Pac-10 Report: League May Not Be Able to Fill Its Bowl Commitments

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droski said:
but except last season you've never had two great teams in one year. so how is that any different than one team dominating? the bottom of your league is still a joke.
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And the Pac 10 is loaded at the bottom? Washington State seems like a constant threat to go winless now, and Washington pulled the feat off a few years ago.
 
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tvolsfan said:
And the Pac 10 is loaded at the bottom? Washington State seems like a constant threat to go winless now, and Washington pulled the feat off a few years ago.
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vandy, kentucky, and miss state have sucked for the entirety of the sec. point?
 
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Bumi, the SEC is the best conference but the SEC has been regularly ripped for being terrible with little exception. One is Florida, who would replace Florida State with a Sun Belt team if not for state government interference.

Other than that, Tennessee and Vanderbilt are the only two teams in the conference that have played a BCS conference team with a record better than 4-3 (the ones that are 4-3 are a lot of Big East/ACC garbage).

Oregon, Stanford and USC are the only teams in the Pac-10 that have OOC schedules without currently ranked teams.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Give Cal or UCLA Tennessee's schedule this year and I doubt they make a bowl game. Put them in Ole Miss's place this year and I doubt either get in.


This year, it looks like everyone sucks. Most of the last decade, the SEC has been far better at the top and not really much weaker throughout.
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ucla is debatable. cal would definetely make a bowl game (not that i'm saying cal is great by any stretch).

disagree. the sec hasn't had a bunch of top teams until the past 5 years. the 5 years prior to that were not a good stretch.
 
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droski said:
but except last season you've never had two great teams in one year. so how is that any different than one team dominating? the bottom of your league is still a joke.
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06 - Florida and Auburn

07 - LSU and Georgia

08 - Bama and Florida

09 - Bama and Florida

10 - Auburn, Alabama, LSU

MSU, Kentucky, and Vandy are the bottom dwellers of the SEC. MSU is 6-2, and Kentucky and Vandy have had a small bit of success over the last few seasons.

Washington, Washington State, Arizona State, and UCLA are the bottom of the Pac-10. :ermm:
 
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droski said:
if the sec is so good, why can't it handle playing decent non conference teams? why be afraid? clearly you'd roll everyone right?
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After a sec team goes through their conference schedule, most of them have already played 3-4 top 25 teams. There is no need to play other tough out of conf. Games. The pac-10 however, after going through their conference, they have played 1 maybe two top 25 teams, and they have to schedule tougher OOC games in order to be relevent. TN is at the end of a stretch that no team in any conference would have a chance at being healthy, or undefeated. florida, Uab, LSU, Georgia, Bama, South carolina. I gues they should have played oklahoma instead of UAB to be releventt in your eyes.
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Bumi said:
MSU, Kentucky, and Vandy are the bottom dwellers of the SEC. MSU is 6-2, and Kentucky and Vandy have had a small bit of success over the last few seasons.

Washington, Washington State, Arizona State, and UCLA are the bottom of the Pac-10. :ermm:
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washington has won national titles and won 10 games in 2001, WSU won the pac-10 in 2002, asu tied for a confernece championship in 2007, ucla won 9 games 3 years ago. let's not act as though the bottom of the sec is even comparable to that.
 
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droski said:
you realize you also have more teams too right? so therefore more bowl eligible teams. you only have to win 2 games in the sec to be bowl eligible. being bowl eligible means jack squat.
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You're assuming that everybody plays 4 patsies . . . which is not what happens.
 
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lego126 said:
After a sec team goes through their conference schedule, most of them have already played 3-4 top 25 teams. There is no need to play other tough out of conf. Games. The pac-10 however, after going through their conference, they have played 1 maybe two top 25 teams, and they have to schedule tougher OOC games in order to be relevent. TN is at the end of a stretch that no team in any conference would have a chance at being healthy, or undefeated. florida, Uab, LSU, Georgia, Bama, South carolina. I gues they should have played oklahoma instead of UAB to be releventt in your eyes.
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how do you know if they are top-25 teams if they never play anyone decent outside of the conference?
 
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milohimself said:
Bumi, the SEC is the best conference but the SEC has been regularly ripped for being terrible with little exception. One is Florida, who would replace Florida State with a Sun Belt team if not for state government interference.

Other than that, Tennessee and Vanderbilt are the only two teams in the conference that have played a BCS conference team with a record better than 4-3 (the ones that are 4-3 are a lot of Big East/ACC garbage).

Oregon, Stanford and USC are the only teams in the Pac-10 that have OOC schedules without currently ranked teams.
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Coincidence that they're 3 of the top 4 teams in the Pac-10? Combined, those teams have played a whopping 4 teams above .500.
 
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droski said:
washington has won national titles and won 10 games in 2001, WSU won the pac-10 in 2002, asu tied for a confernece championship in 2007, ucla won 9 games 3 years ago. let's not act as though the bottom of the sec is even comparable to that.
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Washington wan a title 20+ years ago. That has no bearing on the current landscape of college football. They went winless a few seasons back.

WSU winning the Pac-10 in 2002 has no bearing on the current landscape of collegiate football. They may very well be the worst team in FBS football.

ASU has beaten 2 FBS teams over the last two seasons. Washington and Washington State.

The above three programs are a joke. :yes:
 
#42
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washington and asu are clearly superior programs to vandy, msu, and kentucky. to argue otherwise is riduclous.
 
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droski said:
you can't be serious. have you looked at the non confernece schedules of said teams?
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Off the top of my head: Alabama's got Penn St on their schedule; UGA plays Ga Tech every year and has recently played ASU and Oklahoma State; SC and Auburn both play Clemson this year, Florida plays FSU every year etc.
 
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#46
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droski said:
washington has won national titles and won 10 games in 2001
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That team was good, and they probably deserved a shot at the national title.
WSU won the pac-10 in 2002
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And got curbstomped by Oklahoma and Ohio State that season. That probably says more about your champion than anything else.
asu tied for a confernece championship in 2007
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If we had co-championships, Ole Miss and Arkansas would also have won titles this decade.
ucla won 9 games 3 years ago.
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I don't think that's true.
 
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droski said:
how do you know if they are top-25 teams if they never play anyone decent outside of the conference?
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well FL. Was ranked in the top 10 when we played them, as was LSU, and Bama.
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GAVol said:
Off the top of my head: Alabama's got Penn St on their schedule; UGA plays Ga Tech every year and has recently played ASU and Oklahoma State; SC and Auburn both play Clemson this year, etc.
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LSU has played VT and WVU. Bama played VT and Clemson over the last couple of seasons. Also, I believe Vanderbilt has played Michigan and Kentucky has been playing Louisville often, which was more impressive a few years ago. I'm sure we're missing some as well.
 
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GAVol said:
Off the top of my head: Alabama's got Penn St on their schedule; UGA plays Ga Tech every year and has recently played ASU and Oklahoma State; SC and Auburn both play Clemson this year, etc.
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these are hard games? and then look at the rest of the schedule. one game to get up for and 3 joke opponents. and people talk crap about boise.
 
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