One Year Approval Rating

Do you approve of CBJ?

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#53
#53
I voted no because of the product I have seen on the field. So in recruiting I say I approve but in on field coaching do not approve or jury still out.
 
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#54
#54
TheColdVolTruth said:
Now to grade the professor:

Pig plays receiver. Steve Smith plays receiver. Comparing one to the other based on size alone, and not factoring Smith's ability to gain separation from almost any db on the planet is incomprehensible.

In the public relations assessment, you make a valid point.

On the competitiveness in conference play, most readers would assume that the game in which we beat the team that lost every conference game as well as a neutral site game against WKU is implied by the fact UT won the game. When competitiveness is spoken of, it is almost invariably done so from a standpoint of moral victories and this type of conversation is typically inapplicable to games which were actual victories.

Hanging your hat on a comparison to "The Sal Initiative" should be grounds for immediate expulsion. You speak of a team ranking of 80 in total defense as tremendous improvement. Supposing last year's 107 ranking was the rule rather than an anomoly, you might be correct. On the other hand, when you compare this to the last time UT ran a base 4-3, you would see that this year's ranking is far lower than the 2011 ranking of 28, so you are incorrect.

Summary
1. Zero credit
2. Full credit
3. Half credit (feeling generous/no child left behind so you have to get credit for something)
4. Zero credit
Total score - 37.5% = FAIL
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You’ve done a real bang-up job arguing against a lot of points I never made. Congratulations.

#1) OneVol argued that our coaches were “ridiculous” for putting Pig Howard on the outside solely based on his lack of height. I disagreed and gave a specific example of Steve Smith who excels in the NFL despite his lack of height. I never claimed that because they are both short, that Howard is as good as Smith. You have completely twisted, or don’t understand, the argument

#2) You agreed with me.

#3) His statement was that we were ONLY competitive in 3 SEC games (SC, UGA, and VU). I argued that he left off a 4th SEC game in which we were competitive (Kentucky). Are you claiming that Kentucky doesn’t count because they lost all of their SEC games? Any argument you make against including Kentucky as an SEC team is ridiculous.

#4) This point is less cut and dry and I admit that you do have a point about the disastrous Sal experiment. But you also have to admit that OneVols’ statement about the coaches not knowing how to teach someone to tackle is, well, a lie. Even a decent Pee-Wee football coach can teach someone how to tackle. This is yet another gross exaggeration. Our problems on defense were more complicated than that, and to a large extent were due to lack of high-level SEC talent.
 
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#56
#56
I expected 6 Wins and back in a bowl game just as most on here did.

I doubt that anyone expected Mizzou or AllBarn to be the powerhouses they turned out to be so that's 2 games that everyone expected to get at least 1 Win from.

Being realistic and knowing what a serious lack of talent and depth we really do have despite all the idiots that think we have alot of talent and depth we all should have expected only 5 or maybe 6 Wins as the top of the mark.

I only expect 6 Wins next season but the unrealistic rule here on VN so we can all get prepared for more total meltdowns when we lose games next season too.

I'd say bUTch did as well as he could with such poor talent and depth and his recruiting with this staff is incredible so if he can recruit every year like this year we'll be very happy fans 3 or 4 years from now which is really when we should start to judge how our rebuilding is going.

I'm happy to finally see improvement and light at the end of the tunnel and real hope for our return to greatness in the future.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
 
#57
#57
onevol74 said:
I will give him his three years to prove himself.

Recruiter - excellent, much better than I expected.
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This. As Doyle pointed out in another thread, I kept expecting a lot of decommits after each of our losses. But somehow, they just kept coming.

onevol74 said:
Coaching staff - very average. Really rolling my eyes at "best coaching staff in the country comment."
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Can't blame a guy for attempting to throw a little motivation behind his staff can you? Positive reinforcement is never a bad thing which is why he hasn't thrown a single player under the bus all year either.

People need to give this comment a rest. Had he come out and said "we have the absolute worst staff in the entire FBS" or "I went out and hired a bunch of average Joes to run the coaching staff" I would have been worried. So give the guy a break will you?

onevol74 said:
Schemes - average. Defense is really suspect regardless of the talent issues. Too many holes on the field against good teams. And I have to wonder if anyone on the coaching staff knows how to teach tackling? Offense is hard to judge because of execution issues. Using Pig on the outside against taller players is just ridiculous. They can not get him the ball.
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I think lack of depth at defense hurt us more than the talent gap. D going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 back to a 4-3 in a matter of three seasons probably didn't help us at all either. And three different coordinators in three seasons. Otherwise, the defense played pretty tough all year save a few games where the score would have been lopsided no matter what. I would like to see more blitzes in the future though and getting into the backfield to disrupt the opposing QB can certainly help.

Pig is a mystery. He was supposed to be the slot receiver, but I didn't see him lining up that way too often. He's talented and they need to find his niche where he is most effective. And for crying out loud, that Jet sweep only works so many times. Have to find something else that works.

onevol74 said:
Fashion Coordinator - excellent. Came up with nice alternative uniform that was irrelevant to the program and win/loss record.

Public relations - average. Good with fans and players. Created major riff in initiating a confrontation with band director in which one of them was eliminated.

