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#51
#51
SGMVols said:
He's never coming back. Get over it.

The only way Martin will be fired in 2 years is if he gets UT in further NCAA trouble. Unfortunately for the Pearlophiles, Martin actually appears to have integrity, the quality their hero lacked that now leaves him unemployed.
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That didn't save Coach Dooley from you writing him off before he ever coached a game. You are pathetic.
 
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#52
NewToVolCountry said:
That didn't save Coach Dooley from you writing him off before he ever coached a game. You are pathetic.
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Dooley was hired off of going 4-8 in the second worst D-1 conference. Martin inherited a craptastic roster at Missouri State and in 3 years had them at the top of the MVC. Kind of a difference there.
 
#54
#54
SGMVols said:
Dooley was hired off of going 4-8 in the second worst D-1 conference. Martin inherited a craptastic roster at Missouri State and in 3 years had them at the top of the MVC. Kind of a difference there.
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No, there is not.

Coach Dooley inherited an awful roster. He made improvements, but had a setback, mostly due to injury, in his last year.

Coach Martin did wonderful things at Missouri State. The recruiting is a lot different, however. Five players on the court in bball. It is easier to make a team better, quicker. You have to recruit 11 players for each side of the ball in football. It takes longer to get talent and depth.

Coach Dooley comes here and saves a recruiting class and adds some nice pieces. Martin comes here and does not impress me with his recruiting prowess. Coach Dooley had an impressive class last year. I'm willing and even eager to let Coach Martin prove himself, something you never gave Coach Dooley the opportunity to do.
 
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NewToVolCountry said:
Coach Dooley inherited an awful roster. He made improvements, but had a setback, mostly due to injury, in his last year.
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I keep hearing this excuse from the overall wearers, but most of those injured players were back playing for Louisiana Tech this past year, and they still posted a losing record. How would you explain that?
 
#59
#59
NewToVolCountry said:
You are wrong. You people are close-minded enough to rate a hire just based on records.
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Well if you heavily weigh recruiting practices, like your other post implies, I would consider Martin's 2011 class to be decent considering he only recruited for UT for less than two months. And if you want to play the "it wasn't entirely Dooley's fault" card, we could blame Chris Jones for not academically qualifying.

I'm hearing what you're saying, but I just don't see how, at this point, you can justify what you're saying. In the same sense that it's a bit unfair to make harsh judgements and criticisms towards Dooley's first recruiting class, do the same for Martin. Let's judge his recruiting after we find out who we land for 2012. BUT, I would argue any day that he did a pretty good job in the short time he's been here.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Well if you heavily weigh recruiting practices, like your other post implies, I would consider Martin's 2011 class to be decent considering he only recruited for UT for less than two months. And if you want to play the "it wasn't entirely Dooley's fault" card, we could blame Chris Jones for not academically qualifying.

I'm hearing what you're saying, but I just don't see how, at this point, you can justify what you're saying. In the same sense that it's a bit unfair to make harsh judgements and criticisms towards Dooley's first recruiting class, do the same for Martin. Let's judge his recruiting after we find out who we land for 2012. BUT, I would argue any day that he did a pretty good job in the short time he's been here.
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I was happy with Coach Dooley's first recruiting class. Thought he did a fine job finishing, in fact. You also don't see me *****ing about Coach Martin. I am all for him proving himself on the court before I make up my mind on the hire.

Coach Dooley didn't have long to recruit, either. It is just stupid that SGM immediately criticized that hire, while preaching patience with this one.
 
#62
#62
SGMVols said:
You are what your record says you are. -Bill Parcells
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What was Pearl's record? Which is it, record or integrity - you play both sides and use hatvolisms. Pick a side and quit trying to pick e-fights.
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#63
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I still think it's pretty obvious the Dooley hire was ill-advised. I just don't see how you can look past that. To be fair, Martin certainly wasn't my first choice, and I also wish we could have gotten someone from a high-major program. However, you can't act like the coaches' records are irrelevant. What better indicator for their level of talent is there?
 
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#64
I personally think B/P was the best coach since Ray Mears. That is if you are willing to look at his won / loss record. Should he have been fired??? don't know but I do know he made Tenn. B/B revelant for the first time since Earnie and Bernie. jmho
 
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SGMVols said:
You are what your record says you are. -Bill Parcells
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Bill Parcells needs to mind his own damn business.

You can win all the games you want, but if you don't have structure, direction, and a plan of action as to how you win those games WITHOUT bending or breaking the rules, none of those wins mean anything. It's not so much how many victories and championships you garner, it's HOW you garner them that counts as well, and it separates good coaches from great coaches.
 
#67
#67
Ravenheart said:
Bill Parcells needs to mind his own damn business.

You can win all the games you want, but if you don't have structure, direction, and a plan of action as to how you win those games WITHOUT bending or breaking the rules, none of those wins mean anything. It's not so much how many victories and championships you garner, it's HOW you garner them that counts as well, and it separates good coaches from great coaches.
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This is absolutely senseless. Winning without cheating is the key. All the rest of your point makes no sense whatsoever.
 
#68
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BigPapaVol said:
This is absolutely senseless. Winning without cheating is the key. All the rest of your point makes no sense whatsoever.
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That was my point. One needs to win games without cheating, but when you look back after your career ends, you want to look at your accomplishments and not have any reservations (ie cheating).
 
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#69
I dont think pearls record is any better or worse based on cheating.
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#71
#71
jp1 said:
I dont think pearls record is any better or worse based on cheating.
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I don't think we really know, but I do know UT is worse off for him having cheated. If it was all for nothing, then he, and by association the fanbase, is idiotic.
 
#72
#72
LawVol13 said:
Golden State runs Don Nelson's offense. To compare his basketball knowledge to Bruce Pearl's is beyond asinine.
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Certainly Don Nelson has forgotten more than Pearl will probably ever know. To compare your basketball knowledge with Pearl's is even worse
 
#73
#73
SGMVols said:
I keep hearing this excuse from the overall wearers, but most of those injured players were back playing for Louisiana Tech this past year, and they still posted a losing record. How would you explain that?
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So the people supporting Dooley are overall wearers?

Beyond stupid
 
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Los-Osis said:
I personally think B/P was the best coach since Ray Mears. That is if you are willing to look at his won / loss record. Should he have been fired??? don't know but I do know he made Tenn. B/B revelant for the first time since Earnie and Bernie. jmho
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YOu must have slept through the early DeVoe years and Jerry Green's four year NCAA run
 
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