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#201
#201
BearCat204 said:
Have you played ED in the last couple of years? I am curious of its status now and thought about getting back into it. I tried to play star citizen and its just way too clunky for me.
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It’s definitely been a while back before the Odyssey DLC came out. Just got caught up in other games and haven’t been back. I haven’t tried SC, but that’s what I have heard. Clunky and annoying. Have you played the Odyssey DLC?
 
#202
#202
LouderVol said:
I am worried about it being one of those million miles wide, 1 foot deep type games. They are seemingly offering more things to do than previous Bethseda games, which is a plus. But what made those games great was their depth, story telling, character interactions and the like. Didn't get a great feel for the depth from that incredible break down.

One thing I have yet to see is any real antagonist or real central quest that is going to have a gripping storyline. If its just looking for these old space relics for some far off promised future, its 100% going to be a case of exploring all 1000 worlds before doing the storyline. IMO there needs to be a bad guy, or a reason for the player to care about finding these things beyond "they are cool".
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Yeah, I did notice they haven’t really given away who the antagonist party is. Whether it is a single person or a group remains to be seen. The stories look to be there after watching that deep dive video with all of the factions and random people with side quests and what-not. But, like you said, no mention of any antagonist which can make the game feel less deep and more just “go have fun and do what you want” type of sandbox game. They did seem to say the “go have fun” mantra a lot in that video. But that would be weird given that Bethesda likes their story telling. Would be very odd if they didn’t have a great story at the heart of the game especially one they have been wanting to make for 25 years (according to Todd).
 
#203
#203
zhangliao04 said:
Yeah, I did notice they haven’t really given away who the antagonist party is. Whether it is a single person or a group remains to be seen. The stories look to be there after watching that deep dive video with all of the factions and random people with side quests and what-not. But, like you said, no mention of any antagonist which can make the game feel less deep and more just “go have fun and do what you want” type of sandbox game. They did seem to say the “go have fun” mantra a lot in that video. But that would be weird given that Bethesda likes their story telling. Would be very odd if they didn’t have a great story at the heart of the game especially one they have been wanting to make for 25 years (according to Todd).
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yeah, someone trying to rip a hole in reality, or let the interdimensional aliens thru, or just needing to kill the player to collect whatever space magic powers we get from the relic/thing. something like that would go a long way.

Some small things were really exciting to me. Them claiming the characters will be able to say your name would be cool as hades. I have no idea how they would pull that off, unless there is a limited number of options. unless there was some crazy phonetic work you could do.

"Commander Bigus Dickus"
 
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#204
#204
zhangliao04 said:
It’s definitely been a while back before the Odyssey DLC came out. Just got caught up in other games and haven’t been back. I haven’t tried SC, but that’s what I have heard. Clunky and annoying. Have you played the Odyssey DLC?
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I have not played the Odyssey DLC
 
#205
#205
LouderVol said:
yeah, someone trying to rip a hole in reality, or let the interdimensional aliens thru, or just needing to kill the player to collect whatever space magic powers we get from the relic/thing. something like that would go a long way.

Some small things were really exciting to me. Them claiming the characters will be able to say your name would be cool as hades. I have no idea how they would pull that off, unless there is a limited number of options. unless there was some crazy phonetic work you could do.

"Commander Bigus Dickus"
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Yeah so many laughs are going to come from that lol. But I agree I thought that was pretty cool to be able to hear your name from the NPC’s. There will also be a lot of….interesting ship builds coming from this, too I bet lol.
 
#207
#207
zhangliao04 said:
Yeah so many laughs are going to come from that lol. But I agree I thought that was pretty cool to be able to hear your name from the NPC’s. There will also be a lot of….interesting ship builds coming from this, too I bet lol.
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yeah the mech idea made me chuckle. I do hope you can actually traverse your ship on the inside.

I definitely have some ideas I want to give a try. definitely going to be role playing.
 
#208
#208
LouderVol said:
yeah the mech idea made me chuckle. I do hope you can actually traverse your ship on the inside.

I definitely have some ideas I want to give a try. definitely going to be role playing.
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That would be really nice if the way you built your ship on the outside transferred to how you traversed your ship on the inside. It only makes sense lol.

The mech looked like it was struggling a bit hah
 
#209
#209
zhangliao04 said:
That would be really nice if the way you built your ship on the outside transferred to how you traversed your ship on the inside. It only makes sense lol.

The mech looked like it was struggling a bit hah
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yeah, that would be another good feature. Have your flight characteristics set by the geometry of your build. I will be curious to see if the atmospheric flight is different than space flight. It should be, but that seems like a huge mechanic to work out, especially with the tons of build options.
 
