Out of Curiosity...

[VolunteerTitan3]

Every hire stands on its own merits. I will support this hire until it is time not to support it. Being a whiny cry baby cant change the circumstances.

I agree, I don't understand what people expect we threw alot of money at bigger names but they wouldn't bite, so this is what we got. Are we supposed to force Gruden to take the job at gun point or something? Whining isn't going to change anything.

 

[Weezer]

Yeah, sometimes I feel like Hart could have gone out and hired Jerry Sandusky and most of this board would say "He's our coach, got to get behind him" and such.

That said, I like Butch Jones. I think he will win here. But, the whole crowd of people here who have to resort to insults to defend everything the UT administration does, is very tiresome.

Better to be behind Sandusky than him behind you.

 

[Unimane]

This is NOT Dooley. Anyone who compares Jones to Dooley looses all credibility.

No, you said that these sportswriters were all loving Jones and they know so much and I pointed out how that was not really a good example by showing their similar assessment of Dooley. The issue was the credibility of the sportswriters.

 

[Titleistvol]

I am sure you are a really smart guy and that you can foresee the future...but you might want to turn on the television and hear what people, who actually make their living commenting on sports, are saying. I have heard nothing but positive response. With the exception of few people that did not like the fact that he has no defense expertise. Which is obviously frustrating because that is really what we need. And, that is why I think that we pursued Strong over Jones first.

yup - pretty much all the major sports writers that cover ncaa fbs are throwing nothing but praise and roses at this hire. hell - what you're not hearing is that jones garners a lot of respect from the fbs coaching community and to a person say tennessee made the better hire than kentucky, arky and auburn.:rock:

 

[SUDSDRINKER]

since I've already seen it in many forms today, are people going to start using the following phrases again?

"He's our coach. Support him or GTFO."

"You're not VFL if you don't support the coach."

"Negavol"

There are many various, but I think you get the point. These phrases all served the blind lemmings so well with Dooley, so I'm glad they pulled them out again for the marginal hire we just made. I swear, if we put an orange tie on a trained monkey, some of you would think all "real fans" should support him, no questions asked. I could see the collective amnesia once people started swooning over a bunch of cliches at the opening press conference.

At some point, you have to start holding this administration accountable on the front end and not when they've blown everything up. Hiring a guy who's 14 and 9 in his crap conference and never won anything important to go head to head with Alabama and Florida is asinine.

Anyway, I just want you all to remember, when it goes bad for Jones (and it will), to go back to what was being said when Dooley was crashing the program and think twice about chastising people for not staying on the sinking ship.

Sooooooo I guess it's safe to say we will never have to see you on here again....Unless he does good that is. Sounds like a win win to me!

 

[Spartacavolus]

It's funny how pointing out the obvious and criticism becomes whiny when you don't toe the line like a good little soldier. Good luck with your phony happiness.

I don't know what to think of the hire yet. I don't know much about him in detail. I also didn't expect a big hire because I was fully aware of the hiring process and what was keeping coaches away. I am happy we have someone that wants to be here, and that's not phony.

Phony is pretending to know what the future holds. Phony is acting like you know more about football than Peyton, ESPN writers and Mort. Phony is criticizing a coaches future here that signed a contract this morning. Anybody can say he isn't going to make it. That's gutless. Not many coaches could come into UT with recruiting disadvantages and win a title playing the best of the best that are coached by the best.
If being a "good little soldier" means rolling with the punches and seeing what happens vs whining for another year like you and your ilk have done the last year, then call me a damn good little soldier all day.

 

[volgrl]

I will support this hire when I am given evidence to do so. I have seen none. It's not "whiny" to point out the fact that the sanctimonious ones harping on those who were being critical of Dooley were 100% wrong and that they are starting the process all over again.

Fantastic. So you are just being Debbie Downer so that you can say "I told you so." It's one thing to not be thrilled about a hire until you are proven wrong but to assume that this hire is terrible before the guy has even had a chance to prove you wrong is ridiculous. I can agree that he was not the home run that we needed and hoped for. But what the hell do we know anyway? Back him until he fails us. It takes a lot less energy to be positive than negative.

