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LurtzVol109 said:
Well if you want to find fault in the government, you will do so. At the end of the day there is enough danger posed by big business owners with a need to cut corners to warrant some due diligence. Can you imagine what would happen if Microsoft or Apple plunged in todays society due to bad business practices? At some point, the numbers get too large to contain the ebbs and flows of a true FME. It's great when your building up your economy as a growing country, not to maintain lifespan over long periods of time. Human nature won't allow it.
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That's my point. Competition will take care of all the other gibberish you just mentioned so long as the government doesn't intervene and try to inlist asinine regulations and bureaucracies to impose its own agenda into the market. The reason we have companies that become too big to fail is because of the arbitrary strictures imposed by the federal government in the name of "fairness" or "equality" that enables the formation of monopolies in a sense.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
That's my point. Competition will take care of all the other gibberish you just mentioned so long as the government doesn't intervene and try to inlist asinine regulations and bureaucracies to impose its own agenda into the market. The reason we have companies that become too big to fail is because of the arbitrary strictures imposed by the federal government in the name of "fairness" or "equality" that enables the formation of monopolies in a sense.
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SamRebel35 said:
That's my point. Competition will take care of all the other gibberish you just mentioned so long as the government doesn't intervene and try to inlist asinine regulations and bureaucracies to impose its own agenda into the market. The reason we have companies that become too big to fail is because of the arbitrary strictures imposed by the federal government in the name of "fairness" or "equality" that enables the formation of monopolies in a sense.
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An interesting viewpoint for sure, but I fear that we are to far along a different path. Regulation is a powerful tool, but isn't always a bad thing. Should be used more as a safety net IMO.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
That's my point. Competition will take care of all the other gibberish you just mentioned so long as the government doesn't intervene and try to inlist asinine regulations and bureaucracies to impose its own agenda into the market. The reason we have companies that become too big to fail is because of the arbitrary strictures imposed by the federal government in the name of "fairness" or "equality" that enables the formation of monopolies in a sense.
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Are you for or against the Stock Market concept?
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
An interesting viewpoint for sure, but I fear that we are to far along a different path. Regulation is a powerful tool, but isn't always a bad thing. Should be used more as a safety net IMO.
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I think regulations are used too often. Taxes are much more useful and do much less in the way of collateral damage to the economy. I don't disagree that we are too far along. With the ever expanding role of government and their penchant for mandating altruism, I suspect that this republic will likely never see true free market capitalism again. That will ultimately lead to a slide into socialism, which always turns into tyranny. I'm a bit of a pessimist sometimes.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
Are you for or against the Stock Market concept?
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Interesting question. The new york stock exchange is the only example that I can think of a true monopoly that wasn't caused by government intervention. Generally speaking, I am for the concept, but it has its faults too.
 
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Well, it's dying down in here a little. I think I'm gonna hop off. You all enjoy the rest of your night! See you around.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I think regulations are used too often. Taxes are much more useful and do much less in the way of collateral damage to the economy. I don't disagree that we are too far along. With the ever expanding role of government and their penchant for mandating altruism, I suspect that this republic will likely never see true free market capitalism again. That will ultimately lead to a slide into socialism, which always turns into tyranny. I'm a bit of a pessimist sometimes.
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It's always the challenge anymore of finding perfect economical balance (pure socialism) and preventing the development of an all powerful entity. Nations fall simply because they go a long time without the right people in power making the right decisions in critical times. Rome, the Holy Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire, the Mongolian Empire, every Chinese Dynasty. Its the inevitability of man. In fact, just one look at the German people is testament to this truth. We are now in a state of economical management. I could fix the economy back into a state of growth in three steps.
 
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I'm out guys. Thanks for bull****ing with me. I may be back, ya'll got a good group here.

Peace Out.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Interesting question. The new york stock exchange is the only example that I can think of a true monopoly that wasn't caused by government intervention. Generally speaking, I am for the concept, but it has its faults too.
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The Stock Market in and of itself is the doom of the true FME. By allowing common man easy access to the information given in the SM, you doom your FME to eventual regulation when it crashes in on itself, an inevitability with the Stock Market itself. The crash of 1929 wasn't so much a single happening, it was that once the selling started and people noticed the stocks dropping, everyone sold and crashed the market. No one bought because everyone knew the outcome. Competition is defeated. Once you introduce the SM, you then subsequently doom yourself to required regulation.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
It's always the challenge anymore of finding perfect economical balance (pure socialism) and preventing the development of an all powerful entity. Nations fall simply because they go a long time without the right people in power making the right decisions in critical times. Rome, the Holy Roman Empire, the Spanish Empire, the Mongolian Empire, every Chinese Dynasty. Its the inevitability of man. In fact, just one look at the German people is testament to this truth. We are now in a state of economical management. I could fix the economy back into a state of growth in three steps.
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Nations don't fail because they go without good leadership, nations fail because they become dependent on centralized power as a means to manage every aspect of everybody's lives. And I'm sorry, but any form of managing the economy that involves coercion or discourages competition will always necessarily lead to tyranny. The only thing that is necessary to maintain a healthy fme is true competition and the individual's freedom to choose what they want.
 
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