Pat Summitt

[OWB]

The University of Tennessee has proposed a contract for women's basketball coach Pat Summitt that is comparable in salary to the new contract for men's coach Bruce Pearl. The new deal will make her the first women's coach to top $1 million.

I for one think that she deserves every penny.

 

[WA_Vol]

I for one think that she deserves every penny.

I don't. I like her as a coach, everyone does, she's the best. But there is no way the women's basketball team brings in the revenue the men's team does. That's just the reality.

This mentality is how we ended up with one of the most overpaid fb coaches in the country.

 

[vols kick balls]

The lady vols bring in just as much money as the mens teams in recent years. i dont know about this year tho cause the men got a huge bump in attendance.

 

[OWB]

I don't. I like her as a coach, everyone does, she's the best. But there is no way the women's basketball team brings in the revenue the men's team does. That's just the reality.

This mentality is how we ended up with one of the most overpaid fb coaches in the country.

Predictable, I knew someone would say something like that before I even started the post but you're entitled to your opinion.

Sometimes it's about more than money. When you look at the titles and exposure she has given the school, when you look at the class act and coaching legend that she is, when you look at how hard she's worked for this University and how faithful she has been throughout the process.....I think it's worth a lowly $1 million dollars.

Pat Summitt is Tennessee, so I'll guess you'll have to work through that.

It doesn't matter if the men's program makes more than the womens.

 

[volmanjr]

I'd say the men's B-ball team has some catching up to do from the buzz, green yrs, besides it's a respect thing Pat Summit is women's basketball and a class act to boot she deserves every penny.

 

[Freak]

The lady vols bring in just as much money as the mens teams in recent years.

I'm pretty sure that's not true.

 

[WA_Vol]

Predictable, I knew someone would say something like that before I even started the post but you're entitled to your opinion.

Sometimes it's about more than money. When you look at the titles and exposure she has given the school, when you look at the class act and coaching legend that she is, when you look at how hard she's worked for this University and how faithful she has been throughout the process.....I think it's worth a lowly $1 million dollars.

Pat Summitt is Tennessee, so I'll guess you'll have to work through that.

It doesn't matter if the men's program makes more than the womens.

Yes, it only a matter of time before someone brought up economics, economies of scale, etc.

She should be the highest paid womens coach yes, no doubt. But most college coaches are overpaid to begin with.

I think Richt was only making 1.1 - 1.3 a year up until a few years ago and I think Tubberville was making around 1.1.

Now you want to start paying women's coaches 1 million a year? Now do we have to start paying FB coaches 3-4 million a year? And pay $200 a ticket to sit in the upper deck? Coaching salaries are getting out of hand.

 

[vols kick balls]

I'm pretty sure that's not true.

yeah i made that up i was waiting on someone to catch that

 

[Freak]

I think Pat is an invaluable asset to the University. You can't put a price on what she has done. However, I think it's TERRIBLE timing because it looks like, and may be, that they are giving her a raise because Bruce got one and I don't agree with that.

What do the other top five women's coaches make? Anyone know?

 

[OWB]

Now you want to start paying women's coaches 1 million a year?

No, just Pat Summitt. k:

 

[OWB]

I think Pat is an invaluable asset to the University. You can't put a price on what she has done. However, I think it's TERRIBLE timing because it looks like, and may be, that they are giving her a raise because Bruce got one and I don't agree with that.

I think that's exactly why she got the raise but I think it was long overdue. I know I know, it's just pitiful women's basketball and nobody really cares, but when you look at the NC's and SECC's that Summitt has won for us and Pearl just gets us into the tourney and gets the big raise....I'm not sure which would look worse, giving her the raise with Pearl or not giving her one at all. :dunno:

But yeah, the timing is poor.

 

[Freak]

I think that's exactly why she got the raise but I think it was long overdue. I know I know, it's just pitiful women's basketball and nobody really cares, but when you look at the NC's and SECC's that Summitt has won for us and Pearl just gets us into the tourney and gets the big raise....I'm not sure which would look worse, giving her the raise with Pearl or not giving her one at all. :dunno:

But yeah, the timing is poor.

Pitiful women's baskeball and nobody really cares? That's obviously not true. I just don't like the constant competition and comparisons between the two that some fans insist on making. Each should be evaulated on their indidual merit and also the market value.

I really haven't followed this issue that closely. How much of a raise is it? Also, you said it was long overdue. How long has it been since her last raise?

 

[OWB]

I really haven't followed this issue that closely. How much of a raise is it? Also, you said it was long overdue. How long has it been since her last raise?

Nice, you got me there. Ok, maybe long overdue isn't the right wording. I will say that Geno will be making 1.25 million and Pat's should close if not more than that. If for nothing else, just to not be edged out by Uconn.

Summitt, who is in her 32nd season at UT, signed a five-year extension in November 2003 that increased her overall package to $824,500. The extension amounted to an overall raise of $74,500.

 

[OWB]

The source confirmed that negotiations on Summitt's contract began last fall and indicated that Cronan's initial guidelines were influenced by Auriemma's deal.

