Pac-10 Report: League May Not Be Able to Fill Its Bowl Commitments

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For the all the strength at the top of the Pac-10, there's a strong chance the conference may not be able to fill out its bowl commitments.

With USC out of the bowl picture because of NCAA sanctions and Oregon squarely in the national championship conversation, it is increasingly unlikely that the Pac-10 can fill its six bowl slots.

Here's a look at the nine Pac-10 teams with postseason possibilities. Only Washington State at 1-7 is out of the picture. But by the end of the weekend, the bowl positions of a handful of teams will become more clear.

Oregon: The Ducks (7-0, 4-0) are No. 1 in the country in all the polls that aren't created by a computer and in a strong position to earn a spot in the national championship game if they can win out. If the Ducks make it to the title game, it has implications for the rest of the conference's postseason prospects.

Still on the schedule: USC (A), Washington (H), Cal (A), Arizona (H), Oregon State (A).

Stanford (6-1, 3-1): The Cardinal are bowl eligible. So that's done, and they could still go to the Rose Bowl, but only if Oregon stumbles twice down the stretch. If Oregon wins out and earns a trip to Glendale for the title game, and Boise and TCU stay strong, the Rose Bowl will be obligated to take an non-automatic qualifier. Stanford has a relatively friendly schedule the rest of the way, having already played USC and Oregon.

Still on the schedule: Washington (A), Arizona (H), Arizona State (A), Cal (A), Oregon State (H).

Arizona (6-1, 3-1): The Wildcats are in the same spot as Stanford at this point, bowl eligible after only seven games and needing to pile up wins to improve their positioning. But man, this is a tough stretch run for Arizona, particularly if starting quarterback Nick Foles -- who returned to practice Monday - isn't 100 percent down the stretch.

Still on the schedule: UCLA (A), Stanford (A), USC (H), Oregon (A), Arizona State (H).

Oregon State (3-3, 2-1): The Beavers still need three wins in their final six games to nail down a bowl spot. That makes this week's home game against Cal -- which has not been nearly as good on the road as it has at home -- a big one for Mike Riley's team. Because it's a tough stretch run for the Beavers.

Still on the schedule: Cal (H), UCLA (A), Washington State (H), USC (H), Stanford (A), Oregon (H).

USC (5-2, 2-2): No bowl game. But a big spoiler role.

Still on the schedule: Oregon (H), Arizona State (H), Arizona (A), Oregon State (A), Notre Dame (H), UCLA (A).

Cal (4-3, 2-2): Cal needs two more wins, but the Bears better figure out how to win on the road, because the remaining home schedule looks tough.

Still on the schedule: Oregon State (A), Washington State (A), Oregon (H), Stanford (H), Washington (H).

Washington (3-4, 2-2).: Needs three wins in final five games. The Huskies have alternated wins and losses all season and still have three road games on the schedule. The Huskies have won only one of their last 15 games on the road, a streak dating back to November 2007.

Still on the schedule: Stanford (H), Oregon (A), UCLA (H), Cal (A), Washington State (A).

Arizona State (3-4, 1-3): After Saturday's devastating loss at Cal, the Sun Devils are up against it in a big way. They need four wins in five games -- with games still to be played against the top three teams in the conference -- because of the early season schedule that included two Division I-AA opponents.

Still on the schedule: Washington State (H), USC (A), Stanford (H), UCLA (H), Arizona (A).

UCLA (3-4, 1-3): The Bruins need three wins in an up-and-down season that has included some blowout losses, an injured quarterback and multiple suspensions. And it's looking like a big, big chore.

Still on the schedule: Arizona (H), Oregon State (H), Washington (A), Arizona State (A), USC (H).

