go to another thread and post some underlying data frame an CNN poll that shows Romney gained within certain groups.

Correct. Pretty important underlining data, like POTUS approval ratings well below 50% and Independent voters liking Romney 52% vs Obama 42% and 7 point gains with Women

1.8% gain in the week following the convention is not a bounce.

Incorrect, especially when you look into the data

It good to hear you have a homeowners association with more clout than Gary Johnson.

We get that you dont like Romney, but the data shows its very clear that the campaign has changed

Clint Eastwood’s speech, reexamined

Several days later, as the harrumphing subsides and the American zeitgeist has its way, it turns out that Eastwood was brilliant in a Garry Trudeau-ian way.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Michael Steele: Ron Paul treated with “Rudeness and Stupidity.” | iroots.org

Steele is one of the few Republicans I like. He always seems pretty honest and relatively fair when I have seen him give commentary since he is no longer the head of the RNC.

 

[PKT_VOL]

We get that you dont like Romney, but the data shows its very clear that the campaign has changed

Clint Eastwood’s speech, reexamined

The GOP convention was the least effective convention on record.

If the DNC continues at the rate it did last night, they will blow the doors off the GOP convention as far as effectiveness.

 

[myrobbins7]

Michael Steele: Ron Paul treated with “Rudeness and Stupidity.” | iroots.org

That's just damn sad, but not surprising.

 

[VolsNSkinsFan]

The GOP convention was the least effective convention on record.

If the DNC continues at the rate it did last night, they will blow the doors off the GOP convention as far as effectiveness.

Good Luck. Going to be tough when "America's Got Talent" and "Hells Kitchen" is beating them in ratings

 

[Gramps]

Romney is like Al Gore , losing his home state.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MI_9312.pdf

September 3, 2012
PPP's first likely voters poll in Michigan this year finds Barack Obama with a solid lead in the state, 51-44.

Michigan voters just don't embrace Romney. Only 45% have a favorable opinion of him to 49% with an unfavorable one. They don't accept Romney as one of
their own either- only 34% consider him to be a Michigander to 57% who do not.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Romney is like Al Gore , losing his home state.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MI_9312.pdf

September 3, 2012
PPP's first likely voters poll in Michigan this year finds Barack Obama with a solid lead in the state, 51-44.

Michigan voters just don't embrace Romney. Only 45% have a favorable opinion of him to 49% with an unfavorable one. They don't accept Romney as one of
their own either- only 34% consider him to be a Michigander to 57% who do not.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this will only be the second time such an event has happened? Gore was the first I believe with Tennessee going to Bush in 2000.

 

[Gramps]

Correct me if I am wrong, but this will only be the second time such an event has happened? Gore was the first I believe with Tennessee going to Bush in 2000.

I have not done a search to be 100% sure but I believe Gore was the first to lose his own state.

 

[bam15]

Correct me if I am wrong, but this will only be the second time such an event has happened? Gore was the first I believe with Tennessee going to Bush in 2000.

No, McGovern in '72, and others. Lincoln, Wilson, Dewey and on.

 

[Gramps]

No, McGovern in '72, and others. Lincoln, Wilson, Dewey and on.

I forgot about McGovern in '72. Nixon won in a landslide.

didn't know about the others.

 

[82_VOL_83]

My new favorite is hypocrisy hypocrites. Personally I think the hypocrisy charge is so overdone since everyone is hypocritical about something.

So when I see people endlessly pointing out the hypocrisy of the other side while willfully ignoring the hypocrisy of their own side they are being hypocrisy hypocrites.

You just made that up didn't you!

 

[82_VOL_83]

I'm not watching either convention. Staged drama is boring if not on Broadway.

LG, I didn't watch/am not going to watch either one. This is probably the only thing you and I will agree on other than you avi is freaking HOT!

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Good Luck. Going to be tough when "America's Got Talent" and "Hells Kitchen" is beating them in ratings

That's because even those shows are better than either convention.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Did the RNC have one in 2008?

Yes, but it was much smaller.....only about half the size.

 

[PKT_VOL]

No, McGovern in '72, and others.

Ah. Didn't know that. Thank you.

Lincoln, Wilson, Dewey and on.

Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Thomas Dewey?

If so, you are wrong on all three accounts.