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bleedingTNorange said:
1. If they had a coach that knew what he was doing it may help a little. Id hate to see where pastner would have Memphis if he didn't land any of those talented guys from the city.

2. Calipari recruits 5*, and that's pretty much it. He's recruiting king and jw3, as well as Nichols, the only 5* in Memphis. If jajuan and markel were 5* calipari would be on the as well. He basically, if you look at it, recruits the top 30 players in the country or so, and rarely goes outside that.


I heard CCM talk awhile ago about this, I don't remember if it was Memphis specifically, but it was about in state kids. He said they like to go after in state kids because many of them realize that they are playing for their state, and will sometimes play harder because of it. Maybe that's part of the reason as to why.

Also, especially next years class, where else can you make one short plane flight to, and see 8-10 guys that you're recruiting? You can't do that anywhere else during HS season, so by going to Memphis he's able to check up on 8-10 recruits in one trip.
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I don't have the time to argue this today, especially on my phone. Let's just say we disagree and maybe when I get back off the road we can revisit it.
 
#27
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zansdad said:
I don't have the time to argue this today, especially on my phone. Let's just say we disagree and maybe when I get back off the road we can revisit it.
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Sounds good. Not saying you're wrong as I understand what you're saying, all I'm saying is that for next years class I get why they spent a lot of time in Memphis.
 
#28
#28
The 2013 class in Memphis is worth all the effort, imo. Maybe not every year, but this year's class is too loaded to not be active there. Crawford and Johnson have been under-the-radar for a while, which should say a lot about how loaded it is.
 
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GatorsGators said:
The 2013 class in Memphis is worth all the effort, imo. Maybe not every year, but this year's class is too loaded to not be active there. Crawford and Johnson have been under-the-radar for a while, which should say a lot about how loaded it is.
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Thats my whole point. This year were actively recruiting 8-10 guys from the memphis area, and thats not even including freshman and sophomores were recruiting. It's well worth every second this year IMO.
 
#31
#31
Cdywolfe said:
Wouldn't it be 19?

The other 6 in the east twice (12)

The 7 in the west (7)

Or am I missing something. Which is absolutely possible btw.
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No. For one there's no longer east/west apparently, but what they've discussed is you play everybody once, and then I guess rotate the other 5 additional games.
 
#32
#32
Fijivol72 said:
CM needs to concentrate on recruiting some players. Other than Stokes he has been a disappointment. Like him so I hope he can turn around his mid-level recruitment.
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You do realize that so far his classes have been better than what Pearl had put together
 
#34
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VolsFan4Ever-11 said:
You do realize that so far his classes have been better than what Pearl had put together
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Pearls second class was top ten.....granted some players didn't perform as we hoped but it definitely gave the fans confidence we were headed in the right direction.....this is a very important recruiting class for cuonzo or we could take a huge step back as a program.
 
#35
#35
volbeast33 said:
Pearls second class was top ten.....granted some players didn't perform as we hoped but it definitely gave the fans confidence we were headed in the right direction.....this is a very important recruiting class for cuonzo or we could take a huge step back as a program.
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The program has already taken a step back, do you mean even further back than what they were last year?
 
#36
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bleedingTNorange said:
The program has already taken a step back, do you mean even further back than what they were last year?
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I know u feel coach zo took over a program in horrible shape......I do not agree with that sentiment and do not feel we are that far away from where we were unless recruiting does not pick up this season.
 
#37
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volbeast33 said:
I know u feel coach zo took over a program in horrible shape......I do not agree with that sentiment and do not feel we are that far away from where we were unless recruiting does not pick up this season.
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So is that why no major big name coach wasn't knocking to come here after Pearl screwed up.
 
#38
#38
volbeast33 said:
I know u feel coach zo took over a program in horrible shape.
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That really has nothing to do with what I'm saying. The program had become a top 20 program, NCAA mainstay, and usually winning atleast 1 game. The last 2 years we haven't been ranked, barely made the tourney once, and got blown out in that effort.

So when i say that the program has taken a step back I'm not only putting it on CCM, its a combo of the last 2 years. When you look at it the program has taken a step backwards already, so that was my question.

If CCM doesn't land a great class, do you see Tennessee taking ANOTHER step back?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That really has nothing to do with what I'm saying. The program had become a top 20 program, NCAA mainstay, and usually winning atleast 1 game. The last 2 years we haven't been ranked, barely made the tourney once, and got blown out in that effort.

So when i say that the program has taken a step back I'm not only putting it on CCM, its a combo of the last 2 years. When you look at it the program has taken a step backwards already, so that was my question.

