Only reason BAMA is in CFP is MONEY!

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imavolfan said:
Sooo, an 11 seed team gets an easier path to the championship than a 9 seed? I would much rather play ND and SMU than Ohio State and Oregon.
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Seriously? The bracket is set up for the higher seeds. The 8 seed gets a 9, the 6th seed gets an 11 seed. If seed holds the 1 seed would play the 8th and the 3 seed would play the 6th. And I disagree about wanting ND over OSU. But if it makes it seem more fair, The 11th seed would play Texas in the semifinals (if other seeds hold) and we would play Boise St.
Look at it as a positive. We Beat OSU and then go to the freaking Rose Bowl! That would be awesome. Great for west coast recruiting as well.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
It’s hilarious that people think there is a conspiracy to put Bama in but also say Bama would destroy every non-SEC team. It’s one or the other, can’t be both.

I don’t think a team that lost to Vanderbilt and a bad OU team should be in. I also don’t think they will win a playoff game. South Carolina is playing like the 4th best SEC team right now, but they lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Ole Miss impresses me more than Bama. Miami I think deserves it more than Bama. Should be one of those 3.
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So if all of your second paragraph is true, why is Bama in and the others are out? I don’t know about NCAA pressure because they can’t find their butt with either hand to do anything. But you can bet that Greg Sankey and ESPN are pushing them over Ole Miss and SC Jr. and I would call that a conspiracy.

The Bama brand carries the day for them even if they don’t deserve it. Now if Clemson beats SMU, then committee will have to make a decision to buck Sankey and ESPN. If they both stay in, Bama is out. The question is do they have the nads to do it?
 
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Delmar said:
So if all of your second paragraph is true, why is Bama in and the others are out? I don’t know about NCAA pressure because they can’t find their butt with either hand to do anything. But you can bet that Greg Sankey and ESPN are pushing them over Ole Miss and SC Jr. and I would call that a conspiracy.

The Bama brand carries the day for them even if they don’t deserve it. Now if Clemson beats SMU, then committee will have to make a decision to buck Sankey and ESPN. If they both stay in, Bama is out. The question is do they have the nads to do it?
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Well the question is really between Ole Miss and Bama since both teams beat South Carolina. I think SC is playing the best among those teams down the stretch, but it’s hard to get in over both when you lose to both. It doesn’t take a conspiracy to leave them out, it just takes looking at the head to head.

I personally think Ole Miss is the better team than Bama. But ultimately distinguishing between the two is splitting hairs, and I don’t think Bama getting in means a conspiracy, especially given the fact that Bama’s coach was just in the national championship game with an undefeated team and Ole Miss’s coach wilts in big moments.
 
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76volman said:
LOL.....you can believe your own BS if you want. To say NCAA has no say over CFP committee is laughable, and everyone else knows it!! Everyone on the CFP committee is a MEMBER OF THE NCAA.
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From Wikipedia:
As the NCAA does not organize or award an official national championship for FBS football (instead merely recognizing the decisions made by any of a number of independent major championship selectors)
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
There are no football related arguments that might lead someone to think Ohio State has a better resume? N
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Well the question is really between Ole Miss and Bama since both teams beat South Carolina. I think SC is playing the best among those teams down the stretch, but it’s hard to get in over both when you lose to both. It doesn’t take a conspiracy to leave them out, it just takes looking at the head to head.

I personally think Ole Miss is the better team than Bama. But ultimately distinguishing between the two is splitting hairs, and I don’t think Bama getting in means a conspiracy, especially given the fact that Bama’s coach was just in the national championship game with an undefeated team and Ole Miss’s coach wilts in big moments.
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The damage was already done before this past week but Kentucky getting throttled by Louisville probably did not help Ole Miss. That home Kentucky loss is probably worse than the Bama loss to Oklahoma. Ole Miss has 2 wins over current top 25 teams. Bama is 3-1 against current top 25. All 3 of Ole Miss losses are outside the top 25, Bama has 2.
 
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The only reason Bama is in is because their SOS and SOR are better than all of the other bubble teams.
Some of you guys are losing your minds for no reason.
 
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I hate Bama as much as anyone but Miami hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse and Bama beat USCjr head to head. Bama did get handled by Oklahoma but they beat USCjr, UGA, and blew out LSU in Death Valley. I'm fine with them being in
 
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Ty4Vols said:
The only reason Bama is in is because their SOS and SOR are better than all of the other bubble teams.
Some of you guys are losing your minds for no reason.
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I agree, that Oklahoma loss looks terrible but overall they have the best 3 loss résumé. I do think Ole Miss has the best win, being when they throttled GA, but Bama was also the winner in their GA game.

Anyway, I really don’t care. I can’t see so far where anyone is getting completely screwed so I really don’t care. I do have a little SEC pride, so if you guys were to play OSU I would pull for TN but I don’t think you will wind up playing OSU in the first round anyway. Pretty much though, I’m pulling for GA and also maybe for certain players that I enjoy watching on varied teams. I’ve always pulled for Oregon as well. I’ve been a fan of the Ducks since the mid 2000’s. It started bc I hated USC back then, but I’ve actually grown to be a bit of a Duck fan since. Especially with Dan Lanning there, he is a very good coach.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I hate Bama as much as anyone but Miami hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse and Bama beat USCjr head to head. Bama did get handled by Oklahoma but they beat USCjr, UGA, and blew out LSU in Death Valley. I'm fine with them being in
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Right. The argument should be between Bama and Ole Miss. Miami and SCAR have nothing to stand on.
 
