OU Position Group Comparisons

#76
#76
DD4ME said:
A very balanced matchup for what should be a very fun game to watch. I give 3 pts to the home team and subtract 7 from the team with a brand new scheme in one of their first games of the season. Vols win by 10 in a contest dominated by both DL's. I suspect the turnover battle will be the big deciding point of who won. I highly doubt either team marches it up and down the field.
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24-14 VOLS

Points off of turnovers: 14 for vols 7 for OK.

Jail break run by Dobbs for a third TD and great defensive stand by OK to force FG for the final vol points.

Ok has an amazing opeinging drive that freaks everyone out then has to wait for an errant Dobbs throw and INT for their only other score off of short yardage.

Defensive battle most of the game.
 
#77
#77
Dpattr said:
Actually I do know Jack. Im a Vol season ticket holder. I was just checking with you. Every player on the Vols is not the best player at their position in the country though. In fact Sec Coaches put one on the first team. CFN news put the Vols RB's 9th in the SEC. Outside of this board there are different opinions of where this team is at right now. All we know is last year they barely made a bowl. Will they be improved? No doubt! Do I want them to win them all but the OU game. Yes. (I am a life long Sooner fan and graduate and moved here from Norman). I hope they put everything together this season. Right now OU is probably a better football team all around than UT, but we will see very soon.
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So you are chastising someone for homerism while being at least somewhat of a homer? If UT gets a possible slight edge at QB then the best OU should get at RB is the same. Perine had a great season but I'm sure Hurd would have loved to have had a KU on the schedule so to say that is such a clear edge for OU...

I guess my point is that you make a post that is almost purely subjective and then bristle that a UT fan without split loyalties would disagree with you.
 
#78
#78
Dpattr said:
So how did OU win by 24 last season? It is basically the same players this year, both teams have newcomers that will help on both sides. OU was just as young (outside of OL), and probably younger with only 12 Seniors this year on the roster. UT was outmatched in the last meeting. Is coaching that much of a difference? Cant have it both ways...if the players are better, it has to be coaching. Homefield doesn't account for 24 points in most cases.
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QB play will be the biggest difference. If you watched any of the game last year, you would have noticed that Worley was a sitting duck. He had wide open running lanes but refused to take them. If that happens this year its 6pts. You can bet your house on that.
 
#79
#79
What about the kicking game/special teams? Could definitely be a factor in a close game.
 
#82
#82
QB: Vols, Dobbs has better mobility and may make better decisions.
RB: OU, Mixon, Perine, Ross, Brooks slightly beats out Heard and AK
WR: OU: Shepard, Westbrook. Many other notables slightly beats out north and company
O-Line: Even nothing to say much here but they are both slightly below average-average (Weakest position for both teams.)
DT: Vols, have the potential to be the best in SEC this year.
DE: Even
OLB: OU, Eric Striker
MLB: OU, OU is quite deep at this position rn
CB: Even. Sanchez (Best b12 corner) vs our two really good corners
S: Vols, OU was terrible here last year but Kerry Cooks imo will whip OU's group into shape.
ST: OU (best kick returner and a really good kicker and punter.)
 
#86
#86
turambar85 said:
How bad is your o-line? I can't imagine it is worse than ours. That is at worst a draw.

And our d-line gets an edge. Change those two and you *might* be right. But I'd be curious about ST. I don't know your players there, but Medley is a fantastic young kicker, we were one of the best on kick coverage in the SEC last year, and we have electric kick returners. Punter is a question mark, but we should be at least okay there when someone wins this competition.

I'd also say that RB is close to a wash. But I'll allow a *slight* edge, out of kindness.
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Athlon ranked Oklahoma o-line 7th our of 10 in the Big 12
 
#87
#87
sjt18 said:
So you are chastising someone for homerism while being at least somewhat of a homer? If UT gets a possible slight edge at QB then the best OU should get at RB is the same. Perine had a great season but I'm sure Hurd would have loved to have had a KU on the schedule so to say that is such a clear edge for OU...

I guess my point is that you make a post that is almost purely subjective and then bristle that a UT fan without split loyalties would disagree with you.
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I don't mind a different opinion than me, but assuming I don't know jack, or trolling is just not true.

anyway...I don't understand how anyone can knock Perine for setting an ncaa record! Really. Not directed to you, because so many others do it. Set record w 12:00 minutes to go and didn't start, in the rain, w a 3rd string qb. All the other rb's that have played KU last season (best by other back was 180)a couple others had barely over 100) couldn't do it, and everyone in the history of cfb playing worse teams couldn't do it. use it against other guys that they didn't get 150 against KU or 100. Just don't get how getting 400+ can be used as a negative against him!😃

Also, if u takeaway game vs KU. He finished with 1300 yards as a freshman.
 
#88
#88
I assume you mean Orlando Brown. As I mentioned earlier in this thread it appears he has won the starting LT job but the talk is that it's not so much how well he did but that the guy penciled in had a poor fall camp. Now Brown potentially should be another in a long list of great OU O-linemen but he is a RS freshman so he has a big learning curve. We have a great OL coach and Brown has the tools (6'8", 340lbs with great feet.
 
