Operation Crossfire Hurricane: The FBI’s secret cabal against Trump

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lawgator1 said:
The truth shall set you free.
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It was a small part of the genesis of the FISA warrant. Stop pretending it was the whole thing. That is a debunked argument, it was a garbage claim to being with. And, none of it has been proven false, as you say. Some parts remain unverified, such as the Russian hooker pee story. But, given Trump's penchant for grabbing random women by the pu$$y, paying off porn starts, etc., I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be true, as well.
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In your response above you are exaggerating and making statements that are not fact supported.

1. You have no idea how much of a role the dossier played in the FISA warrant yet claim it was a "small part". Just admit what we know - it played a part, we don't know how much and McCabe testified it was needed to get the FISA warrant.

2. Strawman - few people (I can think of none) claim the dossier was the ONLY thing used to the FISA warrant.

3. Some of the dossier has been proven false (despite your claim).

4. When you say "some parts" remain unverified and point to the pee tape you are intentionally implying that most of the information has been verified. You do not know that.

So spare us the sanctimony of "narratives" when you yourself cannot resist presenting your own distorted version of the facts.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's not spying. Cut it out.
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Guess it is ok now for the current DOJ to implant personnel in any upcoming presidential election. May as well apply to all congressional elections too.


You know, we gotta protect our electoral process from those pesky Russians.
 
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volinbham said:
Of course it is. Use of informants and intercepting communications without knowledge of the targets is most certainly spying.
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Remember Trump is not a "target". If a drug dealer is under surveillance and you buy from the drug dealer you are not a target just stupid.
 
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Mick said:
Remember Trump is not a "target". If a drug dealer is under surveillance and you buy from the drug dealer you are not a target just stupid.
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That's a confusing analogy.

So who's the drug dealer and who bought drugs from the dealer?
 
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Allegedly, Rosenstein and Wray are headed to talk with the president. I'd say his tweet got their utmost attention.
 
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Rosenstein will be fired or resign by the morning over Trump's demand that they give to his lackeys in the House the documents concerning the intelligence gathered to show he was colluding.

Trump wants the info now so that he can know what Mueller has on him and so he can begin the campaign to discredit the sources of the info. Rosenstein is not going to fall for this gimmick by him, and he's going to be out.

The House is going to have to seriously consider impeachment within the next week or so.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rosenstein will be fired or resign by the morning over Trump's demand that they give to his lackeys in the House the documents concerning the intelligence gathered to show he was colluding.

Trump wants the info now so that he can know what Mueller has on him and so he can begin the campaign to discredit the sources of the info. Rosenstein is not going to fall for this gimmick by him, and he's going to be out.

The House is going to have to seriously consider impeachment within the next week or so.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 keep the dream alive!!!
 
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lawgator1 said:
Rosenstein will be fired or resign by the morning over Trump's demand that they give to his lackeys in the House the documents concerning the intelligence gathered to show he was colluding.

Trump wants the info now so that he can know what Mueller has on him and so he can begin the campaign to discredit the sources of the info. Rosenstein is not going to fall for this gimmick by him, and he's going to be out.

The House is going to have to seriously consider impeachment within the next week or so.
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So in other words Rosenstien is about to end the investigation, profusely apologize to Trump and beg that he's not included in the sweep of traitors that's coming.


We all know how accurate your predictions are.
 
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Trump is such a moron. All he is doing is helping build the case that his intent by all this is to obstruct. He's handing motive to Mueller on a silver platter.
 
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hog88 said:
So in other words Rosenstien is about to end the investigation, profusely apologize to Trump and beg that he's not included in the sweep of traitors that's coming.


We all know how accurate your predictions are.
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If this article has its facts right, Rosenstein is playing Trump.

Within hours of Trump’s demand, though, it seemed as though the DOJ had backed down, again coming up with a potential compromise solution. On Sunday evening, the department responded to Trump’s tweet by expanding an inspector general investigation of the DOJ to include the subject of the president’s tweet.

According to the Washington Post, the DOJ expanded that IG investigation “to include determining whether there was any impropriety or political motivation in how the FBI conducted its counterintelligence investigation of persons suspected of involvement with the Russian agents who interfered in the 2016 presidential election.”

With the move, the Justice Department appears to be making the calculation that it can appease Trump, while also buying time for the various investigations of the president.
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That would imply dragging out the IG investigation ... possibly after the midterm elections? It's not at all a compromise. It's going to be really interesting how the continuing game of one good screwing deserves another turns out.

Rod Rosenstein cedes to Trump demand to investigate Trump’s investigators.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump is such a moron. All he is doing is helping build the case that his intent by all this is to obstruct. He's handing motive to Mueller on a silver platter.
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So a sitting president of the United States is...Obstructing what? and How? and what crimes and criminal codes?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump is such a moron. All he is doing is helping build the case that his intent by all this is to obstruct. He's handing motive to Mueller on a silver platter.
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Trump is such a moron he will never run for President'
Trump is such a moron he will never win the nomination
Trump is such a moron he will never win the general election
Trump is such a moron the markets are going to crash
Trump is such a moron he is going to get us in a trade war with China
Trump is such a moron he is going to get us into a nuke war with N Korea

Always a step ahead of the unhinged left
 
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Vol0725 said:
So a sitting president of the United States is...Obstructing what? and How? and what crimes and criminal codes?
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Sigh.

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For the millionth time -- you do not have to be guilty of an underlying criminal offense in order to obstruct a legal investigation into it.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Wonder if Rosenstein is begging on his hands and knees like he did in Paul Ryan's office?
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From what he's offering, it sounds like Rosenstein believes he's driving not being ridden. He's the kind of guy you'd love to see attract a bolt of lightning. Hard to believe we give un-elected people that amount of power.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sigh.

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For the millionth time -- you do not have to be guilty of an underlying criminal offense in order to obstruct a legal investigation into it.
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Wouldn't you have to obstruct justice in order to be charged with obstruction of justice? Mueller being incompetent or not finding anything isn't due to Trump obstructing him.
 
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hog88 said:
Wouldn't you have to obstruct justice in order to be charged with obstruction of justice? Mueller being incompetent or not finding anything isn't due to Trump obstructing him.
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Actually with the Feds, it's looking like you could be charged with any number of things while having done none of them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sigh.

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For the millionth time -- you do not have to be guilty of an underlying criminal offense in order to obstruct a legal investigation into it.
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How is directing the DOJ to investigate the claims against the FBI and intelligence community “obstructing” the Mueller investigation? The IG investigation into Clinton’s emails isn’t obstructing the Mueller investigation or that would have been brought up.

I’ll cut to the chase and answer for you. It doesn’t obstruct the Mueller investigation. That desperate cry is only being used to try and thwart an honest look into the garbage that resulted in the unconstitutional Mueller investigation happening in the first place. Mueller can still go buy his bucket of minnows every morning to go fishing while Horowitz decides if his fishing license is valid. Plain and simple.
 
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