Orange Bowl Opt Outs

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vols40 said:
Some of us have accepted that he quit. Not biatching just stating facts.
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The only fact you present you have no idea wtf you are talking about period. His coach aint mad, his team isn't mad. If they were with twitter and all someone have said something outside of positivity. Your just a disgruntled school girl whining cause Jalin isn't gonna play and risk NFL dollars on the college game he is no longer invested in. Man up buttercup and stop ya b1tchin
 
#52
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rocytop2624 said:
I ain't bĂŻtchen either just stating fact also.
If the hole university opted out there would be alot of people on here crying but since it's just a few stars then it's đź‘Ť. Tillman makes since he has been hurt but Hyatt has 2 years of eligibility and he is making a million dollars a year.
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See post above
 
#53
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rocytop2624 said:
I ain't bĂŻtchen either just stating fact also.
If the hole university opted out there would be alot of people on here crying but since it's just a few stars then it's đź‘Ť. Tillman makes since he has been hurt but Hyatt has 2 years of eligibility and he is making a million dollars a year.
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The fact that Tillman makes sense and Hyatt doesn't shows just how stupid your arguement is
 
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BigALWiLson said:
The only fact you present you have no idea wtf you are talking about period. His coach aint mad, his team isn't mad. If they were with twitter and all someone have said something outside of positivity. Your just a disgruntled school girl whining cause Jalin isn't gonna play and risk NFL dollars on the college game he is no longer invested in. Man up buttercup and stop ya b1tchin
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Man up yourself and stop saying he opted out. He quit. And what makes it even more difficult is Young and Anderson (who are much higher prospects) didn't. Or would you like to claim they opted in?
 
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vols40 said:
Your right "Al" I forgot about the 6-7 weeks Hyatt missed because of surgery this season.
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He came back and played..... who would playing in this game benefit more Hyatt or Tillman to show he is healed up right ? Has a big game and helps his draft stock.... Where as Jalin is already a high draft pick chancing first money or falling to a 3 rd or lower pick because of injury... Think about the ND lb that tore his acl playing in a bowl game, went from a sure fire 1st rd pick to 5th round and getting 700k from insurance. Losing 20m guaranteed
 
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BigALWiLson said:
He came back and played..... who would playing in this game benefit more Hyatt or Tillman to show he is healed up right ? Has a big game and helps his draft stock.... Where as Jalin is already a high draft pick chancing first money or falling to a 3 rd or lower pick because of injury... Think about the ND lb that tore his acl playing in a bowl game, went from a sure fire 1st rd pick to 5th round and getting 700k from insurance. Losing 20m guaranteed
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I say that they both quit. And neither of them are getting 20 million guaranteed. So stop with the exaggerations. Young and Anderson are much higher rated than both. Explain why they aren't quitting.
 
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vols40 said:
I say that they both quit. And neither of them are getting 20 million guaranteed. So stop with the exaggerations. Young and Anderson are much higher rated than both. Explain why they aren't quitting.
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I dont know why they are not playing or if they will play the whole game. Nor do I give a damn if either have good pro careers. Jalin chose TN. I wish him the best. It was a hell of a season and yes I wish he were going to play. I also understand why he isn't from a business stand point. He has proven himself at the highest level. There will always be some that choose this route. The two guys for Clemson and a couple from OSU are doing the same. Hell Fournette did the same thing. I dont know where Jalin will be drafted but if he is taken in the 1st thats 10m guaranteed
 
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BigALWiLson said:
He came back and played..... who would playing in this game benefit more Hyatt or Tillman to show he is healed up right ? Has a big game and helps his draft stock.... Where as Jalin is already a high draft pick chancing first money or falling to a 3 rd or lower pick because of injury... Think about the ND lb that tore his acl playing in a bowl game, went from a sure fire 1st rd pick to 5th round and getting 700k from insurance. Losing 20m guaranteed
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Tillman will be picked before Hyatt. Maybe they shouldn't play football if they are worried about getting hurt it's part of the game. And since Tillman is injured yes I give him a pass he played last year in the bowl and he came back and Hyatt is quitting and not even playing in the bowl game he is a junior with one good year he could play the bowl as a Junior it's week that he isn't playing.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
I dont know why they are not playing or if they will play the whole game. Nor do I give a damn if either have good pro careers. Jalin chose TN. I wish him the best. It was a hell of a season and yes I wish he were going to play. I also understand why he isn't from a business stand point. He has proven himself at the highest level. There will always be some that choose this route. The two guys for Clemson and a couple from OSU are doing the same. Hell Fournette did the same thing. I dont know where Jalin will be drafted but if he is taken in the 1st thats 10m guaranteed
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I hope he's a first round pick.
 
