Oregon easiest path to bcs NC game ever?

#51
#51
IMO this year was all-around pretty weak for college football.

Oregon is put together nicely, and would probably be 10-2 or 11-1 most years and in the Rose Bowl. But the Pac-10 had a nice OOC start then kind of fell apart after that, except for Stanford. And Auburn, honestly, how many years could a team with THAT bad of a defense run the table in the SEC? It seems like nearly every team they played could score on the War-Eagle-Tiger-Plainsmen at will if they weren't shooting themselves in the foot. Nebraska was a fraud, Oklahoma struggled at times, nobody in the Big Ten could elevate from good to great, and the ACC and Big Least were as watered down as ever.
 
#52
#52
MaehlMan said:
14th in scoring defense.
7th in turnover margin.
21st in sacks.
4th in interceptions.
25th in total defense.
10th in opponent 3rd down conversions.

That's more like a very good defense, actually. All this is while being on the field for the most time in the country because of the extremely low TOP that the offense has.
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Stat away. I've seen the games, the runs, the porous coverage. Stat away...
 
#53
#53
ABQduck said:
Stat away. I've seen the games, the runs, the porous coverage. Stat away...
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I've seen every minute of every game, and the only poor point for the defense is the power running game. They are opportunistic, fast, good in coverage, and they tackle well.
 
#54
#54
Yep, managed to go see the Ducks in Autzen this year myself. I was as impressed as ever with the offense, but came away feeling underwhelmed with the defense. It's decent, but nothing to write home about, and I also noticed how small the front 7 seemed to be -- Cam Newton is going to have a field day with that group.
 
#55
#55
milohimself said:
IMO this year was all-around pretty weak for college football.

Oregon is put together nicely, and would probably be 10-2 or 11-1 most years and in the Rose Bowl. But the Pac-10 had a nice OOC start then kind of fell apart after that, except for Stanford. And Auburn, honestly, how many years could a team with THAT bad of a defense run the table in the SEC? It seems like nearly every team they played could score on the War-Eagle-Tiger-o great, and the ACC and Big Least were as watered Plainsmen at will if they weren't shooting themselves in the foot. Nebraska was a fraud, Oklahoma struggled at times, nobody in the Big Ten could elevate from good tdown as ever.
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I agree that this wasn't the strongest year for college football, but you can't really deny that Auburn and Oregon aren't two great teams.

This is the most excitement nationally that I've seen for a championship game since Texas/USC.
 
#56
#56
milohimself said:
Yep, managed to go see the Ducks in Autzen this year myself. I was as impressed as ever with the offense, but came away feeling underwhelmed with the defense. It's decent, but nothing to write home about, and I also noticed how small the front 7 seemed to be -- Cam Newton is going to have a field day with that group.
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Just like Oregon was going to be doomed this year because of their road schedule, eh? :)
 
#57
#57
MaehlMan said:
I've seen every minute of every game, and the only poor point for the defense is the power running game. They are opportunistic, fast, good in coverage, and they tackle well.
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The Ducks defense is fast and well-disciplined, unfortunately stopping Newton and Dyer requires NFL bodies.
 
#58
#58
MaehlMan said:
I've seen every minute of every game, and the only poor point for the defense is the power running game. They are opportunistic, fast, good in coverage, and they tackle well.
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Plus and minus. 3rd down D against UA was pathetic. As were many, many plays, and a few lucky penalties as I recall. The D is good to average mostly. And luckily average has been ok when the offense scores. Not so as in the Cal game.
 
#59
#59
MaehlMan said:
I agree that this wasn't the strongest year for college football, but you can't really deny that Auburn and Oregon aren't two great teams.

This is the most excitement nationally that I've seen for a championship game since Texas/USC.
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Only because everybody knows there is going to be about 100 total points.
 
#61
#61
MaehlMan said:
Just like Oregon was going to be doomed this year because of their road schedule, eh? :)
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Yes, DuckinTN... ERM MaehlMan, I whiffed, but I and everybody else here thought the Pac-10 looked MUCH better in late September than it turned out being.
 
#62
#62
milohimself said:
Yes, DuckinTN... ERM MaehlMan, I whiffed, but I and everybody else here thought the Pac-10 looked MUCH better in late September than it turned out being.
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:)

Hey, at least we're on the same page. I'm not here to be a dick, I promise. I'll eat my crow if we lose.
 
#63
#63
And the '05 BCSMNCG wasn't a particularly high-scoring affair until Young and Leinart went buckwild in the fourth quarter.
 
#64
#64
milohimself said:
And the '05 BCSMNCG wasn't a particularly high-scoring affair until Young and Leinart went buckwild in the fourth quarter.
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I can actually sort of see this one being more low-scoring in the first half than people anticipate. 36 days off, offenses might be semi-rusty.

