Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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midtnvol2 said:
I know that is 99-100% true, but God I wish they would do it today, I think not only the fans but the players would get a lift out of it.
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You think the knowledge their coach has been fired would be good for the players? Do they hate Dooley that much?
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I thought so to. Doesn't really matter to me either way. The announcements would still be made, with the replacement starting around the SEC Championship game.
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Is there any realistic chance they make the announcement confirming his departure WITHOUT already having an agreement in principle with the successor? I know this issue has been discussed some a couple hundred pages ago and my recollection is the feeling was they would not cut him loose without a big fish already on the hook. Personally, while I don't think Dooley is the answer, I would also hate to be left scrambling for a coach again late in the year and would prefer leaving him in place a while longer to firing him without a replacement waiting in the wings.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
He knows....has known for a week. He's being allowed to decide how he goes out. He may coach out the season, or an interim could be named.
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That's stupid if it's true.

He should be fired today. Don't give him a chance to garner some support by beating some awful teams, even if the decision has already been made.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
You think the knowledge their coach has been fired would be good for the players? Do they hate Dooley that much?
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Given the players relationships with Dooley, along with other people in the admin, you might hear the cheers from Worlds Fair Park. I absolutely think we get a lift when he is let go, and that Chaney will do a respectable job at interim. I am not sure how much of our lack of success rests on Chaney. I think he has been hamstrung by Dooley since day 1.
 
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CourtJester said:
Is there any realistic chance they make the announcement confirming his departure WITHOUT already having an agreement in principle with the successor? I know this issue has been discussed some a couple hundred pages ago and my recollection is the feeling was they would not cut him loose without a big fish already on the hook. Personally, while I don't think Dooley is the answer, I would also hate to be left scrambling for a coach again late in the year and would prefer leaving him in place a while longer to firing him without a replacement waiting in the wings.
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Absolutely yes. He is gone, the HC search has nothing to do with this fact.
 
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CourtJester said:
Is there any realistic chance they make the announcement confirming his departure WITHOUT already having an agreement in principle with the successor? I know this issue has been discussed some a couple hundred pages ago and my recollection is the feeling was they would not cut him loose without a big fish already on the hook. Personally, while I don't think Dooley is the answer, I would also hate to be left scrambling for a coach again late in the year and would prefer leaving him in place a while longer to firing him without a replacement waiting in the wings.
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Chicken or the egg argument.

Gruden will not accept publicly while there is no job opening. I'd say they won't make a public announcement without some assurances.

Regardless....Dooley is gone and that is a fact.
 
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tvolsfan said:
That's stupid if it's true.

He should be fired today. Don't give him a chance to garner some support by beating some awful teams, even if the decision has already been made.
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That is exactly their thinking but will wait until next Monday. Big gamble though because USCe is beatable.
 
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cd12 said:
That is exactly their thinking but will wait until next Monday. Big gamble though because USCe is beatable.
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I dont feel this way. I think USCe is going be awfully mad and looking for dinner...Spurrier will not let a coach on his way out from the University he despises knock them down.

tvolsfan said:
But why not just do it today? What do they hope to gain?
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Nothing to gain, it is a timeline, a sequence of how things should be as laid out in an undisclosed plan...
 
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I think Hart should let MNF play out tonight and announce the firing tomorrow. This would allow more to be worked out over the next week before the next MNF.
 
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I like Dooley as a person and wanted him to do well but it just wasn't gonna happen. I wouldn't mind if we could win out the season to let Dooley and the university save a little face, and name Gruden HC during bowl break.
 
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SandoVOL said:
I like Dooley as a person and wanted him to do well but it just wasn't gonna happen. I wouldn't mind if we could win out the season to let Dooley and the university save a little face, and name Gruden HC during bowl break.
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I liked him too...felt he brought some class to us...but UT lost face after Kentucky last year...
 
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