Oregon's Cliff Harris

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#27
This actually sounds like a legal problem but nothing that should get the NCAA involved with what we know as of now.
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MaehlMan said:
Ok, but what's the rule? What are the specifics of what is considered to be an improper benefit?
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A guy that can't legally rent a car paying someone else to rent it for him.

The NCAA can say his status as an athlete is the only reason he had the car.

How many other cars has his "friend" rented for non-athletes at Oregon?
 
#32
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pl3 said:
got busted driving 118 mph in a 2011 Altima. 2 other Oregon players in car, which was not registered to him or the other passengers.

All I have to say is that since I had an altima in '95, they have evidently stepped up a little. Mine would have stopped at 80 mph and asked what the hell I was doing.
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Speed kills, and so does stupidity.
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justingroves said:
A guy that can't legally rent a car paying someone else to rent it for him.

The NCAA can say his status as an athlete is the only reason he had the car.

How many other cars has his "friend" rented for non-athletes at Oregon?
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There's no way that can be proven. Especially because the employee that got it for him isn't an employee of the athletic department.
 
#34
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Wait a minute...
This is the same guy that had a pick six against us last season. I just figured that out.
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MaehlMan said:
There's no way that can be proven. Especially because the employee that got it for him isn't an employee of the athletic department.
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What is there to prove? You already said that the employee admitted it. You posted quotes from a newspaper article. It makes no difference whether that person was an employee of the athletic department or not. She is an employee of the university. If it were as simple as having a university employee from another department other than the AD do the dirty work, then every player at Auburn and Alabama would be receiving bags full of cash from the School of Business.
 
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Vol423 said:
What is there to prove? You already said that the employee admitted it. You posted quotes from a newspaper article. It makes no difference whether that person was an employee of the athletic department or not. She is an employee of the university. If it were as simple as having a university employee from another department other than the AD do the dirty work, then every player at Auburn and Alabama would be receiving bags full of cash from the School of Business.
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It can't be proven the other students wouldn't be able to receive that "benefit" also.
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justingroves said:
A guy that can't legally rent a car paying someone else to rent it for him.

The NCAA can say his status as an athlete is the only reason he had the car.

How many other cars has his "friend" rented for non-athletes at Oregon?
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The important question is how many the friend rented to other athletes. But unless it's a systemwide thing, this may be against the law and a misdemeanor but doesn't seem like a major NCAA violation at all.
 
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MaehlMan said:
It can't be proven the other students wouldn't be able to receive that "benefit" also.
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Man don't sweat it. Your not gonna win on this board. The reality of the situation seems to be that the only rules broken were traffic violations for Harris and a breach of contract between the renter of the car and the leasing company. There is no compliance issue there.
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#39
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I agree that there is probably not a compliance issue, but it seems like there are some wacky things that are compliance issues.
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droski said:
oregon employee loaned it to him. chippy is running one hell of a dirty program.
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VKAman said:
The important question is how many the friend rented to other athletes. But unless it's a systemwide thing, this may be against the law and a misdemeanor but doesn't seem like a major NCAA violation at all.
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You give the NCAA a reason to snoop around and they will find things.

Between the Seastrunk recruitment and this, I'm willing to bet the NCAA is looking at Oregon a little closer.
 
#44
#44
We can only hope this little insignificance will spur a full fledged investigation and bring Oregon to their knees by.... 2013
 
#45
#45
smells big time. this guy rents the car for $300 a day from her? oregon is so screwed.
 
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ABQduck said:
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yes i'm bitter that oregon has been running a thug program and getting away with cheating since chippy took over at least and probably well into teh bellotti era. sorry if i don't appreciate people getting away with cheating.
 
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MaehlMan said:
It can't be proven the other students wouldn't be able to receive that "benefit" also.
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The 'AA doesnt have to really prove anything. Also, what person would logically believe that any student would get this benefit if they arent an athelete?
 
#48
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MaehlMan said:
There's no way that can be proven. Especially because the employee that got it for him isn't an employee of the athletic department.
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Dosn't matter, same would apply if she was not even an employee.
 
#49
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Even if it is deemed as an improper benefit, a $300 "benefit" isn't going to bring the house down on a program.
 
#50
#50
Seems like this is logical to me.

A compliance official from another school suggested Tuesday that, if the facts as currently understood are true, the payment to Schmidling would likely protect the players’ eligibility. The loan of the car would be ruled an extra benefit, and Oregon would report it as such to the Pac-10 — the first step in such situations — but because it was of no monetary value, the players’ eligibility would not be threatened.
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Oregon football: Was car rental an NCAA violation for Cliff Harris? | Compliance officials question employee who loaned rental car to Cliff Harris, a possible NCAA violation
 
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