The Pac-10's bowl picture right now, assuming the Boise and/or TCU stay in their current positions and the bowls were to take the Pac-10 teams in order ... and yes, that's a lot of assuming:

BCS Championship Game: Oregon
Rose Bowl: No Pac-10 team.
Alamo Bowl: Stanford
Holiday Bowl: Arizona
Sun Bowl: Oregon State
Las Vegas Bowl: Cal
Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl: No Pac-10 team

Blowout Specials

Blowouts have become fashionable in the Pac-10. For a conference with so much supposed balance, lopsided games are coming with increasing frequency.

Eight games have been decided by more than three touchdowns in the conference season thus far. Three of them happened last week. As a contrast, there have been eight games decided by 10 points or less.

Arizona coach Mike Stoops is using those games as a cautionary tale, illustrating the thin line between a good day and really, really bad one.

"I think it shows you that you can't take anything for granted and you need to respect the game that day," Stoops said. "Some of it is a surprise. Because every time you think somebody is going to make a run, or play really well and they don't play so well, I think those are great examples to show kids. That you better be prepared to play every week or you are going to get clobbered."

Personnel Matters

• UCLA will be without quarterback Kevin Prince for the rest of the year, Prince having undergone knee surgery late last week. And a Bruins team that has lost consecutive conference games by a 95-20 margin will now rely on a 19-year-old quarterback in Richard Brehaut.

• UCLA will be playing an Arizona team that could be getting its quarterback back this week. Foles returned to practice Monday. But Stoops said he is "questionable." And there might not be a good reason to rush Foles back against a struggling UCLA team, not with the Nov. 6 showdown at Stanford looming.

• Washington coach Steve Sarkisian indicated that quarterback Jake Locker will be on the field Saturday against Stanford despite "general soreness" in the words of Sarkisian.

• Stanford heads up to Seattle for its game against Washington and might not be taking one of its best defensive players in safety Delano Howell, who missed the Washington State game with a wrist injury. As usual, Cardinal coach Jim Harbaugh will give up little in terms of Howell's status, except to concede that Howell "could be out for a while." On the other hand, he's "day-to-day."

• Chris Owusu also missed the game against the Cougars with an undisclosed injury and his status is also unclear

Interesting considering how much hype the Pac-10 has received this season. Better than the SEC my ass.
 
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sec teams have 4 non conference games and play joke schedules. pac-10 has 3 and play the hardest nonconference schedules of any conference. makes it a lot easier to get to 6 wins.
 
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sec teams have 4 non conference games and play joke schedules. pac-10 has 3 and play the hardest nonconference schedules of any conference. makes it a lot easier to get to 6 wins.

SEC teams, on average, tend to have the toughest SOS's at seasons end of any other conference. National champions from the SEC have concluded the seasons ranked #1.

Furthermore, SEC teams have played and beaten West Virginia, Clemson, Penn State, Louisville, South Florida, Texas A&M, North Carolina, etc, so far.

The Pac-10? TCU, Boise State, Wisconsin, and Iowa. All losses.
 
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Why would SEC teams schedule tough non conference schedules? Save that for the Big East and conferences that don't get enough tests in conference play.
 
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if the sec is so good, why can't it handle playing decent non conference teams? why be afraid? clearly you'd roll everyone right?
 
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if the sec is so good, why can't it handle playing decent non conference teams? why be afraid? clearly you'd roll everyone right?

They aren't afraid. Hence the reason they roll right into bowl season and kick ass, whereas the Pac goes 2-5 as they did in 09.
 
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you realize you also have more teams too right? so therefore more bowl eligible teams. you only have to win 2 games in the sec to be bowl eligible. being bowl eligible means jack squat.
 
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They aren't afraid. Hence the reason they roll right into bowl season and kick ass, whereas the Pac goes 2-5 as they did in 09.

the pac-10 has a better bowl record since 2000 than the sec and has a winning record against the sec. of course you guys have helped that considerably.
 
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the pac-10 has a better bowl record since 2000 than the sec and has a winning record against the sec. of course you guys have helped that considerably.

Yea, use a cutoff date. The SEC has a better overall record than every other conference. They're 6-0 in BCS title games.

