Palin: Smart enough to get into UT?

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CaedmonVol

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To get into UT, you need good grades and SAT scores, which generally indicates that you know stuff (e.g. facts, basic grasp of science and logical reasoning). Could Palin make that cut? Let's be generous and use today's Palin (rather than the 18-year-old Sarah). Thoughts?
 
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CaedmonVol said:
To get into UT, you need good grades and SAT scores, which generally indicates that you know stuff (e.g. facts, basic grasp of science and logical reasoning). Could Palin make that cut? Let's be generous and use today's Palin (rather than the 18-year-old Sarah). Thoughts?
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My thoughts? You are lacking any and all intelligence.
 
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Where did Bush go to school? The guy must be in the 99.9999999th percentile of intelligence.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
To get into UT, you need good grades and SAT scores, which generally indicates that you know stuff (e.g. facts, basic grasp of science and logical reasoning). Could Palin make that cut? Let's be generous and use today's Palin (rather than the 18-year-old Sarah). Thoughts?
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Sarah could run intellectual circles around you, whether it's the 18 year old or the VP candidate.

If the basis for your question is a "report" that Palin's SAT scores were very low, here is your very own dailyKOS admitting that the image of what is supposed to be her SAT score sheet is a fake.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation
 
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MG1968 said:
Sarah could run intellectual circles around you, whether it's the 18 year old or the VP candidate.

If the basis for your question is a "report" that Palin's SAT scores were very low, here is your very own dailyKOS admitting that the image of what is supposed to be her SAT score sheet is a fake.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation
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Interesting . . . actually I don't read the Daily Kos, because I think it's not really fact-based and highly propagandistic. Even though I lean to the left I very much admire principled, intelligent conservatives who have a good head (e.g. Bush I).

So the idea that I'm basing this on Daily Kos is incorrect. I just think Palin is really really not smart.
 
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I do love watching Democrats try to place their candidates on an intellectual pedestal. If you want to say that, post Reagan, the Democratic Presidential Candidates have been better orators than the Republican Presidential Candidates, then go right ahead. However, the ability to speak with a silver tongue has very little correlation to the ability to use reason and logic correctly.
 
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therealUT said:
I do love watching Democrats try to place their candidates on an intellectual pedestal. If you want to say that, post Reagan, the Democratic Presidential Candidates have been better orators than the Republican Presidential Candidates, then go right ahead. However, the ability to speak with a silver tongue has very little correlation to the ability to use reason and logic correctly.
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There are so many smart conservatives -- Bush I, James Baker, Mitt Romney, Trent Lott, Bob Dole, and countless others. They have spent lots of time and effort learning things (facts) and trying to come up with ideas to improve the country. When you want to run something big and complex like the United States, I think being smart and studying the facts is important. When Palin talks, she simply does not demonstrate even a passing command of the facts. By the way, I'm not talking about the Gibson and Couric interviews -- I'm talking about every time she opens up her mouth, you hear a stream of vague platitudes.

If you agree with her policy positions, fine. I'm sure lots of people do. But she is not smart enough to be a heartbeat away. Nor is she smart enough to gain admittance to UT.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
Interesting . . . actually I don't read the Daily Kos, because I think it's not really fact-based and highly propagandistic. Even though I lean to the left I very much admire principled, intelligent conservatives who have a good head (e.g. Bush I).

So the idea that I'm basing this on Daily Kos is incorrect. I just think Palin is really really not smart.
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Smart enough to be a state governor and on the ticket for VP of the greatest nation on earth. BTW, what have you accomplished in your life so far?
 
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CaedmonVol said:
There are so many smart conservatives -- Bush I, James Baker, Mitt Romney, Trent Lott, Bob Dole, and countless others. They have spent lots of time and effort learning things (facts) and trying to come up with ideas to improve the country.
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Let's draw some similarities between these names. Other than Romney, they all spent considerable time in D.C. Their jobs were focused on National Policy and Federal Legislation. Romney has been preparing to run for POTUS for about six years now.

Palin has been working as the Chief Executive of the State of Alaska. I am glad that she has yet to learn all the systems and BS of D.C., yet. It means that she was focused on governing Alaska, not using that position simply as a stepping stone.

She learned pretty quickly how to govern Alaska, and did so very well. She will learn, very quickly, how to accomplish her duties as VP and, in the event of a national tragedy, as POTUS.

Her philosophy does not need to change though. Her philosophy is incredibly libertarian and, very much, Constitutional.

I am glad you base you vote for people based on what they can learn and regurgitate. I try to base mine on what I feel the candidate actually believes and holds dear.
 
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rockydoc said:
Smart enough to be a state governor and on the ticket for VP of the greatest nation on earth. BTW, what have you accomplished in your life so far?
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If I can make any of you realize that Sarah is not intelligent enough to run the greatest country on earth, I will have accomplished a lot.

Look, I'm not saying she's not an extraordinary woman. I'm just saying she's doesn't have the intellect or the skill to be president (which is what she will be if McCain dies).
 
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therealUT said:
Let's draw some similarities between these names. Other than Romney, they all spent considerable time in D.C. Their jobs were focused on National Policy and Federal Legislation. Romney has been preparing to run for POTUS for about six years now.