Sounds like a cover up, but no matter....

Whe it's all said and done, we're looking at a raise of a little under $200,000 which really isn't that big of a deal in the first place.

Geno is making about $900,000 right now in his second year of a five-year deal that tops out at $1.125 million in the final year.

 

[rockydoc]

I agree with Freak on this one. The pay raise for Pearl was a screwd pre-emptive move to keep him at UT after his hughly sucessful initial season. The raise for Summitt smells of a Title 9/Gender equality deal.

However, I'm happy for Pat and I think she is a great ambassador for UT.

 

[OWB]

I agree with Freak on this one. The pay raise for Pearl was a screwd pre-emptive move to keep him at UT after his hughly sucessful initial season. The raise for Summitt smells of a Title 9/Gender equality deal.

It may very well be, but did you see this quote that I posted?

The source confirmed that negotiations on Summitt's contract began last fall and indicated that Cronan's initial guidelines were influenced by Auriemma's deal.

Like I said, might be a cover up, but who knows for sure. It doesn't really matter. She deserves the extra $175,000. I thought the Lady Vols were in big trouble in the middle of the season, but they turned around and won the SEC Tourney Championship. She's a great coach and a positive ambassador for our University. Coach Pearl LOVES being at the same school with her and I think that speaks volumes as well.

 

[Freak]

Based on Geno's deal (NOT Pearl's) I think it sounds pretty fair to me. I think it's a tad high, but nothing overly outrageous.

 

[TennFan]

The top NCAA women's coaches are at the following schools and not necessarily in order: UConn, Tennessee, Texas (even though they have fallen this season), LSU, NC, Duke.
Prior to this year what was the comparison in attendance of the men's vs. women's basketball? Pat Summitt is UT basketball. I know Pat has been at UT for over 25 years. The Vols (men's team) had good attendance while Ray Mears was coach and during the Ernie/Bernie show if that was after Mears reign.
UT's biggest sports are football and Lady Vols basketball. Both are top caliber teams. Only recently have the men's basketball team gotten better. I also know the baseball team and track teams have done well too!

 

[MemphisVol]

Here's another screwed up fact for the mix:

Despite how much lower (vastly lower) men's basketball attendance has been for many years, the ticket prices for men's hoops have always been and still remains much higher.

IOW, the redneck mentality is so deeply entrenched in Vol-Land, that even though the women were regularly selling out the venue or close to it, and even though the men were regularly barely generating enough attendance to cover the costs of turning on the lights, it was decided (against all logic and economic reason) that the men's prices should remain higher than the women's.

Additional fact: Until this year, women's hoops have been bringing in more money than men's hoops for about a decade. It hasn't been close. The Lady Vols have been blue chips. The Vols have, fairly often, been cow chips, and it's been reflected in attendance, etc.

PPS- We now know that UT are cheapskates when it comes to everybody below Head Coach in football. As part of this thread, I've got to wonder how our hoops and other sports salaries compare- especially considering Summitt is roundly, nationally, considered one of the greatest figures in collegiate sports history by the sports professional (if not necessarily the professional dick-bearing lower primates)...?

 

[LadyinOrange]

I think it's worth a lowly $1 million dollars.

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When did 1 million dollars become"lowly"? I for one am sickened at the exorbitant amount of money coaches and pro athletes get paid. I love Pearl and Summitt both, but neither one of them deserve to make THAT much money.

 

[USAF_Vol]

She deserves it.

Well worth it.

 

[GAVol]

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When did 1 million dollars become"lowly"? I for one am sickened at the exorbitant amount of money coaches and pro athletes get paid. I love Pearl and Summitt both, but neither one of them deserve to make THAT much money.

:shakehead: Don't get me started . . .

 

[OWB]

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When did 1 million dollars become"lowly"? I for one am sickened at the exorbitant amount of money coaches and pro athletes get paid. I love Pearl and Summitt both, but neither one of them deserve to make THAT much money.

When you consider how much money all the combined sports bring in, A $175,000 raise isn't really that much and $1 million isn't that big of a chunk our the whole income.

 

[MemphisVol]

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When did 1 million dollars become"lowly"? I for one am sickened at the exorbitant amount of money coaches and pro athletes get paid. I love Pearl and Summitt both, but neither one of them deserve to make THAT much money.

Thank goodness- LIO's got a healthy streak of pinko too

 

[kptvol]

Additional fact: Until this year, women's hoops have been bringing in more money than men's hoops for about a decade. It hasn't been close. The Lady Vols have been blue chips. The Vols have, fairly often, been cow chips, and it's been reflected in attendance, etc.

I'm like 99% sure this is untrue. I heard on sports talk that women's basketball typically brings in around $800,000, while men's bball gets over $4 million. And I'm pretty sure that info was during the Buzz era. I realize my recollection of the radio is not the most reliable, but at least it's something. If you can show some sources to support your own claims, I'll give you some credit. Don't just throw out these random "facts". We need specific numbers and credible sources to support them. Otherwise, I'm sticking with men's bball as the greater revenue generator.