OK State Hostess Scandal

#51
#51
Hoosier_Vol said:
So if a recruit "just happens" to meet a more than willing girl on his visit it's against NCAA rules?
Click to expand...

rmsmith said:
What's the big deal. High School kids have sex all the time. But if they have it with a college student while on an official visit to university it's suddenly against the rules?
Click to expand...

That's not what's being alleged. These particular college girls are members of an organization whose primary purpose is to assist in the recruiting process. These aren't random college girls, they are employees of the university, specifically the athletic department. If what is being alleged it true, then this behavior is nothing other than prostitution.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#53
#53
bamawriter said:
That's not what's being alleged. These particular college girls are members of an organization whose primary purpose is to assist in the recruiting process. These aren't random college girls, they are employees of the university, specifically the athletic department. If what is being alleged it true, then this behavior is nothing other than prostitution.
Click to expand...
The NCAA is going to slam Tulsa hard over this.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#57
#57
The way that Gundy has mugged for other jobs over the years, it wouldn't be too surprising to see T Boone chit can him and rescue Petrino from purgatory. Bobby's had success in that neck of the woods and the players are there to run his system.
 
#58
#58
Gundy pimped himself out enough to get a raise just over a year ago. Now, is he really willing to leave his alma mater? I'm not sure. He reminds me of an older Kingsbury.
 
#59
#59
bamawriter said:
Sex with recruits is still off limits, no matter where it happens. And I gather that SI is accusing OSU's hostesses of that very thing.
Click to expand...

TXA&M07 said:
Essentially prostituting out a specific group designed to serve as ambassadors to recruits is against the law regardless of where the action takes place.

To say, "If on campus, it's all good" is an embarrassingly ignorant comment.
Click to expand...

Sarcasm comments are too hard to grasp for the embarrassingly ignorant.

And big thanks for explaining the rules on that Mr. Obvious.
 
#60
#60
Orange Bison said:
Sarcasm comments are too hard to grasp for the embarrassingly ignorant.

And big thanks for explaining the rules on that Mr. Obvious.
Click to expand...

Given the rationalizing that some posters did regarding similar activity in Knoxville, you'll have to forgive me for not catching the sarcasm.
 
#62
#62
Well, seems like more info is coming out, this is an extension of the Mathieu investigation they were doing last year and they were hounding his parents, trying to get them to say things that were not true. When they were unable get anything on Les at LSU last year, they moved to OK. I have been told the majority of the players that are mentioned are players that were dismissed from the team. Multiple players and even the stars of the team, have come out and said they were never paid.

Does this mean it's not true? Not necessarily, the article/s seems to focus on Les Miles but at no time does anyone make an allegation that Les was involved or knew anything about any of this, even if true, or even any proof that he turned a blind eye. No mention that Les found out that there was pay to play scheme at LSU involving Akeim Hicks and self-reported.... and us in the know, know exactly why Perriloux was kicked off the team.

Now I do see where they have allegations as to two assistant coaches including Porter who was at LSU at one time. My guess, nobody wants to provide anything as to Les Miles as he probably has $20+ million to sue people for slander.

Tyrann Mathieu, parents blast Sports Illustrated - FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports
 
#63
#63
bamawriter said:
That's not what's being alleged. These particular college girls are members of an organization whose primary purpose is to assist in the recruiting process. These aren't random college girls, they are employees of the university, specifically the athletic department. If what is being alleged it true, then this behavior is nothing other than prostitution.
Click to expand...
They're on salary? I thought it was voluntary.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#65
#65
I would not be surprised by multiple lawsuits at this point, on ESPN radio a guest host called Les Miles a fraud, I have gotten this 2nd hand so I did not hear it, and he accused LSU of violating rules.

Will at the same time another ESPN writer is slamming the SI writer. ESPN might want to inform Dan Dakich that the radio does not give you permission to slander someone and an university.

Sports Extra - Blogs - Jason Whitlock slams SI writer Thayer Evans | Tulsa World

:popcorn:
 
#66
#66
Wow! This went viral quick.

Jacob Hester ?@JacobHester22 1m
Just heard a very unprofessional interview on Espn radio. @dandakich don't pretend you know Les Miles. Calling him a cheater? Bush league.
 