That "winning record against the SEC" is nonsense, unless the #1's are playing the #1's, the #2's are playing the #2's, and so on. USC beating up on a few of the SEC's lesser ranked teams is meaningless.
 
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you realize you also have more teams too right? so therefore more bowl eligible teams. you only have to win 2 games in the sec to be bowl eligible. being bowl eligible means jack squat.

Yes, which gives the SEC more opportunities to lose, which they don't seem to do a lot of.
 
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i see so the only way to judge a conference is by looking at their top 2 teams? by that theory utah is in one of the best conferences in america.
 
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if the sec is so good, why can't it handle playing decent non conference teams? why be afraid? clearly you'd roll everyone right?
If Florida is hoping to win a national title, they probably have to get by 2 or 3 SEC teams that actually have comparable talent. From about 2003-2008, USC never really had any in conference challengers with comparable talent. Now why should Florida have to schedule big time out of conference games to prove something? And as far as which conference has tougher road to bowl eligibility, it's not like Cal and UCLA would for sure make a bowl game in the SEC if they played easy non-conference schedules.
 
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If Florida is hoping to win a national title, they probably have to get by 2 or 3 SEC teams that actually have comparable talent. From about 2003-2008, USC never really had any in conference challengers with comparable talent. Now why should Florida have to schedule big time out of conference games to prove something? No one cares about strenuous tests for bowl edibility. It's not like Cal would for sure make a bowl game in the SEC.

Florida's OOC schedule is pathetic for the most part, but seriously, how many programs are pitted against programs the caliber of LSU, Alabama, Florida State, etc, on an anual basis?
 
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and the sec's bowl record is inferior to the pac-10s the past 10 years. next.
What are your tie ins for bowl games? That definitely matters. Seems like the Pac 10 plays a few Big 10 teams on their coast and a few MWC teams or something. Not surprising they have a good record with that.
 
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If Florida is hoping to win a national title, they probably have to get by 2 or 3 SEC teams that actually have comparable talent. From about 2003-2008, USC never really had any in conference challengers with comparable talent. Now why should Florida have to schedule big time out of conference games to prove something? And as far as which conference has tougher road to bowl eligibility, it's not like Cal and UCLA would for sure make a bowl game in the SEC if they played easy non-conference schedules.

what 2 or 3 teams had comparable to talent to bama or florida this year or the prior years? this i have to hear. 8-4 lsu teams?

cal and ucla surely can win 2 sec games if they get to play msu, vandy, ole miss, or kentucky every year.

sec is better, but it isnt' the gap you boys think it is.
 
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what 2 or 3 teams had comparable to talent to bama or florida this year or the prior years? this i have to hear. 8-4 lsu teams?

cal and ucla surely can win 2 sec games if they get to play msu, vandy, ole miss, or kentucky every year.

sec is better, but it isnt' the gap you boys think it is.

It's pretty damn big.

SEC BCS title record: 6-0 composed by 4 different teams.

Pac-10 BCS title record: 1-1 composed by 1 team
 
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It's pretty damn big.

SEC BCS title record: 6-0 composed by 4 different teams.

Pac-10 BCS title record: 1-1 composed by 1 team

but except last season you've never had two great teams in one year. so how is that any different than one team dominating? the bottom of your league is still a joke.
 
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what 2 or 3 teams had comparable to talent to bama or florida this year or the prior years? this i have to hear. 8-4 lsu teams?
They've always been extremely talented. They may not be coached extremely well, and Miles may do a poor job motivating them at times, but they are always extremely dangerous.

cal and ucla surely can win 2 sec games if they get to play msu, vandy, ole miss, or kentucky every year.
Give Cal or UCLA Tennessee's schedule this year and I doubt they make a bowl game. Put them in Ole Miss's place this year and I doubt either get in.

sec is better, but it isnt' the gap you boys think it is.
This year, it looks like everyone sucks. Most of the last decade, the SEC has been far better at the top and not really much weaker throughout.
 

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