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#212
#212
BearCat204 said:
I’m still disappointed at 60 fps lol :)
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For an open world game like this that isn't focused on the combat so much I don't think it will be an issue. I don't think you are going to notice a difference between 60fps and 120fps when looking out at the scenery.
 
#213
#213
LouderVol said:
For an open world game like this that isn't focused on the combat so much I don't think it will be an issue. I don't think you are going to notice a difference between 60fps and 120fps when looking out at the scenery.
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I'm a self important 4090 owner bruh. I want my frames lol.
 
#214
#214
LouderVol said:
you console peasants are getting what you deserve.

Starfield will support native 4K and 60fps after all, just not on Xbox

"Yet, it seems that only Starfield players on console will be locked at 30fps, unlike PC gamers. As reported by DSOgaming, the PC version of Starfield will support native 4K resolution and 60fps"
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Gawd you opened a can of worms with that first sentence lol

Nobody can deny the outrageous GPU prices even though they have fallen far from where they used to be with the 3000 series.
 
#216
#216
zhangliao04 said:
Gawd you opened a can of worms with that first sentence lol

Nobody can deny the outrageous GPU prices even though they have fallen far from where they used to be with the 3000 series.
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I am just always amused by people who on and on about the graphics of a game and they are running it on an Atari. If they actually cared they would invest.
If you want bigger, better, prettier games you naturally need bigger, better hardware to generate it. And unless you are ok with games stagnating, it's always going to be increasing.
 
#217
#217
LouderVol said:
I am just always amused by people who on and on about the graphics of a game and they are running it on an Atari. If they actually cared they would invest.
If you want bigger, better, prettier games you naturally need bigger, better hardware to generate it. And unless you are ok with games stagnating, it's always going to be increasing.
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Absolutely. Games will continue to get more graphically intense/better and nothing is going to stop that. You can’t upgrade the internals of a console like you can a PC. So there is going to be trade off at some point. But the gray area is price and what people are willing to give for those pretty graphics. People have already shown RT is not a big deal. They want FPS. 1080 is still the most used resolution used by far. I think what you are saying is fine, but to blanket statement that on everyone with these GPU prices is off. People can do what they want with their money, they have to live with their choices just like me (still running a 1070). But I look at the newest 4070 and look at it as a GPU that could easily sell for the same price the 1070 did when it came out and make NVidia money. Heck, NV initially was going to sell the TI as a 4080! Hah, and the now 4070 would have been the TI barely beating out the 3080 in some games while losing in others (overall losing to the 3080). And quite a few top YouTubers have been saying these new cards are just money grabs. Yeah sure they give you want you want, but their gripe is the price and that the perf/$ has lot gotten any better.

Personally, I think those games like Control and Cyberpunk that take a 4090 to get anywhere near the fps people like is just ridiculous. Another reason I didn’t play that messed up game. I personally play in the 1440 resolution pool because it looks from both worlds. We shall see if I make a jump to a new card.
 
#218
#218
zhangliao04 said:
Absolutely. Games will continue to get more graphically intense/better and nothing is going to stop that. You can’t upgrade the internals of a console like you can a PC. So there is going to be trade off at some point. But the gray area is price and what people are willing to give for those pretty graphics. People have already shown RT is not a big deal. They want FPS. 1080 is still the most used resolution used by far. I think what you are saying is fine, but to blanket statement that on everyone with these GPU prices is off. People can do what they want with their money, they have to live with their choices just like me (still running a 1070). But I look at the newest 4070 and look at it as a GPU that could easily sell for the same price the 1070 did when it came out and make NVidia money. Heck, NV initially was going to sell the TI as a 4080! Hah, and the now 4070 would have been the TI barely beating out the 3080 in some games while losing in others (overall losing to the 3080). And quite a few top YouTubers have been saying these new cards are just money grabs. Yeah sure they give you want you want, but their gripe is the price and that the perf/$ has lot gotten any better.

Personally, I think those games like Control and Cyberpunk that take a 4090 to get anywhere near the fps people like is just ridiculous. Another reason I didn’t play that messed up game. I personally play in the 1440 resolution pool because it looks from both worlds. We shall see if I make a jump to a new card.
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oh I agree people should absolutely do what is best for them with their money. I definitely don't espouse upgrading every time Nvidia reconfigures the LEDs on their GPU. I upgrade once every 4/5 years, I get the absolute best I can, and so far I have been able to run everything that comes out at a level where I at least don't notice a problem. The tradeoff for me with a PC/Laptop is I can do a lot more with it than I can with a console. Especially when you have some things like the Steam deck that come out with better graphics than a good number of consoles, and you can carry that in your hand.