#89
#89
Silentsniper1516 said:
QB: Vols, Dobbs has better mobility and may make better decisions.
RB: OU, Mixon, Perine, Ross, Brooks slightly beats out Heard and AK
WR: OU: Shepard, Westbrook. Many other notables slightly beats out north and company
O-Line: Even nothing to say much here but they are both slightly below average-average (Weakest position for both teams.)
DT: Vols, have the potential to be the best in SEC this year.
DE: Even
OLB: OU, Eric Striker
MLB: OU, OU is quite deep at this position rn
CB: Even. Sanchez (Best b12 corner) vs our two really good corners
S: Vols, OU was terrible here last year but Kerry Cooks imo will whip OU's group into shape.
ST: OU (best kick returner and a really good kicker and punter.)
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UT will field two of the best DE's in college football. No idea where you get "even" on that one. WR is at worst even.
 
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#90
#90
Dpattr said:
I don't mind a different opinion than me, but assuming I don't know jack, or trolling is just not true.

anyway...I don't understand how anyone can knock Perine for setting an ncaa record! Really. Not directed to you, because so many others do it. Set record w 12:00 minutes to go and didn't start, in the rain, w a 3rd string qb. All the other rb's that have played KU last season (best by other back was 180)a couple others had barely over 100) couldn't do it, and everyone in the history of cfb playing worse teams couldn't do it. use it against other guys that they didn't get 150 against KU or 100. Just don't get how getting 400+ can be used as a negative against him!��

Also, if u takeaway game vs KU. He finished with 1300 yards as a freshman.
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No knock on Perine... just a response to your "knock" of Hurd and Kamara... if that's the way you've taken it.
 
#91
#91
FWIW, I think the RB comparison by OU fans is an extension of an absolutely incredible phenomenon this off-season. A 6'3", 242 lb RB with great quicks and a sub-4.4 40... has been dismissed with a hand wave.
 
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#92
#92
sjt18 said:
No knock on Perine... just a response to your "knock" of Hurd and Kamara... if that's the way you've taken it.
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I never said anything about Hurd and Kamara. really think both of them can be great players. I just pointed out in another post that not everyone is as high on them as this board is. You see the OU RB's listed on most everyone's top 5 list, not sure I've seen UT on any. Both very good for sure though.
 
#93
#93
Dpattr said:
I never said anything about Hurd and Kamara. really think both of them can be great players. I just pointed out in another post that not everyone is as high on them as this board is. You see the OU RB's listed on most everyone's top 5 list, not sure I've seen UT on any. Both very good for sure though.
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Sorry. But when you said that OU was better at RB... you DID say something about Hurd and Kamara. And as someone who follows the Vols, you should know that they are much better than the pre-season credit they're getting.
 
#94
#94
sjt18 said:
Sorry. But when you said that OU was better at RB... you DID say something about Hurd and Kamara. And as someone who follows the Vols, you should know that they are much better than the pre-season credit they're getting.
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if I did I got hacked! It wasn't me! Haha! I def. like both of them, just think OU is a little better at this position.
 
#95
#95
I can buy a "little better" based on what they've actually done. I think Hurd is going to be talked about A LOT more as the season progresses if he stays healthy.
 
#96
#96
sjt18 said:
I can buy a "little better" based on what they've actually done. I think Hurd is going to be talked about A LOT more as the season progresses if he stays healthy.
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I've heard a few guys who have witnessed practice say Kamara is better than Hurd. Swain was one of them. So, we know Hurd is a beast....and iirc, Kamara was rated higher coming out of highschool, and seems to be illustrating why on the practice field. Both, if healthy, will be special....as will Perine and Mixon IMO.
 
#98
#98
Perine does not run sub 4.4. He is in the low 4.5 range. He does have incredibly quick feet and balance along with power. He is very hard to bring down
 
#99
#99
owenfieldreams said:
Perine does not run sub 4.4. He is in the low 4.5 range. He does have incredibly quick feet and balance along with power. He is very hard to bring down
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The kid is special. Any human that can run for 427 yards in one game is special, I don't care who it was against. There will be at least 4 NFL caliber running backs in the game in Knoxville...Perine, Mixon, Hurd and Kamara. Should be fun.
 
#100
#100
Silentsniper1516 said:
QB: Vols, Dobbs has better mobility and may make better decisions.
RB: OU, Mixon, Perine, Ross, Brooks slightly beats out Heard and AK
WR: OU: Shepard, Westbrook. Many other notables slightly beats out north and company
O-Line: Even nothing to say much here but they are both slightly below average-average (Weakest position for both teams.)
DT: Vols, have the potential to be the best in SEC this year.
DE: Even
OLB: OU, Eric Striker
MLB: OU, OU is quite deep at this position rn
CB: Even. Sanchez (Best b12 corner) vs our two really good corners
S: Vols, OU was terrible here last year but Kerry Cooks imo will whip OU's group into shape.
ST: OU (best kick returner and a really good kicker and punter.)
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Explain who is better than Maggitt and Barnett at DE on your team please
 
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