Only Congress Can Save College Sports

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Voltopia said:
I do so dearly appreciate the "Congress can do nothing" avenue of humor, but Congress was involved in creating the original antitrust exemption that allowed the NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL to operate in the wake of the Supreme Court's 1961 judgment against the NFL. Not only that, it took them less than one month to do so. The Supreme Court passed its judgment that July, and only two months later Congress took up the legislation to create the Sports Broadcasting Act.
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What evidence do you have that these were good measures?

Also, ironic that congress is responsible for antitrust law in the first place.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What evidence do you have that these were good measures?

Also, ironic that congress is responsible for antitrust law in the first place.
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Well, firstly, because if they hadn't passed the act, the league(s) would have been compelled to stop operating with a goal of promoting league growth by the Supreme Court's decision? The permission to negotiate for all of the NFL' teams, which had been found to violate some variety of anti-trust boundary around competition between the individual teams/corporations, promoted the long-term viability of the NFL.

But since the original statement was a teasing retort to "Congress can't do anything," I think the fact they acted within a four week span to pass legislation to permit the sports leagues to continue operating in their newer form is proof enough that they can do something - when they're motivated to do so. And that was the point.
 
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loservol said:
Once the SEC was eliminated from the playoffs, television ratings went down by a lot. This current system is not going to work. The real SEC schools can't compete with Texas. Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Miami and Notre Dame in paying star players.

The Big Ten, Texas and Notre Dame is loving this chaos, so they have zero reason to form a minor league with the SEC.
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Texas? The Texas that's in the SEC?
 
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loservol said:
This model won't work. Regular fans are angry about all this garbage and losing interest in college football, quick. A minor league is just another far fetched investor group pipe dream. Better if Congress just gave power back to the NCAA, so things can start moving back to status quo. The whole bucking the NCAA so thry could make Nico rich was just plain dumb on the Vols part.
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That's ludicrous. It's never going back to what you want.
 
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It's not that complicated. You need contracts.

The only thing hurting college sport atm is unlimited free agency. Enact employment contracts like....every freakin common sense sports league already does.

Everything becomes a crab. Get it over with and make college sports a crab.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
The Supreme Court didn't create this. The NCAA's illegal sports model did it. The courts simply applied existing law. They could have done that decades ago if anyone had brought the lawsuits then.
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Bingo.

The scum universities and their association screwed players for decades. Now they're meeting their reckoning.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Call it crazy all you want but this is what happens when so many wanted the NCAA dismantled. Nobody gave any real thought into how or who would govern. Now that the NCAA is all but powerless, teams and conferences can do whatever they want.

Yeah boy college football sure does seem a lot better off without the NCAA 🙄🙄
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I’m no big defender of the NCAA by any stretch, but the massive/rapid change we’ve witnessed minus a well thought out end-game pretty much always succumb to the law of unintended consequences.
 
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Vol Farmer said:
I understand the concept of NIL but it is spiraling out of control. Athletes are out for themselves. What happened ? Show me the money !!
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Absolutely everybody involved in CFB, from the fans, to the coaches, to the admins is in it for themselves. If we didn't enjoy it, we'd have nothing to do with it. If the coaches and admins didn't get paid, they'd be doing something else. They jump ship when the money is right. Everybody does. Players were in it for themselves before NIL.

Some of us liked it better when we could pretend players weren't in it for themselves. It's crazy to oppose NIL for that reason (not saying you are).

We just need to slow down movement a little bit (contracts) and everything will settle down.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
That's ludicrous. It's never going back to what you want.
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No, the stupidity that we are seeing right now is ludicrous. Fans are angry with the changes and they are not joking around about it. This new system isn't going to fly.

The idiots who got this whole mess started needs to apologize to all the fans and clean up the mess they created.
 
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loservol said:
No, the stupidity that we are seeing right now is ludicrous. Fans are angry with the changes and they are not joking around about it. This new system isn't going to fly.

The idiots who got this whole mess started needs to apologize to all the fans and clean up the mess they created.
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That's silly and bogus. "The fans" is a false generalization. Plenty of fans either like the changes or don't care.

The new system is flying. The idiots are the ones that want the old way to come back.
That system violated at least two federal laws. The 1887 Interstate Commerce Act, and the 1890 Sherman Antitrust Act. Those rules also violate multiple states' laws.

The mess is that the NCAA got away with it for a century. The idiots are the people that want laws violated because they can't adapt.
It's explicit ignorance. Please stop embarrassing yourself and the Tennessee tabs that know better.
 
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loservol said:
This model won't work. Regular fans are angry about all this garbage and losing interest in college football, quick. A minor league is just another far fetched investor group pipe dream. Better if Congress just gave power back to the NCAA, so things can start moving back to status quo. The whole bucking the NCAA so thry could make Nico rich was just plain dumb on the Vols part.
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That's a list of canards.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Call it crazy all you want but this is what happens when so many wanted the NCAA dismantled. Nobody gave any real thought into how or who would govern. Now that the NCAA is all but powerless, teams and conferences can do whatever they want.

Yeah boy college football sure does seem a lot better off without the NCAA 🙄🙄
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Sorry they took away the illegal monopoly you enjoyed so much and allowed the athletes to be compensated fairly...lol.

And, no, we don't have to solely rely on Congress... Some of those are starting to play out now.
 
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There is nothing wrong with college sports. Just a bunch of people that don't like change.


There is literally more parity in college football right now than at any point in the last like 30 years. Do you really want to go back to dynasties dominating the game? Was it fun watching Bama win 6 titles in 12 years? Or UGA going to the SEC Championship every year for like 10 years straight and winning back to back titles? Or watching yet another Clemson vs Bama championship game? Is that what you want to go back to?
 
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KINGSVOL said:
Which already exists, CFB would use the same model as the NFL and since players will become employees they could keep school requirements in place or not.
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The NFL model includes the following:

Player unions
Collective bargaining
Higher salaries than the projected revenue sharing model
The right to strike
No school registration requirement
A draft
No recruiting
Involuntary trades
No athlete choice in where they play
No high school recruiting

Is that what you really want?
 
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