Oregon's Cliff Harris

#53
#53
MaehlMan said:
I'm sure stuff like this has happened before also. I'm also sure that it happens at virtually every major D-1 program. Your point?
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every major program is renting cars for players? and you are high if you think this "rental" was only for that day. i love the old "everyone else is cheating so it's ok" argument. plenty of programs don't do crap like that.
 
#54
#54
justingroves said:
You give the NCAA a reason to snoop around and they will find things.

Between the Seastrunk recruitment and this, I'm willing to bet the NCAA is looking at Oregon a little closer.
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Right, I wasn't thinking about the Seastrunk thing.

Either way, I'd love to see the NCAA slam Oregon but I'm trying to temper my hopes for now.
 
#55
#55
droski said:
every major program is renting cars for players? and you are high if you think this "rental" was only for that day. i love the old "everyone else is cheating so it's ok" argument. plenty of programs don't do crap like that.
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Like your precious Cal, right?
 
#56
#56
MaehlMan said:
Like your precious Cal, right?
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your own prior coach called tedford a boy scout on multiple occasions. bellotti effectively admitted we were far cleaner than you. why is it that all these things only seem to come up about oregon and usc in the pac-10?
 
#61
#61
justingroves said:
That makes no sense.

Is he suspended indefinitely or suspended for one game?
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It means that he is suspended indefinitely from team activities at the current time, which basically means practice when fall starts up, and he is suspended for the opener against LSU.
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#62
#62
MaehlMan said:
It means that he is suspended indefinitely from team activities at the current time, which basically means practice when fall starts up, and he is suspended for the opener against LSU.
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So he's back after the LSU game?

I hope you see how dumb it is to say someone is suspended indefinitely and then say they are suspended for the first game too.
 
#63
#63
justingroves said:
So he's back after the LSU game?

I hope you see how dumb it is to say someone is suspended indefinitely and then say they are suspended for the first game too.
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He's back after LSU if he behaves.

I don't think it's dumb. What if the coach decides to let him back for the last week of fall practice based on good behavior, but still doesn't want him to play against LSU?
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#64
#64
MaehlMan said:
He's back after LSU if he behaves.

I don't think it's dumb. What if the coach decides to let him back for the last week of fall practice based on good behavior, but still doesn't want him to play against LSU?
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then it is not an indefinite suspension.
 
#65
#65
Suspended from practice? I shouldve been as lucky.
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#66
#66
MaehlMan said:
He's back after LSU if he behaves.

I don't think it's dumb. What if the coach decides to let him back for the last week of fall practice based on good behavior, but still doesn't want him to play against LSU?
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You are suspended indefinitely but for a definite amount time... is what they are saying. They are throwing indefinitely on there to make it sound worse.
 
#69
#69
MaehlMan said:
Meyer wouldn't have suspended his team's best defensive player for a traffic violation against a top-5 opponent.
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b s. first off lets see if the kid doesn't play before patting chippy on the back. second this is hardly his first run in with the law and going 50 miles over the speed limit on a suspended license hardly is a jaywalking ticket. he'd be kicked off any team that had some balls.
 
#70
#70
droski said:
b s. first off lets see if the kid doesn't play before patting chippy on the back. second this is hardly his first run in with the law and going 50 miles over the speed limit on a suspended license hardly is a jaywalking ticket. he'd be kicked off any team that had some balls.
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Oh my god. You think he should be kicked off the team? That's gold.
 
#71
#71
MaehlMan said:
Oh my god. You think he should be kicked off the team? That's gold.
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of course he should. this is his 11th outstanding fine ranging from underage drinking to assaulting a police officer. and that doesn't include his JV record which is masoliesque. a team with morals never woudl have recruited the thug. your defense of chippy in this manner is disgusting and pathetic.
 
#72
#72
name another pac-12 team that wouldn't have kicked him off the team? OSU, USC, Cal, and even ASU have kicked people off the teams for far less.
 
#73
#73
droski said:
of course he should. this is his 11th outstanding fine ranging from underage drinking to assaulting a police officer. and that doesn't include his JV record which is masoliesque. a team with morals never woudl have recruited the thug. your defense of chippy in this manner is disgusting and pathetic.
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This is actually his 8th outstanding fine (but 11, 8, that's still bad, I agree)

I agree with you in the fact that he obviously has major problems regarding his judgment. He's immature. I think the assault was overblown because he became involved after his brother and an FSU campus PD officer got involved in an altercation. Was stupid for him to intercede, but I think stepping in while your brother is getting his ass beaten isn't much more than a natural reaction.

The traffic violations and failures to show up for court are obviously getting embarrassing. I don't know if he doesn't show up because he doesn't have the money to pay, or if it's out of pure laziness. I don't want to pretend to know the specifics of a situation that I'm not intimately familiar with.

Suspending him for the LSU game is appropriate. For a person that loves the bright lights and attention like Cliff does, suspending him for the LSU game is going to hurt. Missing a game between two top 5 opponents on the national stage is going to suck. I hope this teaches him.

I think it would be inappropriate to kick him off the team, because he has done nothing violent or especially egregious during his time at Oregon. He's had an MIP and a bunch of speeding tickets. I'd be willing to bet that most students, while in college, get MIPs or speeding tickets. It's about par for the course for college kids with their heads up their asses.

I can't answer your question about how many coaches in the conference would kick him off the team, because that's a ridiculous question that can't be answered.
 
#74
#74
it's not a ridiculous question. look at other teams that have had similar infractions and tell me with a straight face taht oregon isn't letting a lot more stuff slide.
 
#75
#75
droski said:
it's not a ridiculous question. look at other teams that have had similar infractions and tell me with a straight face taht oregon isn't letting a lot more stuff slide.
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Yes, it is a ridiculous question. It's completely hypothetical and we don't know how other coaches would react.
 
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