Like I said, I just get amused by the people who talk a big graphics game, and then run it on a console. I don't sit around and complain about the price of my rig vs a console, because I have made my decision and that is the tradeoff. So I don't see why people who chose the price side of things should be sitting around complaining about graphics.

Cyberpunk is a perfect example, 80% of the issues of that game was trying to make it backwards compatible for consoles. They literally had to make the game worse, on top of all their other issues, to make sure consoles would play it. I don't see that as a good thing for the industry, or gamers. I had to wait longer, for a worse game, and I had pretty much zero of the issues that plagued a lot of people. Why? Because my rig could handle it. if we had developers that focused on making good games, or at least games as good as they could be. instead of trying to squeeze the most money out of a game they can by making sure an Xbox 1 can run they game; we wouldn't have the issues of games requiring a day 1 patch, or big graphical glitches.
 
#219
#219
LouderVol said:
oh I agree people should absolutely do what is best for them with their money. I definitely don't espouse upgrading every time Nvidia reconfigures the LEDs on their GPU. I upgrade once every 4/5 years, I get the absolute best I can, and so far I have been able to run everything that comes out at a level where I at least don't notice a problem. The tradeoff for me with a PC/Laptop is I can do a lot more with it than I can with a console. Especially when you have some things like the Steam deck that come out with better graphics than a good number of consoles, and you can carry that in your hand.

Like I said, I just get amused by the people who talk a big graphics game, and then run it on a console. I don't sit around and complain about the price of my rig vs a console, because I have made my decision and that is the tradeoff. So I don't see why people who chose the price side of things should be sitting around complaining about graphics.

Cyberpunk is a perfect example, 80% of the issues of that game was trying to make it backwards compatible for consoles. They literally had to make the game worse, on top of all their other issues, to make sure consoles would play it. I don't see that as a good thing for the industry, or gamers. I had to wait longer, for a worse game, and I had pretty much zero of the issues that plagued a lot of people. Why? Because my rig could handle it. if we had developers that focused on making good games, or at least games as good as they could be. instead of trying to squeeze the most money out of a game they can by making sure an Xbox 1 can run they game; we wouldn't have the issues of games requiring a day 1 patch, or big graphical glitches.
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It’s sad, ain’t it? Gaming used to be a fun area that wasn’t all puffed up and bloated with all of the stuff you see today. Maybe it’s because I’m getting old hah
 
#221
#221
zhangliao04 said:
It’s sad, ain’t it? Gaming used to be a fun area that wasn’t all puffed up and bloated with all of the stuff you see today. Maybe it’s because I’m getting old hah
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I think a higher up at CDPR (iirc) said that there’s an extreme amount of bloat in budgets for video games right now and there will be a crash sooner rather than later. He implied it won’t be 1982 catastrophic, but it’ll probably be the biggest market correction since then.

I welcome it. The post-“gamergate” era narratives in games are so stale and predictable. Once they cut these people working there that seemingly hate video games and the core audience they’re trying to sell to, the games will be great again… even if lower budget.
 
#223
#223
So a few months ago, I joined the XBOX family due to the quest of finding a ps5 around my parts was difficult. I've been a Sony guy forever, but I decided to opt for the XBOX. My question to long time users is: Does the ultimate game pass get any better at points? I do enjoy the day one releases (MLB The Show specifically) The EA Sports deals as well, but it seems the like the time I've had it, they don't really put a ton of good games on there. It seems like Sony's game pass has a ton of titles that I would expect XBOX to put it. I do apologize in advance because I am more of a sports game guy.
 
#224
#224
NO SIR EEE said:
So a few months ago, I joined the XBOX family due to the quest of finding a ps5 around my parts was difficult. I've been a Sony guy forever, but I decided to opt for the XBOX. My question to long time users is: Does the ultimate game pass get any better at points? I do enjoy the day one releases (MLB The Show specifically) The EA Sports deals as well, but it seems the like the time I've had it, they don't really put a ton of good games on there. It seems like Sony's game pass has a ton of titles that I would expect XBOX to put it. I do apologize in advance because I am more of a sports game guy.
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If you're mainly a sports game guy you'll probably be disappointed with game pass. Like you said The Show is really the only one they put on there. Madden will be on game pass but not until like 3 months after release. There are some pretty good games coming up though, I'm most excited for Starfield.
 
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#225
#225
K-town Vol Fan said:
If you're mainly a sports game guy you'll probably be disappointed with game pass. Like you said The Show is really the only one they put on there. Madden will be on game pass but not until like 3 months after release. There are some pretty good games coming up though, I'm most excited for Starfield.
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Yeah I heard about Starfield and will def check that out. I just thought it was kinda weird that Sony seems to throw more games on their pass and a lot at a time. Multiple sports titles.
 
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