Academics - excellent. Removed the program from APR vulnerabilities after 3 years of incompetence by his predecessor.
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Agreed on most of this. Not sure about the band deal though.

onevol74 said:
Game Management- average. Won the USCe game and lost the Vandy and UGA games with his game management. Was never competitive in other SEC games.
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Hard to compete with teams that would end the season as #3, 4 and 5 respectively. Rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic all you want, but nothing we could have done was going to change the outcomes in most of our SEC games.

onevol74 said:
Player development - Better than average. I give him credit for what he was able to do with Palardy, Sutton, DB's, and the running backs. Not sure on WR's, LB's, DL. Not impressed with the inability to get a yard with an experienced OL when it was needed but I really should not be surprised at this because he could not get that yard 3 times when he faced Dooley.
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I'll give him another year before making any firm stances on player development. We did see immediate progress in Palardy, but not sure about the remainder of the team. Sometimes it takes more than a year to effect a change in the entire team, so I'll wait and see.

onevol74 said:
I would give him a C+, B- for the first year. He said that he has had to change a lot of habits. He will have a considerable different group of players next year and those habits should be evident.

I do expect a minimum of 7-5 next year. Anything less than that is very average.
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Minimum yes. I think the SEC next year, specifically the East is going to be an interesting year. USCe, UGA and Vandy are all starting new QBs and losing some significant talent on their teams. Florida I expect to be a dumpster fire by about week 6 and the fans calling for Muschamp's head. Mizzou is a wild card since they lose Franklin, but put Mauk in the driver's seat full time which appears to be a talented QB. However, they are still losing a lot of talent on that team as well. Kentucky is...well Kentucky.

Next year the SEC East is certainly achievable since we are bringing back a bunch of talent and have new talent ready to go in the system.
 
#60
#60
hillsborovol said:
Since you have gone into so much detail on judging the coaching staff (good and bad), you must be held to your own standards. Here are some very suspect comments you made:

Pig Howard is too short to be used on the outside. Someone please inform the Carolina Panther's coaching staff that they are also "ridiculous" to play 5-time Pro Bowl WR Steve Smith (5'9") on the outside. And, he's going against much taller, better, higher jumping, etc. DBs in the NFL than are generally found in college. Sometimes size isn't everything.

I think CBJ's PR campaign should be judged quite a bit above just average, even if you blame him entirely for the band controversy. You are in a great minority on this opinion which, by definition, makes your assessment of average PR incorrect.

"Was never competitive in other SEC games." (outside of SC, UGA, and Vandy). You neglected to mention that we were competitive against Kentucky.

You strongly criticized the defensive coaches and even asked if anyone knew how to coach tackling. Seems to me like they made tremendous strides on defense compared to last year. We moved up on total defense rankings by more than 30 positions compared with last year, while playing the toughest schedule Tennessee has ever faced.

I agree with many of your statements, both positive and negative. However, you have too many factually unsupported opinions to receive anything higher than a C- or a D+ in my scoring system.
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Steve smith gets open... Pig does not get open on the outside.
 
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#61
#61
Given this was a yes/no (pass/fail) quiz, not a letter graded test, I'd give the student a passing grade.
 
#63
#63
KBVol said:
Wrong. If So Alabama scores on that drive rather than throwing the pick, they only tie the game up after the PAT.
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The same goes for the Georgia fumble by Pig. That wouldn't have won it. Just put UT ahead.


This goes both ways. you guys can't count only the stuff that you want.
 
#64
#64
onevol74 said:
I will give him his three years to prove himself.

Recruiter - excellent, much better than I expected.

Coaching staff - very average. Really rolling my eyes at "best coaching staff in the country comment."

Schemes - average. Defense is really suspect regardless of the talent issues. Too many holes on the field against good teams. And I have to wonder if anyone on the coaching staff knows how to teach tackling? Offense is hard to judge because of execution issues. Using Pig on the outside against taller players is just ridiculous. They can not get him the ball.

Fashion Coordinator - excellent. Came up with nice alternative uniform that was irrelevant to the program and win/loss record.

Public relations - average. Good with fans and players. Created major riff in initiating a confrontation with band director in which one of them was eliminated.

Academics - excellent. Removed the program from APR vulnerabilities after 3 years of incompetence by his predecessor.

Game Management- average. Won the USCe game and lost the Vandy and UGA games with his game management. Was never competitive in other SEC games.

Player development - Better than average. I give him credit for what he was able to do with Palardy, Sutton, DB's, and the running backs. Not sure on WR's, LB's, DL. Not impressed with the inability to get a yard with an experienced OL when it was needed but I really should not be surprised at this because he could not get that yard 3 times when he faced Dooley.

I would give him a C+, B- for the first year. He said that he has had to change a lot of habits. He will have a considerable different group of players next year and those habits should be evident.

I do expect a minimum of 7-5 next year. Anything less than that is very average.
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The gray uniform wasn't irrelevant. Recruits notice stuff like that and our players were big fans as well.

He was far better than average at public relations.

Best staff in America was coach speak. No more, no less.
 
#66
#66
It think the question is too narrow. Do we approve of his recruiting or his coaching. I think he has lit up our world when it comes to recruiting but as far as "coaching", I'm underwhelmed.
 
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