Official Jon Gruden Thread V

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voldawgforever said:
But WAIT!! Boro said the decision has already been made! And Dooley has been told!! It's OVER!!


BUT WAIT!!
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Why are you on a witch hunt...... no judgement should ever be made until all the evidence is in...

that is just common sen... opps sorry about that "I forgot"
 
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voldawgforever said:
But WAIT!! Boro said the decision has already been made! And Dooley has been told!! It's OVER!!


BUT WAIT!!
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We have different information. I stand by mine.

You'll not see me backtrack anymore than you'll see me call out somebody else for their information.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah I am beginning to see these high scoring games that we keep losing as a crutch. The AD saying that a defensive coordinator will make the difference. They are fooling themselves. Dooleys recruited players aren't good enough and by looks of the players commited for next year. ughk! So the Mizzou comments make me think the AD is hoping that Dooley wins another shootout.
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It would make my day if Hart would just go ahead and announce Dooley fired today
 
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WTH happened in here today. Fact is, people have good sources, people have bad sources. Everybody brings what they hear to the "rumors and speculation" forum. If you disagree, do it respectfully. Guys like boro, dto, thrasher, sbv, etc. have been here awhile. They aren't trolling. We all want what's best for this program. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Even if it isn't Gruden, we will be a better team next year.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Okay - here is what I know:

There has been a lot of information circling about - so hopefully this will clear things up.

We will know a lot more about the direction we are headed next week. There are several things in play but the most immediate and visible would be Mizzou - a loss there could expedite a decision on Dooley.

The BOT meeting has significant impact on the future of football and athletics in general at UT.

There are three sides to what is happening right now regarding Dooley:

1: Boosters - they are ready and have been ready to let Dooley walk. They have the money and are willing to put up the buyout. They have the money and are willing to pay a big time coach. They have been working behind the scenes for a while now getting things set up to hand over to Hart.

2. Hart - He is in a tough spot. He is limited by what he can control. He has been a fan of Dooley's. I think he still is. But he is listening to the Boosters. He will not make a change without having a big name, proven guy to replace Dooley. This has been his stance all along. Are there scenarios where Dooley is retained? Yes, I now believe so.

3. Cheek/University side: This is where things recently got complicated. There are deep issues here that need to be resolved. The UT AD does not have autonomy and they need it. They need help from the admissions/academic side and they need to be in control of their earnings.

Now, let's circle back to Gruden. It was my belief and still is that an agreement had been reached. From what I understand now, this was only regarding years and money. Nothing formally was presented to him.

But since that time, there has been ongoing conversations and specific inquires to the control he would have, the control the AD would have and the issues between the AD and the University side were brought up. This is a major deterrent and from what I understand Gruden has cooled a bit.

Boosters - who are the ones that have orchestrated this whole thing behind the scenes are now realizing it's not just a money issue and even their power is limited because of the stronghold the university side has on the AD side.

So, that is what I understand as of today. There will be lots of questions and very few answers. It's honestly a mess.

We will know more next week.


And as a P.S. - I will not be around for a little while, so I am not just posting this and running. I will be back later today.
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If they are waiting on Missouri then I hope we lose by 3 TDs
 
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I hate liars. And I can't stand a fake. Why do people have to be fake leaders? Just sit at the table and play cards. You don't have to put on a show or anything. Just have fun.

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VolFan32 said:
WTH happened in here today. Fact is, people have good sources, people have bad sources. Everybody brings what they hear to the "rumors and speculation" forum. If you disagree, do it respectfully. Guys like boro, dto, thrasher, sbv, etc. have been here awhile. They aren't trolling. We all want what's best for this program. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Even if it isn't Gruden, we will be a better team next year.
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This^
 
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Coastypop said:
It would make my day if Hart would just go ahead and announce Dooley fired today
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Oh heck yeah I would say lets all meet up at locations within 30 minute drivetimes of one another and celebrate by eating some chicken wings and a Beer at the local Applebees!!!:)
 
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jbeard82 said:
Hey Sir!! Look at it from most adults point of view. You sound uneducated.

You: this guy skeeter is really knowledgeable about UT athletics and prolly has inside sources or is part of the staff some how to get all this great info!

Normal people: So does he have any knowledge about a coaching change or search?

You: Nah!!
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You talking about the same skeeter that said something about Dooley being fired within 48 hrs a couple of weeks ago ?
 
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