Palin has been working as the Chief Executive of the State of Alaska. I am glad that she has yet to learn all the systems and BS of D.C., yet. It means that she was focused on governing Alaska, not using that position simply as a stepping stone.

She learned pretty quickly how to govern Alaska, and did so very well. She will learn, very quickly, how to accomplish her duties as VP and, in the event of a national tragedy, as POTUS.

Her philosophy does not need to change though. Her philosophy is incredibly libertarian and, very much, Constitutional.

I am glad you base you vote for people based on what they can learn and regurgitate. I try to base mine on what I feel the candidate actually believes and holds dear.
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You make some good points. Fine if you like her libertarian outsider nature. But honestly, "learning and regurgitating" is something you do on a college final. When you run the U.S.A., you have to do more than regurgitate facts -- you need to use them to make decisions. Her lack of knowledge about foreign affairs is breathtakingly sparse. To run Alaska, you don't need to know things like how our enemies think. Saying things like "terror" just doesn't cut it.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
If I can make any of you realize that Sarah is not intelligent enough to run the greatest country on earth, I will have accomplished a lot.

Look, I'm not saying she's not an extraordinary woman. I'm just saying she's doesn't have the intellect or the skill to be president (which is what she will be if McCain dies).
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You do understand that Americans are living into their 80s, with greater and greater frequency these days, right?

However, African-American Presidents probably aren't going to last that long. In my opinion, Biden has a better chance of stepping in to the POTUS role if BHO is elected, than Palin does if McCain is elected.

MG1968 said:
what do you base that statement on?

here are UT's admission requirements: Applying to UT: Admission Requirements

Palin could easily get into UT
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Caedmon apparently believes that UT is a Tier 1 school.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
Well one thing's for certain -- she definitely has a "super score."
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you've yet to provide any proof that she can't get into UT. You claim you don't read dailyKOS, fine. The SAT score attributed to her is still a fake.

Based on the tortured reasoning you've exhibited thus far, I'm of the opinion that you're not smart enough to gain admission to PSTCC.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
Her lack of knowledge about foreign affairs is breathtakingly sparse. To run Alaska, you don't need to know things like how our enemies think.
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As is BHO's. To run the U.S., you do not exactly need to know things like "how our enemies think", though. You need to know things like, "who can I trust to be the my Secretary of State", "who can I trust to be the CJCs", etc.

As CinC, you do not need to know how to play the tuba. You need to know how to direct the band. Executive experience provides one with the ability to direct the band. Being a Senator...not so much.
 
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therealUT said:
As is BHO's. To run the U.S., you do not exactly need to know things like "how our enemies think", though. You need to know things like, "who can I trust to be the my Secretary of State", "who can I trust to be the CJCs", etc.

As CinC, you do not need to know how to play the tuba. You need to know how to direct the band. Executive experience provides one with the ability to direct the band. Being a Senator...not so much.
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"How our enemies think" is a metaphor for just how people of other perspectives think. The key to foreign policy in the 21st century is understanding how our friends, enemies, and everyone in between, thinks. You can't work with or against anyone if you don't know what motivates them.

Sarah, who has left the country once in her life, runs one of the most atypical American states, which is also the most sparsely and homogeneously populated of any U.S. state. Her breadth of experience is very superficial FOR WORLD AFFAIRS. But even people who don't get out much can learn tons about the world through reading. It's clear that she doesn't even do that a whole lot.

Obama, who admittedly is inexperienced, is bi-racial, spent part of his childhood in an Asian country, went to elite schools with privileged people, yet worked on the South Side, one of the poorest communities in the country, has a breadth of experience that demonstrates that he can empathize with people who are not like him (i.e., everyone). This is critical when relating to both friends and enemies. That is the difference.
 
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Obama has spent a lot of time learning how the rest of the world thinks. The rest of the world likes it when you speak in favor of a violent socialist.
 
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you still haven't proven that Palin would not be able to gain admission to UT.
 
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MG1968 said:
you've yet to provide any proof that she can't get into UT. You claim you don't read dailyKOS, fine. The SAT score attributed to her is still a fake.

Based on the tortured reasoning you've exhibited thus far, I'm of the opinion that you're not smart enough to gain admission to PSTCC.
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"Tortured reasoning." I like that.

OK, you're right. I admit, I started this thread to get a rise of people. I have no idea whether Sarah could get into UT. She probably could. She's probably of average intelligence. But that doesn't mean she's smart enough to be president.
 
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CaedmonVol said:
OK, you're right. I admit, I started this thread to get a rise of people. I have no idea whether Sarah could get into UT. She probably could. She's probably of average intelligence. But that doesn't mean she's smart enough to be president.
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and it only took 22 posts to get something resembling truth out of you. Your elegant defense of Obama's credentials is bogus. He had no control over his genealogy, nor where he attended school as a youth. He purposefully went to Chicago to be molded by its corrupt political machine.

Obama can no more relate to someone like me than I can relate to a socialist with no understanding of the Laffer curve or a man who counts among his friends a domestic terrorist.
 
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