 

[Bubba Vol]

Seems to me like another panic hire. I was hoping we'd hire the other Butch. Guess not. We'll see if the money comes in from the boosters and fans as time passes.

 

[johndoevol]

I did not like the hire, but what can you do? change your affections to a different team? I can not do that. I guess I am a lemming or a sheep. I do not care, I will support our new coach until he gives me a reason not to.(just win baby)

 

[hillarious_vol]

We could hire Jesus H. Christ to coach this team, and people would say...Well Jesus dont have enough SEC experience, has Jesus ever faced down Alabama....dont call me a negavol b/c Jesus was hired and Gruden was not...STOP WATCHING THE VOLS...GO WATCH BAMA, VANDY, UK, ALASKA..IDK, Jones is a great hire...

 

[jimmiedee]

Butch was really schooled on what he's was going to say at the press meeting today sounded like hart wrote the script

 

[Titleistvol]

I did not like the hire, but what can you do? change your affections to a different team? I can not do that. I guess I am a lemming or a sheep. I do not care, I will support our new coach until he gives me a reason not to.(just win baby)

atta'boy...you're among friends!

 

[volgrl]

No, you said that these sportswriters were all loving Jones and they know so much and I pointed out how that was not really a good example by showing their similar assessment of Dooley. The issue was the credibility of the sportswriters.

It's a different type of response. They are saying different things. Listen and you will get what I am saying. Look, I know why you are angry...I get it. I love the Vols too and am frustrated that things did not turn our how I expected. But...let it play out.

 

[Vol_atile]

We could hire Jesus H. Christ to coach this team, and people would say...Well Jesus dont have enough SEC experience, has Jesus ever faced down Alabama....dont call me a negavol b/c Jesus was hired and Gruden was not...STOP WATCHING THE VOLS...GO WATCH BAMA, VANDY, UK, ALASKA..IDK, Jones is a great hire...

Then why was he the 6th choice?

 

[hillarious_vol]

No one even asked Jesus...WTF..and he was the 3rd

 

[bam15]

Then why was he the 6th choice?

Choices really mean jack.

Pete Carroll was USC's 4th choice.

It is in the eye of the beholder to judge how coaches will turn out.

 

[globadoc]

At some point, you have to start holding this administration accountable on the front end and not when they've blown everything up. Hiring a guy who's 14 and 9 in his crap conference and never won anything important to go head to head with Alabama and Florida is asinine.

OK. I'll play along. Who (realistically) did you want to be the coach instead? Who should we have been excited about?

 

[Unimane]

I don't know what to think of the hire yet. I don't know much about him in detail. I also didn't expect a big hire because I was fully aware of the hiring process and what was keeping coaches away. I am happy we have someone that wants to be here, and that's not phony.

Phony is pretending to know what the future holds. Phony is acting like you know more about football than Peyton, ESPN writers and Mort. Phony is criticizing a coaches future here that signed a contract this morning. Anybody can say he isn't going to make it. That's gutless. Not many coaches could come into UT with recruiting disadvantages and win a title playing the best of the best that are coached by the best.
If being a "good little soldier" means rolling with the punches and seeing what happens vs whining for another year like you and your ilk have done the last year, then call me a damn good little soldier all day.

Our "ilk" were correct about everything the last year. Every damn thing. That's not called whining, that's called opening your eyes to the beast right in front of you. You pulled your Emily Post, good manners, sanctimonious card all the time to avoid the reality we were saying and hid behind this same tripe of "wait and see". It was absurd then and it's absurd now.

 

[Unimane]

OK. I'll play along. Who (realistically) did you want to be the coach instead? Who should we have been excited about?

For starters, we got the wrong Butch. By that, I mean the one who built the greatest college football team ever. Of course, I'm sure the guy who lost to Toledo this year was better.

