OFFICIAL Statistics - Jon Gruden Thread(s)

#28
#28
Blackmarket803 said:
Not many coaches can continue winning with aging players, no draft picks, and salary cap hits...

Fact is, Dungy couldn't get it done. Gruden did in 1 year. Have you ever stopped to think during every offseason why numerous teams have tried to court him?
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he got it done, then he drove it into the crapper.

Good coaches overcome objections. If he was as good as you think he would have had a better record as well as more than 2 playoff appearances which were also lost.

One hit wonders wont cut it in the SEC.
 
#29
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howie87 said:
Prove me wrong breh... I await a response sure to be riddled with emotional observations and logical fallacies, having reason thrown out the window and being founded nowhere within the realm of what could be considered a logical thought process...

Entertain me.
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But....but Gruden...and sources...and..and Erik Ainge...
 
#32
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GreveHaller said:
he got it done, then he drove it into the crapper.

Good coaches overcome objections. If he was as good as you think he would have had a better record as well as more than 2 playoff appearances which were also lost.

One hit wonders wont cut it in the SEC.
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Players got old, didn't have the picks or cap room to replace them, that's what drove them down the crapper. Even good coaches aren't involved in lopsided trades like that.
 
#33
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Stoked4Zo said:
And Gruden wouldn't have better players here too?
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And Patterson wouldn't have better players too??? See what I can do...

Okay... You seem like a nice guy... but I'm going to put you on ignore now because you also seem like a stupid factory... If there was ever a definition of a guy who just didn't "get it", look in the nearest mirror...
 
#35
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howie87 said:
I'm not sure if people aren't understanding me, or if there are just a lot of people in here whose work day consists of asking me if I want fries with me burger...

A BCS win and a Superbowl win are at least comparable for the sake of conversation... You can lose 6 games and win the Superbowl, you lose two college games and you're probably out of getting into a BCS bowl...
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Your condescending tone comes off as pompous and has been used here numerous times.

If you think it makes you sound clever, or smarter than others, then you are sadly mistaken. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
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#36
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howie87 said:
And Patterson wouldn't have better players too??? See what I can do...

Okay... You seem like a nice guy... but I'm going to put you on ignore now because you also seem like a stupid factory... If there was ever a definition of a guy who just didn't "get it", look in the nearest mirror...
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Gruden would definitely bring in better players than Patterson.... smdh dude....
 
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Orlando Vol said:
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Nice work. Sorry for all the losers left out of the Gruden threads. When this goes down you will have totally missed one of the most fun rides at UT in a long time. It is ok though. Your first consolation prize, even though you do not deserve one, you know who you are, is a top ten recruiting class. There will be more to come.
 
#38
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brianlsanders said:
Your condescending tone comes off as pompous and has been used here numerous times.

If you think it makes you sound clever, or smarter than others, then you are sadly mistaken. May God have mercy on your soul.
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I don't think that at all... And I would never hold up a banner that says I'm smarter than other people, that's fairly poor social behavior... but since you brought it up, I am smarter than other people... Unless you have an IQ higher than the mid 160s... which some people do, but based on your emotional response and personal offense taken to how I speak, you're probably not one of them...
 
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howie87 said:
I don't think that at all... And I would never hold up a banner that says I'm smarter than other people, that's fairly poor social behavior... but since you brought it up, I am smarter than other people... Unless you have an IQ higher than the mid 160s... which some people do, but based on your emotional response and personal offense taken to how I speak, you're probably not one of them...
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Dooley is that you?
 
#42
#42
howie87 said:
The fact Gruden won a Superbowl with a team that has at least 4, probably 6, hall of fame players on it speaks more to the marginal quality of human Tony Dungy is than to Gruden's success... For the record gruden won 12 games his first year in Tampa and 12 the next two... Then won 11 on the strength of a last place schedule and immediately went back to 4 wins the next season when the schedule toughened up...
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Who did Gruden play against in the Super Bowl? Yeah his old team. How many other coaches can say they had a hand in taking 2 teams to the Super Bowl in the same year?
 
#43
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howie87 said:
I don't think that at all... And I would never hold up a banner that says I'm smarter than other people, that's fairly poor social behavior... but since you brought it up, I am smarter than other people... Unless you have an IQ higher than the mid 160s... which some people do, but based on your emotional response and personal offense taken to how I speak, you're probably not one of them...
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But the thing is.......you do. The way you respond to other posters advertises it. As far as my emotional response, I could give two sh!ts. I was just pointing out you come off as a pompous jerkoff. No one cares about your IQ either.
 
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Donger said:
Who did Gruden play against in the Super Bowl? Yeah his old team. How many other coaches can say they had a hand in taking 2 teams to the Super Bowl in the same year?
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Can't be serious... Why couldn't they get there with Gruden???
 
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brianlsanders said:
But the thing is.......you do. The way you respond to other posters advertises it. As far as my emotional response, I could give two sh!ts. I was just pointing out you come off as a pompous jerkoff. No one cares about your IQ either.
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I was just adding to a subject you started a conversation on and clarifying any misinformation you might have concluded... How I "come off" to people over the internet isn't going to keep me awake tonight, but it troubled you enough to say something about it... I hope it gets better for you...
 
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howie87 said:
I was just adding to a subject you started a conversation on and clarifying any misinformation you might have concluded... How I "come off" to people over the internet isn't going to keep me awake tonight, but it troubled you enough to say something about it... I hope it gets better for you...
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Listen dude..... I get along with most everyone on here, but you felt the need to insult almost everyone you responded to. I called you out. Post less often.

Also, I didn't start the conversation. Like I said, post less often.
 
#50
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howie87 said:
I don't think that at all... And I would never hold up a banner that says I'm smarter than other people, that's fairly poor social behavior... but since you brought it up, I am smarter than other people... Unless you have an IQ higher than the mid 160s... which some people do, but based on your emotional response and personal offense taken to how I speak, you're probably not one of them...
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People with IQs in the 160s do not have comparable writing skills to those of 12 year olds.
 
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