Ohio State President - Boise, TCU not worthy

#178
#178
Volfan76 said:
Kid, you are from Boise and obviously a homer with an agenda. I seem to remember reading that Boise St had zero significant injuries in the 07 fiesta bowl compared to I think it was 7 major injuries in the 2 deep to oklahoma? I'm not going to waste time researching links to satisfy some biased kid with an agenda. If you want to make a legitimate argument, I will oblige you, but i'm not going to do research cause you called my legitimate post bs. take of the blinders..boise st is scared to play legit competition or they would.
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Boise State is not scared to play legit competition, they just can't reach amicable agreements most of the time. Here are the roadblocks, IMO:

#1-Home & Home Agreement

Most out of conference games include a home game for each school. How many "big" schools have ever agreed to play in Boise? Oregon for certain, maybe Oregon State. Other than that, there haven't been many. This ties in to roadblock....

#2-Money

Boise State, just like any other program/university, relies on football revenue to support the entire athletic department. Fewer home games= less revenue. That's why when Nebraska doesn't want to do a home & home, Boise State wants $1 million to travel to Lincoln. Which ties in to roadblock.....

#3-It's a lose/lose situation, particularly for the "other" school

Let's look at this season. Boise State and Virginia Tech played a neutral site game, but basically a home game for the Hokies. If the Hokies would have beaten Boise, would they have been lauded as being a top-flight team? Hardly. "You were supposed to beat Boise State" would have been the sentiment. They would have gotten almost zero credit for winning a game that they "should have won". But, they lost and dropped substantially in the polls, even though Boise was ranked in the top 10 as well. I guarantee you if everything about that game was the same, except you substitute a traditional football power (Texas, Florida, Alabama, etc.)
for Boise, the Hokies would not have fallen as far, and would have gotten credit for playing a top team very close. Forgive my long-windedness there, but where does it benefit Virginia Tech (or anyone for that matter) to schedule Boise State when the consequences for losing far outweigh the benefits of winning? Which ties back in to my initial roadblock #1

Boise State's situation isn't entirely different from that of Appalachian State after they beat Michigan a couple of years ago. They went to Michigan to pick up a paycheck and provide a scrimmage opponent for Big Blue. Of course, we all know how that turned out, and then big schools were scared to schedule Appalachian because there was nothing to gain, and potentially a whole lot to lose.

As far as Ohio State's president is concerned, I hope the Buckeyes get matched up against TCU or Boise and get absolutely throttled.
 
#179
#179
tvolsfan said:
There's a reason the regular season in college football is much more intense than the regular season in the NFL and in NCAA basketball. The NFL also has 32 teams and it's much more competitive throughout. It's much harder to look and find the best team after the regular season.

I'm not sure why Boise would want a playoff, to be honest. I personally think they have a better shot waiting for a year like this one and possibly snagging a title than going through a playoff.
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For Boise, I don't think it's just about the title. They want the respect as well, which they will never get under the current setup.
 
#180
#180
tvolsfan said:
On a yearly basis, their schedules are vastly more difficult than Boise's schedule. I definitely think OSU would be 10-0 with Boise's schedule right now.
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And I think that Boise would be undefeated against Ohio State's schedule this year.
 
#181
#181
Regulator said:
Boise State is not scared to play legit competition, they just can't reach amicable agreements most of the time. Here are the roadblocks, IMO:

#1-Home & Home Agreement

Most out of conference games include a home game for each school. How many "big" schools have ever agreed to play in Boise? Oregon for certain, maybe Oregon State. Other than that, there haven't been many. This ties in to roadblock....

#2-Money

Boise State, just like any other program/university, relies on football revenue to support the entire athletic department. Fewer home games= less revenue. That's why when Nebraska doesn't want to do a home & home, Boise State wants $1 million to travel to Lincoln. Which ties in to roadblock.....

#3-It's a lose/lose situation, particularly for the "other" school

Let's look at this season. Boise State and Virginia Tech played a neutral site game, but basically a home game for the Hokies. If the Hokies would have beaten Boise, would they have been lauded as being a top-flight team? Hardly. "You were supposed to beat Boise State" would have been the sentiment. They would have gotten almost zero credit for winning a game that they "should have won". But, they lost and dropped substantially in the polls, even though Boise was ranked in the top 10 as well. I guarantee you if everything about that game was the same, except you substitute a traditional football power (Texas, Florida, Alabama, etc.)
for Boise, the Hokies would not have fallen as far, and would have gotten credit for playing a top team very close. Forgive my long-windedness there, but where does it benefit Virginia Tech (or anyone for that matter) to schedule Boise State when the consequences for losing far outweigh the benefits of winning? Which ties back in to my initial roadblock #1

Boise State's situation isn't entirely different from that of Appalachian State after they beat Michigan a couple of years ago. They went to Michigan to pick up a paycheck and provide a scrimmage opponent for Big Blue. Of course, we all know how that turned out, and then big schools were scared to schedule Appalachian because there was nothing to gain, and potentially a whole lot to lose.

As far as Ohio State's president is concerned, I hope the Buckeyes get matched up against TCU or Boise and get absolutely throttled.
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would be a nice touch of Irony for OSU to play Boise
 
#182
#182
Regulator said:
For Boise, I don't think it's just about the title. They want the respect as well, which they will never get under the current setup.
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Respect is fine and its admirable but dont claim no one will play you when you're asking price is $1 million. If no one will play you then maybe drop your price. Are there no micro economics classes at BSU?

UTMartin at $350,000 or Boise at $1 million. Lets ask Mike '$4 million surplus' Hamilton which one he'd rather play.
 
#183
#183
GreveHaller said:
Respect is fine and its admirable but dont claim no one will play you when you're asking price is $1 million. If no one will play you then maybe drop your price. Are there no micro economics classes at BSU?

UTMartin at $350,000 or Boise at $1 million. Lets ask Mike '$4 million surplus' Hamilton which one he'd rather play.
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If that is the way scheduling really works in CFB, explain why Ohio St is paying Colorado $1.4 million, Bama is paying Kent St $1.2 million, and Louisiana-Monroe regularly pulls in $1 miilion for a one and done?
 
#185
#185
Regulator said:
For Boise, I don't think it's just about the title. They want the respect as well, which they will never get under the current setup.
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Maybe so, but it's much more likely they get that title under this system. 2007 LSU may not have as much respect as the 2004 Auburn team, but who cares? National title beats no national title.
 
#186
#186
Oh, hai guys! Im the kicker for the Broncos. Whats this green colored turf that keep messing with my head every time i try and kick chip shot field goals?.., lol. See ya at the Holiday Bowl!
 
#187
#187
wounded mullet said:
Oh, hai guys! Im the kicker for the Broncos. Whats this green colored turf that keep messing with my head every time i try and kick chip shot field goals?.., lol. See ya at the Holiday Bowl!
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The Holiday is much better than wherever they are gonna end up.
 
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