Orson Charles (announcing at 4:30 pm EST)

[g8terh8ter_eric]

well i hope your wrong on this one.

Moving a guy who is 6-2 and can't block a DE or blitzing LB is necessary when he can out jump most if not all the guys we have at WR right now. Moving a 6-8 guy who isn't really that fast and can't stretch the field to a spot where he athleticism can be harnessed and he can have a career is genius. Kiffin doesn't us a TE very often in his offense, IIRC.

 

[volguy0992]

Me to I hope this guy is an idiot with no source (schubert) and he starts singing rockytop at his press conference.

 

[utVOLman]

all the brilliant recruiting prognosticators are merely picking UGA at this point because it is the safest bet...

Charles has always been considered a UGA lean...that is all they are going on

 

[millst987]

I know and agree 100% with you but why was Warrens move such a media magnet. Is it because we suck so bad at WR?

 

[BYUVol]

Vols' Douglas moving from tight end to tackle - College Football Nation - ESPN


ESPN now picked up the story, KNS should be following in a day or so. If OC is still undecided, this certainly can't hurt.

 

[thunder5]

all the brilliant recruiting prognosticators are merely picking UGA at this point because it is the safest bet...

Charles has always been considered a UGA lean...that is all they are going on

Yeah...this is definitely a cop out on their part...

The funny thing to me is that most of them cite the "best friend" connection with Aaron Murray as the reason for this "lean"...

But Charles only played with Murray for one season and has basically said that 1.) his relationship with Murray isn't that tight and 2.) whatever that relationship is it won't effect his decision...

Yet the 'experts" are still using it as the reason that they think he's a UGA lean....brilliant!!

 

[VolSwaff]

Yeah...this is definitely a cop out on their part...

The funny thing to me is that most of them cite the "best friend" connection with Aaron Murray as the reason for this "lean"...

But Charles only played with Murray for one season and has basically said that 1.) his relationship with Murray isn't that tight and 2.) whatever that relationship is it won't effect his decision...

Yet the 'experts" are still using it as the reason that they think he's a UGA lean....brilliant!!

The recruiting mods haven't had him to UGA at all. I think everyone at Rivals would be stunned if he goes outside Tennessee and SoCal.

 

[CO Vol]

Scout.com: Big Fish Will Visit L.A.

I'm always going back to his quote in this article where he says "us", as in UT. I just don't see recruits saying these things if they don't see themselves playing for that school.

You factor in the Lynch situation with UGA, UGA telling 2010 QB recruit Sims that they are thinking of moving Mettenberger to TE, UT moving Warren to WR, Douglas to OT which means UT hasn't signed a TE in 3 classes, and this all leads to him signing with UT.

If his heart and prayers lead him to UGA, that's one thing, but his mind should lead him to UT, because we have the best opportunity for him imo.

 

[govols182]

Scout.com: Big Fish Will Visit L.A.

I'm always going back to his quote in this article where he says "us", as in UT. I just don't see recruits saying these things if they don't see themselves playing for that school.

You factor in the Lynch situation with UGA, UGA telling 2010 QB recruit Sims that they are thinking of moving Mettenberger to TE, UT moving Warren to WR, Douglas to OT which means UT hasn't signed a TE in 3 classes, and this all leads to him signing with UT.

If his heart and prayers lead him to UGA, that's one thing, but his mind should lead him to UT, because we have the best opportunity for him imo.

Sorry but I want our players hearts to be here with their minds. No heart equals no emotion.
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[CO Vol]

Sorry but I want our players hearts to be here with their minds. No heart equals no emotion.
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I'm with you, but what I'm saying is Richt has the heartstrings pull for kids who are religious. Charles routinely is quoted as saying he'll pray for this, pray for that, and that leads me to believe UGA will be a tough battle on that front.

 

[thunder5]

Scout.com: Big Fish Will Visit L.A.

I'm always going back to his quote in this article where he says "us", as in UT. I just don't see recruits saying these things if they don't see themselves playing for that school.

You factor in the Lynch situation with UGA, UGA telling 2010 QB recruit Sims that they are thinking of moving Mettenberger to TE, UT moving Warren to WR, Douglas to OT which means UT hasn't signed a TE in 3 classes, and this all leads to him signing with UT.

If his heart and prayers lead him to UGA, that's one thing, but his mind should lead him to UT, because we have the best opportunity for him imo.

We all know Richt has God on his side ...just ask Marlon Brown's grandma

 

[Sabanocchio]

Moving a guy who is 6-2 and can't block a DE or blitzing LB is necessary when he can out jump most if not all the guys we have at WR right now. Moving a 6-8 guy who isn't really that fast and can't stretch the field to a spot where he athleticism can be harnessed and he can have a career is genius. Kiffin doesn't us a TE very often in his offense, IIRC.

I strongly disagree. Now there is a story on Douglas moving to T on ESPN. Yeah you move some guys out of necessity, but you don't talk to the media about it generally. It just happens and is picked up on eventually. This is a clear signal to Orson Charles that the coaches back up what they tell him. I think it also signals that the coaches feel like they are behind on Orson at this point. Might swing him our way might not. Depends on how big of a pull UGA is.

Also I disagree with it being between UGA and USC. USC is not in this race really. They are on his list because of the visit buzz. Distance will play a factor there.