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Maybe their contract or NIL deal should include insurance in case of loss of career from injury and requirement they play in all Bowl or Championship games...a no "opt out" rule. Given the money they are receiving now to play, maybe time to include these clauses in their contracts including "setting a good example for all college students". You would think their time at UT, perks, free room, board, and education, and VFL if they go into anything like a business in the State of Tennessee, would matter. Makes me appreciate the Josh Dobbs and Peyton Manning's of the world more each day.
 
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Vol_Dad2408 said:
I appreciate the thread!

to add to the list -

Clemson
DJ Uiagalelei (Transfer Portal)
Lyn-J Dixon (Transfer Portal)
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Lmao those are a stretch! Lyn-J was not part of this year's Clemson team. You might as well list him as a hold out for Tennessee as well, by that logic!

I'd say judging the performance of Clemson's freshman QB in the ACC Championship game, losing Ukulele is addition by subtraction.
 
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#65
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rocytop2624 said:
Tillman will be picked before Hyatt. Maybe they shouldn't play football if they are worried about getting hurt it's part of the game. And since Tillman is injured yes I give him a pass he played last year in the bowl and he came back and Hyatt is quitting and not even playing in the bowl game he is a junior with one good year he could play the bowl as a Junior it's week that he isn't playing.
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We will see wont we. Hyatt has speed Tillman doesn't. Tillman can get a 50/50 ball but he isn't out running anyone in the NFL. It can be argued Tillman coming back hurt his draft stock
 
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87&91ALUM said:
Maybe their contract or NIL deal should include insurance in case of loss of career from injury and requirement they play in all Bowl or Championship games...a no "opt out" rule. Given the money they are receiving now to play, maybe time to include these clauses in their contracts including "setting a good example for all college students". You would think their time at UT, perks, free room, board, and education, and VFL if they go into anything like a business in the State of Tennessee, would matter. Makes me appreciate the Josh Dobbs and Peyton Manning's of the world more each day.
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Yeah maybe but those insurance policies do not pay like you would think. The kid from ND got 700k from the policy. He lost a net of about 20m according to the article
 
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87&91ALUM said:
Maybe their contract or NIL deal should include insurance in case of loss of career from injury and requirement they play in all Bowl or Championship games...a no "opt out" rule. Given the money they are receiving now to play, maybe time to include these clauses in their contracts including "setting a good example for all college students". You would think their time at UT, perks, free room, board, and education, and VFL if they go into anything like a business in the State of Tennessee, would matter. Makes me appreciate the Josh Dobbs and Peyton Manning's of the world more each day.
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C'mon people; understand what NIL deals are, which are private business transactions. Players get paid by a company to endorse product so they can sell more. It's not dependent upon or limited to college play unless the deal is structured that way. In fact, being endorsed by a player who just went pro is probably much more lucrative, so why would the business limit themselves as you suggest? It's also illegal in some states. You want them locked in, petition the school to structure scholarships that way and good luck with that recruiting strategy.

You would think their time at UT making millions for the school, putting the team back on the map, living & breathing football for three years would matter to thankless fans.
Their "time at UT, perks, free room, board, and education" wasn't "free" - FFS - it too was a business deal and the school got a steal of a deal. Opt-outs are opting for a better opportunity, just like coaches, administrators, and everyone else in society.
 
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NCFisher said:
C'mon people; understand what NIL deals are, which are private business transactions. Players get paid by a company to endorse product so they can sell more. It's not dependent upon or limited to college play unless the deal is structured that way. In fact, being endorsed by a player who just went pro is probably much more lucrative, so why would the business limit themselves as you suggest? It's also illegal in some states. You want them locked in, petition the school to structure scholarships that way and good luck with that recruiting strategy.

You would think their time at UT making millions for the school, putting the team back on the map, living & breathing football for three years would matter to thankless fans.
Their "time at UT, perks, free room, board, and education" wasn't "free" - FFS - it too was a business deal and the school got a steal of a deal. Opt-outs are opting for a better opportunity, just like coaches, administrators, and everyone else in society.
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"steal of a deal"....LOL "their" time at UT making millions for the school...Good grief. So the University, staff, and everything else that make UT...well...UT, isn't contributing jack? All that merch, tickets, fees, State money, business deals, educating students, and on and on is worthless? I don't want any of what you are drinking. I think we understand the NIL deals better than you. I didn't say the businesses should limit themselves and if I were an athlete, I would be looking at deals and insurance for sure. I credit UT for giving me an education that made me millions over my career and I paid for most of my education by working. "Thankless fans"...you haven't a clue. Keep fishing NC. Racist much?
 
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87&91ALUM said:
Leonard Fournette's $10M policies and the unregulated world of player protection
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Did you read the article. It plainly states it will give him 10m if his career is ended. Has nothing to do with draft stock. In other words if he is drafted he doesnt get sh1t for the injury. Im sure the lb from ND had all the policies too. He got a whopping 700k and slipped to the 5th rd after being a top 10 draft pick. The other policy would give him 10 m if his stock fell due to an injury. So there is that bright note
 
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