Official Jon Gruden Thread 37

[VOLsome]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.


If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.

This!!!
That's the playoff Shoop talked about haha 2-0 here we go!

 

[VolAllen]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:

• Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
• Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
• Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:

• Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
• Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
• As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
• I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:

• Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
• Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
• 3 leased vehicles.
• "Around 25" season tickets.
• Bonus of 1m.
• Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
• Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
• I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:

• Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
• Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
• Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
• When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
• Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:

• Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
• He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
• If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.
• Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
• As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
• Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:

• I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
• Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
• I have no reason to doubt them.

Boom?

 

[revjayp]

We need an Official Jon Gruden Break Room thread where the adults can go chat when the daily Hurricane storms crash into this thread.

Lets create it in some place where no one goes. Lady vol basketball? I kid, I kid...

 

[vols1221]

Like someone said before: Gruden won’t have to recruit, he’ll draft.

It would be a good recruiting method. Assistants set everything up. JG calls, and says hey son you’re my No.1 draft pick this year how’d you like to be a Vol?

 

[UTK]

We need an Official Jon Gruden Break Room thread where the adults can go chat when the daily Hurricane storms crash into this thread.

By adults you mean the ones that are so oblivious to the fact that they’re other good coaches other there besides Gruden and Patterson? lol

 

[VolinNooga14]

To me it’s very interesting that Tee had no interest in coaching with Butch not now he might be the hang up in the Gruden deal.

Serious question, why would Gruden want Tee Martin? I don’t doubt his abilities as an OC, but I doubt that he would be the tie that binds any coaching hire.

 

[LoudOrange]

Wonder how much Sexton paid Finebaum lol

What a joke

It is their Memphis brotherhood at work.

 

[Behr]

"Gruden thread is so stupit, I gotta go over thar an be a part of it"

 

[jhcrane14]

It’s Gameday...Go Vols.

Have a Grude day

 

[revjayp]

Eff it if Tee doesnt want it then let Kiffin be OC...at least he can recruit

Maybe Tuesday can/will shed some light on it but if head coach at UTEP or OC with Gruden are his options, I hope he chooses wisely. I get wanting to be a head coach but opportunities like this are rare. Hopefully he sees that too.

 

[Hawkpilot]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:

• Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
• Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
• Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:

• Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
• Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
• As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
• I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:

• Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
• Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
• 3 leased vehicles.
• "Around 25" season tickets.
• Bonus of 1m.
• Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
• Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
• I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:

• Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
• Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
• Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
• When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
• Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:

• Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
• He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
• If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.
• Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
• As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
• Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:

• I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
• Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
• I have no reason to doubt them.

Thanks OP! Today's my favorite day of the week...gameday!

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

Any new news on the Gruden front?

 

[volinSmyrna]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:

• Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
• Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
• Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:

• Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
• Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
• As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
• I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:

• Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
• Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
• 3 leased vehicles.
• "Around 25" season tickets.
• Bonus of 1m.
• Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
• Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
• I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:

• Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
• Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
• Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
• When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
• Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:

• Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
• He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
• If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.
• Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
• As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
• Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:

• I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
• Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
• I have no reason to doubt them.

Love the info Pill. I don't know if my heart can manage another week of this stuff.

 

[Jake]

Talk to knuck.

Roger that

 

[DownTheField]

If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.

never in a million years would this happen

 

[DougVol]

Only thing that scares me in all of this is Gruden not wanting to recruit hard himself.

Really

 

[Herman Hickman]

Every morning, Saban sees this in his toilet

I heard Coach Majors tried to rearrange his face during an interview on campus. I would've loved to seen that one on film.

The only thing this man has lost quicker than his hair is his sense of loyalty.

 

[VFL92]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:

• Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
• Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
• Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:

• Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
• Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
• As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
• I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:

• Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
• Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
• 3 leased vehicles.
• "Around 25" season tickets.
• Bonus of 1m.
• Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
• Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
• I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:

• Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
• Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
• Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
• When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
• Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:

• Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
• He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
• If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.
• Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
• As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
• Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:

• I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
• Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
• I have no reason to doubt them.

Wow. That's much more specific information than I've heard or than anyone else has reported. You're either VERY connected, or smart and have a lot of time on your hands. Thanks for sharing. I'll sit back and watch.

 

[volinSmyrna]

By adults you mean the ones that are so oblivious to the fact that they’re other good coaches other there besides Gruden and Patterson? lol

We're not oblivious to that fact. You seem to be oblivious to the fact that those coaches have their own threads to discuss there.

 

[Sstterry]

Eff it if Tee doesnt want it then let Kiffin be OC...at least he can recruit

Sorry NO :aggressive:

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Only thing that scares me in all of this is Gruden not wanting to recruit hard himself.

His name will recruit without him ever leaving Knoxville.

 

[SmokinBob]

He sent faceless tickets for the game, they are stuck with ups and she wouldn't get them before the game. He heard about it and got the AD to send her more. Somewhere in that neighborhood. Just being awesome is all. Nothing incognito in his message.

His kindness and the way so many rallied around faceless to help inspires me. I believe there are way more good people in this world than bad and you all are evidence of this!

 

[SandoVOL]

Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:

• Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
• Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
• Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:

• Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
• Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
• As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
• I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:

• Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
• Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
• 3 leased vehicles.
• "Around 25" season tickets.
• Bonus of 1m.
• Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
• Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
• I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:

• Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
• Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
• Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
• When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
• Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:

• Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
• He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
• If we somehow win the next 2 games he would coach in the bowl.
• Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
• As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
• Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:

• I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
• Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
• I have no reason to doubt them.

Im not sure how far down the rabbit hole you are right now, but you got any more of them orange pills?

 

[Cincy_Vol_Fan]

Really

He's not going to do any recruiting...like saban he will have people to do that. All he will do is go in at the end and shake a few hands and have a corona with the dad

 

[VOLsome]

Really

Not me... but honestly I can see him quickly being surprised by how much he loves it and will naturally and purposefully do it more than he thinks/wants atm.