 

[rexvol]

I still say that CPC reels him in

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I strongly disagree. Now there is a story on Douglas moving to T on ESPN. Yeah you move some guys out of necessity, but you don't talk to the media about it generally. It just happens and is picked up on eventually. This is a clear signal to Orson Charles that the coaches back up what they tell him. I think it also signals that the coaches feel like they are behind on Orson at this point. Might swing him our way might not. Depends on how big of a pull UGA is.

Also I disagree with it being between UGA and USC. USC is not in this race really. They are on his list because of the visit buzz. Distance will play a factor there.

This is just something that has been released as a depth chart procedure and happens every spring and fall. Our local media has usually always been informed of moves like this. Even if it's a play to get Charles, I believe that Charles will be a WR here anyways since traditionally Kiffin doesn't use the TE much in the passing game. I could be wrong about how he uses them, but I don't remember that position being one of star power at USC when he was there or since. The TE is not used very much for other than blocking.

 

[JZVOL]

i used to post as volball333 until everyone started picking on me

hahahahaha!!!

Maybe if you didn't claim to be a former holder and backup punter...

 

[chavisut]

This is just something that has been released as a depth chart procedure and happens every spring and fall. Our local media has usually always been informed of moves like this. Even if it's a play to get Charles, I believe that Charles will be a WR here anyways since traditionally Kiffin doesn't use the TE much in the passing game. I could be wrong about how he uses them, but I don't remember that position being one of star power at USC when he was there or since. The TE is not used very much for other than blocking.

Fred Davis
Dominique Byrd

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Fred Davis
Dominique Byrd

Fyp, and good call. I just don't think that TE is a position of need right now. Having more big WR's is and Charles fits that bill. I don't think he would be a great blocker either in the SEC.

 

[chavisut]

Meant to put Byrd, have no idea why I typed Boyd. DB pulled in one of the best one handed graps I've ever seen.

 

[matts42012]

imo, charles will eventually move to WR. just my opinion. I think stocker will have a breakout year.

 

[govols87]

Kiffin utilized the TE fairly often. Those in bold are TE's.

2005
RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
Jarrett, Dwayne 13 91 1274 14.0 16 61 98.0
Smith, Steve 13 60 957 15.9 5 67 73.6
Bush, Reggie 13 37 478 12.9 2 43 36.8
Byrd, Dominique 12 29 306 10.6 0 52 25.5
Kirtman, David 13 22 281 12.8 1 42 21.6
McFoy, Chris 13 17 172 10.1 0 16 13.2
White, LenDale 13 14 219 15.6 2 49 16.8
Davis, Fred 13 13 145 11.2 2 24 11.2
Turner, Patrick 12 12 170 14.2 2 31 14.2
Hancock, B. 13 9 102 11.3 0 21 7.8
Miller, Jimmy 13 3 8 2.7 2 4 0.6
Carlson, Greig 2 1 14 14.0 0 14 7.0

Leinart, Matt 13 1 11 11.0 0 11 0.8
Brittingham, M. 13 1 9 9.0 0 9 0.7
Vanderboom, N. 12 1 6 6.0 0 6 0.5
Thompson, Dale 10 1 5 5.0 0 5 0.5
Total.......... 13 312 4157 13.3 32 67 319.8
Opponents...... 13 270 2995 11.1 18 45 230.4
2004
RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------
Jarrett, Dwayne 13 55 849 15.4 13 57 65.3
Bush, Reggie 13 43 509 11.8 7 69 39.2
Smith, Steve 8 42 660 15.7 6 51 82.5
Byrd, D. 9 37 384 10.4 3 33 42.7
Holmes, Alex 13 24 244 10.2 0 48 18.8
McFoy, Chris 12 21 272 13.0 0 31 22.7
Kirtman, David 13 19 161 8.5 1 26 12.4
Mitchell, Jason 12 13 226 17.4 2 33 18.8
White, LenDale 13 11 97 8.8 2 22 7.5
Webb, Lee 13 4 47 11.8 0 22 3.6
Davis, Fred 9 4 30 7.5 0 15 3.3
Buchanon, W. 12 4 15 3.8 0 6 1.2
Reed, Desmond 13 3 0 0.0 0 2 0.0
Walker, John 13 1 22 22.0 0 22 1.7
Adewale, Jody 5 1 16 16.0 0 16 3.2
Total.......... 13 282 3532 12.5 34 69 271.7
Opponents...... 13 246 2599 10.6 13 69 199.9

 

[rexvol]

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He told me in a text message that he hopes to make his decision March 6.
I have thought for the past month or so that Georgia is the team to beat, and I still favor the Bulldogs. But I know Tennessee made a good impression on him and that he also liked USC.

from Newberg

 

[kptvol]

Kiffin utilzes TEs a decent amount. Dominique Byrd was big at USC. Alex Holmes was alright. Fred Davis was with Kiffin for awhile, too. Zach Miller was OK for Oakland, too. Oops. I see someone already pointed this out.

 

[toxicdonut]

Dude is a beast.

 

[TennesseePride]

after all the drama.. I can say that the only recruit i want.. is charles.. I really think he will be an asset if we get him and I definitely do not want him going to UGA...

I hope he signs with us.. OKU I could care less about and Brown would be nice but I don't see it happening..

 

[govols182]

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Yeah, I'm honestly hesitant about Brown. Charles is my must get for this class.