If CCM doesn't land a great class, do you see Tennessee taking ANOTHER step back?
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I don't think we have taken a step back yet.....Pearls last season would have been much better in my opinion if not for the distraction Pearl caused with his lying....A slightly worse season by Zo is not necessarily a step back either. we lost our two stars from the team...system change ....and young players in new roles.

After this season though, it is very much possible that we will be without Any post player besides Yemi.....no player besides Stokes looks as good or better than any starter we already had....I hold out hope for some of them to possibly develop though.

if he doesn't sign a good class this year then yes I feel 2013 could be dismal on the hill.
 
#40
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volbeast33 said:
I don't think we have taken a step back yet.....Pearls last season would have been much better in my opinion if not for the distraction Pearl caused with his lying....A slightly worse season by Zo is not necessarily a step back either. we lost our two stars from the team...system change ....and young players in new roles.

After this season though, it is very much possible that we will be without Any post player besides Yemi.....no player besides Stokes looks as good or better than any starter we already had....I hold out hope for some of them to possibly develop though.

if he doesn't sign a good class this year then yes I feel 2013 could be dismal on the hill.
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Every college loses player, and some(most) face distractions, it's part of the game. The fact is the last 2 years haven't been as productive as the previous 5(?). I don't care how it's spun, the program has taken a small step back. As i said, tennessee had become a program thought of as a top 20 program and solid NCAA mainstay, they're no longer thought of that highly. Therefore, they've taken a step backwards, not a huge one, but the program has definitely taken a step back.

Ok. I Just was curious where you stand.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Every college loses player, and some(most) face distractions, it's part of the game. The fact is the last 2 years haven't been as productive as the previous 5(?). I don't care how it's spun, the program has taken a small step back. As i said, tennessee had become a program thought of as a top 20 program and solid NCAA mainstay, they're no longer thought of that highly. Therefore, they've taken a step backwards, not a huge one, but the program has definitely taken a step back.

Ok. I Just was curious where you stand.
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I wasn't really talking about wins and losses....you could also say Kentucky takes a small step back if they don't win the championship next yr.....I am referring to the talent on the team. I feel it will be a huge step back if he does not have a good recruiting class this....I really don't feel national perception of our program is that poor.
 
#43
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volbeast33 said:
I wasn't really talking about wins and losses....you could also say Kentucky takes a small step back if they don't win the championship next yr.....I am referring to the talent on the team. I feel it will be a huge step back if he does not have a good recruiting class this....I really don't feel national perception of our program is that poor.
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Seriously UK? No don't think so. Their perception is top program that will compete every year. Saying if they don't win the championship next year that this perception changes is insane.

I didn't say the perception of the program is poor, that's your call. I said the perception has declined. 2 years ago we were thought of as a annual top 20 program, would you still say that? Nobody outside of Knoxville would.
 
#44
#44
bleedingTNorange said:
Seriously UK? No don't think so. Their perception is top program that will compete every year. Saying if they don't win the championship next year that this perception changes is insane.

I didn't say the perception of the program is poor, that's your call. I said the perception has declined. 2 years ago we were thought of as a annual top 20 program, would you still say that? Nobody outside of Knoxville would.
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And perception matters how?
 
#47
#47
bleedingTNorange said:
You originally said were going to take a step back, as I've said, we've already taken a step back in the last 2 years.

So all I was saying was, will we take another step back in your opinion, that's all?
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Oh ok......yes that is my fear but hopefully u r right about Zo's recruiting efforts this season.
 
#48
#48
bleedingTNorange said:
So the Xavier job is much better than Tennessee?
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No it's not but Xavier is a good/decent basketball school.....Chris Mack is from Ohio, played for Xavier, started his coaching career at high school in Cincinnati, was an assistant at Xavier....I may be guessing but it would probably take something pretty special to pry him away from Xavier.
 
#49
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bleedingTNorange said:
So the Xavier job is much better than Tennessee?
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One could easily argue that Xavier is a better job than UT.
Xavier is a basketball school, plays in a basketball conference, and is located in a recruiting hotbed unlike UT. UT has more money and better facilities, but facilities aren't a major selling point in regards to college Basketball.
 
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#50
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volbeast33 said:
No it's not but Xavier is a good/decent basketball school.....Chris Mack is from Ohio, played for Xavier, started his coaching career at high school in Cincinnati, was an assistant at Xavier....I may be guessing but it would probably take something pretty special to pry him away from Xavier.
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And Greg Marshall? Or Shaka smart?
 
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