 

[Vol_atile]

OK. I'll play along. Who (realistically) did you want to be the coach instead? Who should we have been excited about?

Define realistic. We both know who you're talking about. Neither one of us knows what went on with Gruden. I simply feel Hart screwed it up. I felt we had a realistic chance to get him if everyone was on board. The only ones who knows if it was realistic or not was Cheek, Hart, the boosters, and Gruden. You can't bash me\us for wanting him. He gave us our perceived only hope to right this ship now as opposed to 3-4 years. I feel Tenn is worthy of the best and not someone who happened to be there available.

 

[peelwonder]

since I've already seen it in many forms today, are people going to start using the following phrases again?

"He's our coach. Support him or GTFO."

"You're not VFL if you don't support the coach."

"Negavol"

There are many various, but I think you get the point. These phrases all served the blind lemmings so well with Dooley, so I'm glad they pulled them out again for the marginal hire we just made. I swear, if we put an orange tie on a trained monkey, some of you would think all "real fans" should support him, no questions asked. I could see the collective amnesia once people started swooning over a bunch of cliches at the opening press conference.

At some point, you have to start holding this administration accountable on the front end and not when they've blown everything up. Hiring a guy who's 14 and 9 in his crap conference and never won anything important to go head to head with Alabama and Florida is asinine.

Anyway, I just want you all to remember, when it goes bad for Jones (and it will), to go back to what was being said when Dooley was crashing the program and think twice about chastising people for not staying on the sinking ship.

This is the Truth.

 

[UTFanForLife]

For starters, we got the wrong Butch. By that, I mean the one who built the greatest college football team ever. Of course, I'm sure the guy who lost to Toledo this year was better.

I assume you mean Butch Davis? The same Butch Davis who has NCAA troubles?

 

[Orange Bison]

since I've already seen it in many forms today, are people going to start using the following phrases again?

"He's our coach. Support him or GTFO."

"You're not VFL if you don't support the coach."

"Negavol"

There are many various, but I think you get the point. These phrases all served the blind lemmings so well with Dooley, so I'm glad they pulled them out again for the marginal hire we just made. I swear, if we put an orange tie on a trained monkey, some of you would think all "real fans" should support him, no questions asked. I could see the collective amnesia once people started swooning over a bunch of cliches at the opening press conference.

At some point, you have to start holding this administration accountable on the front end and not when they've blown everything up. Hiring a guy who's 14 and 9 in his crap conference and never won anything important to go head to head with Alabama and Florida is asinine.

Anyway, I just want you all to remember, when it goes bad for Jones (and it will), to go back to what was being said when Dooley was crashing the program and think twice about chastising people for not staying on the sinking ship.

Negavol. IMO.

 

[UTFanForLife]

Define realistic. We both know who you're talking about. Neither one of us knows what went on with Gruden. I simply feel Hart screwed it up. I felt we had a realistic chance to get him if everyone was on board. The only ones who knows if it was realistic or not was Cheek, Hart, the boosters, and Gruden. You can't bash me\us for wanting him. He gave us our perceived only hope to right this ship now as opposed to 3-4 years. I feel Tenn is worthy of the best and not someone who happened to be there available.

Well I heard Hart on the radio this afternoon. He said he reach out to Gruden very early in the process and he had a tentative meeting scheduled but then Gruden called him and let him know that he wasn't interested in meeting or coaching college and liked the situation he was in. Then Hart knew all the rumors that was floating around and it continued even when it was obvious that Gruden had no interest. Then that is when Gruden's agent issued the statement cause it wouldn't stop. It didn't even stop then.

This is what I choose to believe as it is coming straight from the person involved in the search. May or may not be true, but that is what I have to go on.

 

[CardsNVols]

There's actually more of a reason to give this guy a chance.

I pissed and moaned from the very beginning with Dooley, or in other words, was a negavol from the day he was hired.

Butch Jones, on the other hand, deserves a chance.