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adam.vol said:
As long as brand is factored in, it should be illegal to sell these playoffs as fair or equal opportunity. The college football playoffs should have to read a disclaimer before every broadcast that participants may receive preferential treatment.
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This is exactly why there is a committee of bureaucrats making the selections instead of some kind of objective algorithm. Did anyone seriously believe they were ever going to give away control of choosing the teams for this beauty pageant disguised as a "playoff"?

And although UT fans are making this about Alabama, as you said it's about making damn sure the brands that attract views and ratings are all not only accounted for in the playoff, but are in advantageous position to advance. Penn State has a cakewalk to the final four, as will the Notre Dame-Alabama winner. They hope to get a OSU-Oregon rematch and have UGa and Texas matching up to insure that only one of them gets to the final four. Their dream four would be PSU, OSU, Texas, and ND, although they'd be fine with Bama.

There are only three SEC programs that matter to the money men - Texas, Bama, and UGa. Did anyone seriously believe USCe or Ole Miss had a prayer of getting in over Bama - regardless of 'resume'?

The beauty of it is that we have an opportunity to crash their dream party. The officiating in that UT-OSU game should be very interesting to watch.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Right. The argument should be between Bama and Ole Miss. Miami and SCAR have nothing to stand on.
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There never was an argument! Alabama is one of the chosen brands, period. Look at the draws of the 'favored' programs in this farce. They are making it crystal clear who they want advancing.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
The reason we have the terrible format we have is because the B10 and SEC gave in to the demands of the other conferences for the byes and auto bids.

Sankey made deals to get a terribly flawed bracket system.
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That, and allowing a "committee" clearly biased toward the money schools that get big TV ratings to do the selection. The bracket is doing everything it can to grease the skids for PSU, the ND-Bama winner, and making sure only one of UGa and Texas can move on.
 
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imavolfan said:
Sooo, an 11 seed team gets an easier path to the championship than a 9 seed? I would much rather play ND and SMU than Ohio State and Oregon.
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Your exactly right! I just hope they take into consideration what happens in these Conference Title games, and maybe it will bump one or 2 of them down a few seeds.
 
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TNBV said:
The damage was already done before this past week but Kentucky getting throttled by Louisville probably did not help Ole Miss. That home Kentucky loss is probably worse than the Bama loss to Oklahoma. Ole Miss has 2 wins over current top 25 teams. Bama is 3-1 against current top 25. All 3 of Ole Miss losses are outside the top 25, Bama has 2.
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I personally don’t think getting blown out by OU is much if any better than being beaten by Kentucky. We played at OU and controlled the whole game, gave up some garbage time points or it would have been a blowout. We played Kentucky in Knoxville, trailed in the second half, and only led by 3 with 5 minutes to go. OU is probably a bit better than Kentucky, but not better enough to say a blowout loss is any more acceptable than a last second loss to Kentucky.
 
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76volman said:
You're quoting wikipedia??? Please keep making me laugh!!!
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No need to be a jackass, from the playoff official site.

GOVERNANCE​

University presidents and chancellors from all 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame serve as the board of managers and govern the administrative operations, with commissioners and Notre Dame athletics director (the Management Committee) managing the event. A small staff in the CFP office in Irving, Texas, carries out the day-to-day responsibilities.
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No mention of NCAA because the NCAA has no governance over the FBS division of college football as far as media rights, scheduling, or selecting a champion.
 
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Serious question- how does Bama bring money to the table? Outside of Saban, do they have any super wealthy donors? Do they have a donor like the Haslams? The average level of education in Alabama is about an 8th grade education 😀. Where is all of this wealth and influence coming from? Is it viewership and all of the bandwagon fans that drive revenue? How does the money flow so much to where it influences people to ‘protect’ Bama. There are just as many fans who hate them and are sick of them.
 
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TNBV said:
Seriously? The bracket is set up for the higher seeds. The 8 seed gets a 9, the 6th seed gets an 11 seed. If seed holds the 1 seed would play the 8th and the 3 seed would play the 6th. And I disagree about wanting ND over OSU. But if it makes it seem more fair, The 11th seed would play Texas in the semifinals (if other seeds hold) and we would play Boise St.
Look at it as a positive. We Beat OSU and then go to the freaking Rose Bowl! That would be awesome. Great for west coast recruiting as well.
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Yes, seriously. Once you get to the final 4 it should be tough. You really think SMU would beat Oregon? OSU and ND could be a good game but if put money on OSU. Bama’s path is definitely easier than ours.
 
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ntxVOL said:
No need to be a jackass, from the playoff official site.


No mention of NCAA because the NCAA has no governance over the FBS division of college football as far as medts, scheduling, or selecting a champion.
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Not trying to be a jackass. You mention GOVERNANCE.......NOW. I am not talking governance right now. When the CFP format, participating conferences, etc was set up, the NCAA had to give it's blessing on this , otherwise, there would be court challenges, etc over control, money, participation in the whole process. SO YES, NCAA was involved at the beginning of this process including #of conference teams will be in the CFP playoff, as well as MONEY being distributed to the NCAA, TV money allotment for each participating conference, ticket allotment for each team, transportation expenses and many more details.
 
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sami said:
That, and allowing a "committee" clearly biased toward the money schools that get big TV ratings to do the selection. The bracket is doing everything it can to grease the skids for PSU, the ND-Bama winner, and making sure only one of UGa and Texas can move on.
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You have any thoughts on why TCU made it 2 yrs ago instead of Bama?
 
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