I hope Cam gets fat off of the buffets at all of his award shows.
 
#67
#67
4 Ranked Opponents is a respectable number for TN, and didn't the SEC add a 12th game the schedule since TN played in 1998? And the Pac-10 only has one Top 25 win this year for the whole conference.
 
#68
#68
vols-1 said:
4 Ranked Opponents is a respectable number for TN, and didn't the SEC add a 12th game the schedule since TN played in 1998? And the Pac-10 only has one Top 25 win this year for the whole conference.
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Not like they didn't try. Arizona had Iowa, Arizona State had Wisconsin, UCLA had Texas, USC and Stanford had ND, Oregon had us, Oregon State had Boise and TCU, Washington had Nebraska and BYU, Wazzu had Okie Lite.

Most other years that would be seriously stiff OOC competition for all the teams in the conference (maybe except ND) but not all of them panned out that way.
 
#69
#69
milohimself said:
Not like they didn't try. Arizona had Iowa, Arizona State had Wisconsin, UCLA had Texas, USC and Stanford had ND, Oregon had us, Oregon State had Boise and TCU, Washington had Nebraska and BYU, Wazzu had Okie Lite.

Most other years that would be seriously stiff OOC competition for all the teams in the conference (maybe except ND) but not all of them panned out that way.
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Arizona State pissed that Wisconsin game away, dammit. Blocked PAT and a kick return one yard short of the goal line screwed them over.
 
#70
#70
ukvols said:
It guarantees 5 losses, but it also guarantees 5 wins. And, that doesn't change how bad Oregon's non-conference schedule is. Of course, it's not your fault we ended up doing little to boost your schedule.
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This is misleading. Those could be 5 wins with no added losses if they were against under .500 vs. BCS foes OOC teams like many other conferences schedule.

droski said:
not saying they didn't deserve to go the nc game. they did. i do think this indicates that perhaps this appearance is of the fluke variety rather than the first of a string of future appearances and pac-10 domination as duck fans delusionaly believe. i very much doubt this oregon team woudl have run the table in the pac-10 from say 2003-2008 for instance.
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Here we go again. At the beginning of the year, you told us all that Oregon was going to suck. Half-way through the season, you told us to bank on them having a melt-down.

Now that they've finished the regular season undefeated, it's only because it was a fluke.

Can your bias be any more transparent? If Oregon has another similar run in the future, you'll claim that they need to cure a major disease in order to be legit.

droski said:
your recruiting isn't even in the top-10 this year which is pretty unbelievable considering the ridiculous amount of press you have gotten. i can't see how you make that leap unless that starts improving.
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Recruiting rankings are cumulative. If you sort teams by average recruit ranking, it shows that Oregon has been picking up high quality players. And there's a lot of commitments left to be made.

droski said:
if you haven't noticed the pac-10 was particurally awful this and last year you just haven't been paying attention. i realize you guys have a bit of a groupthink problem there in the middle of nowhere, but try to be somewhat unbaised occasionally.
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Based on their OOC performance, they are good this year. Sharing wins and losses in conference just shows that there was a lot of parity.

milohimself said:
Oregon is put together nicely, and would probably be 10-2 or 11-1 most years and in the Rose Bowl. But the Pac-10 had a nice OOC start then kind of fell apart after that, except for Stanford.
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There was a lot of parity in the Pac-10. If they were all #1 caliber, someone would have to take losses anyway.
 
#72
#72
wheaton4prez said:
Based on their OOC performance, they are good this year. Sharing wins and losses in conference just shows that there was a lot of parity.
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Really? Because the Pac-10, as a conference, has a single win over a top #25 team. And that was a conference win. The Pac-10's best OOC win, was over a 7-5 Iowa squad.

There were however quite a few OOC loses against teams above .500. :yes:
 
#73
#73
The Pac-10 beating those opponents played a role in where they were eventually ranked.

Besides, at most, that speaks to OOC strength. Which is to say nothing about the strength of the teams that played that schedule.
 
#74
#74
wheaton4prez said:
The Pac-10 beating those opponents played a role in where they were eventually ranked.

Besides, at most, that speaks to OOC strength. Which is to say nothing about the strength of the teams that played that schedule.
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Which means what? That Pac-10 fans gloating about their "tough" OOC schedule is irrelevant because they often lose the games where they're matched up against teams above .500?
 
#75
#75
Just let droski and everyone else who doubts stay in denial and believe that Oregon isn't really that great and that this is all a fluke. It'll help them stay happy during bowl season. (is Cal participating in one of those bowls?)
 
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