#67
#67
“But then in addition to that, having worked with Thayer Evans at Fox Sports, having followed his work for some time, I am completely and utterly flabbergasted that a legitimate news outlet would allow Thayer Evans to be involved in some type of investigative piece on college football that tears down a program, and particularly one that tears down Oklahoma State when it is no secret what a huge, enormous, gigantic Oklahoma homer Thayer Evans is. This is just incredible. Knowing the lack of competence that’s there with Thayer Evans, knowing the level of simplemindedness that’s there with Thayer Evans, to base any part of the story on his reporting is mind-boggling."

That is a classic quote from Whitlock. Evans and Thamel are complete jokes. They're constantly chasing rabbits with these type of stories and they rarely turn into anything. It amazes me these two haven't been sued yet.
 
#68
#68
bowlinggreenvol said:
That is a classic quote from Whitlock. Evans and Thamel are complete jokes. They're constantly chasing rabbits with these type of stories and they rarely turn into anything. It amazes me these two haven't been sued yet.
Click to expand...

I'm not defending Evans, but Whitlock has no credibility either. He's spent the last 7 years doing little more than slamming ESPN at every opportunity, and now he's back on the payroll.
 
#69
#69
LSU-SIU said:
ESPN might want to inform Dan Dakich that the radio does not give you permission to slander someone and an university.
Click to expand...

You and I have had a similar conversation in the past, so I won't belabor the point too much...

...but you need to realize how high the standard is to prove slander against a public figure.
 
#70
#70
bamawriter said:
You and I have had a similar conversation in the past, so I won't belabor the point too much...

...but you need to realize how high the standard is to prove slander against a public figure.
Click to expand...

It's not high at all when you say the person is committing fraud and you don't even know the person. :) I guess the guy was overboard so much so that people are calling LSU to let them know. Not your normal slam. And against a guy that is high salary.... not a good idea. SI actually does not accuse Les of anything for obvious reasons.
 
Last edited:
#71
#71
LSU-SIU said:
It's not high at all when you say the person is committing fraud and you don't even know the person. :) I guess the guy was overboard so much so that people are calling LSU to let them know. Not your normal slam. And against a guy that is high salary.... not a good idea. SI actually does not accuse Les of anything for obvious reasons.
Click to expand...

Key words: PUBLIC FIGURE. Not knowing someone personally does not make any negative statement about that person slanderous.
 
#72
#72
bamawriter said:
Key words: PUBLIC FIGURE. Not knowing someone personally does not make any negative statement about that person slanderous.
Click to expand...

A negative comment is no big deal in my book, but when you say something as a FACT, than that is very easy to prove just with a few interrogatories.... all he has to do is disclose his sources.

The problem being he was not saying something negative, he was saying something FALSE as in factually incorrect, unless of course he can present his evidence, which if he could do he could have done it yesterday.

If I say I don't like you and you are a mean person, well that's just freedom of expression and opinion, if I say in public you are a convicted child molester, and I know that was false at the time I said it... .that is a very winnable case and it happens every day.

For the record, I didn't actually hear the aired piece... but from what I heard it was not only an attack is was filled with what was facts, so that is easy to prove one way or another.
 
#73
#73
LSU-SIU said:
.that is a very winnable case and it happens every day.
Click to expand...

Actually, public figures very rarely win slander/libel suits. The standard is very, very high.

Whether or not everything in the SI story is true, it's very detailed and extremely well-sourced. If anything in there isn't true, it's because multiple sources told very similar lies. So the writers are covered from any libel claims.

And the radio host is basing his editorial comments on what was presented in the story. He does have any obligation to research the story on his own. He's covered from slander.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#74
#74
bamawriter said:
Actually, public figures very rarely win slander/libel suits. The standard is very, very high.

Whether or not everything in the SI story is true, it's very detailed and extremely well-sourced. If anything in there isn't true, it's because multiple sources told very similar lies. So the writers are covered from any libel claims.

And the radio host is basing his editorial comments on what was presented in the story. He does have any obligation to research the story on his own. He's covered from slander.
Click to expand...

Has nothing to do with the SI story, I have not seen even an allegation as to any wrong doing by LSU or even Les Miles in the SI stories, for obvious reasons.

From what I was told he claimed certain things about Miles and LSU as facts, he only would have to disclose the source/s of the facts. Three or four interrogatories would do the trick.

Apparently there are youtube videos of the same guy slamming Miles earlier in the summer as well which have been taken down. :)
 
#75
#75
LSU-SIU said:
From what I was told he claimed certain things about Miles and LSU as facts, he only would have to disclose the source/s of the facts. Three or four interrogatories would do the trick.
Click to expand...

Actually, the Supreme Court has ruled on more than one occasion that sources do not have to be disclosed. They are covered by the First Amendment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top