Penn State scandal (merged)

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DL916 said:
If they did win it wouldn't bother me. I think the people who were involved should be punished for their crime. The football program as a whole had nothing to do with sandusky's behavior.

It's the equivalent of if your VP molested a child and your President found out about it but didn't say anything about it. Should they punish all the workers or just the people responsible?
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Did you feel the same way when USC and Ohio State got penalties? Bush wasn't part of the team and had been gone for several years. Pryor went pro the next year, over a tattoo. But neither were part of the team. Where were the people screaming about the punishment then besides those schools?
 
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From this morning's news, fines will be paid out of the Football program reserve fund and capital projects account. PSU Pres says no tuition increase, no tax payer money. However, as the article points out, we'll have to take their word for it as they don't have to respond to any right to know requests (which is one of the reasons why this was able to be covered up in the first place).

Penn State's payment of NCAA fine raises question about expanding state Right to Know law | PennLive.com

The state’s Right to Know Law does not require any further transparency from Penn State beyond providing its Internal Revenue Service 990 form and a list of the 25 highest-paid employees each year.

“The current law, the way it’s written, makes it very difficult for the public to determine where this money will be coming from, whether it’s taxpayer money, whether it’s donations from alumni. We don’t have access to that information under the current law,” said Melissa Melewsky, media law counsel for the Pennsylvania
Newspaper Association.

That falls well short of where some Republican and Democratic legislators think the school’s transparency threshold should be.

Lawmakers, including Sen. Mike Stack, D-Philadelphia, want to make Penn State and the other state-related schools — Pittsburgh, Temple and Lincoln universities — subject to the broader records-disclosure requirements that any other state agency must meet.

State agencies must disclose such information as employee salaries, contracts and emails, among other records. The Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education’s 14 universities — including Millersville and Shippensburg universities — must meet those requirements.
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The $$60M really isn't that big of a deal imo, considering they have a huge alumni and student base and fans that are ready to do whatever it takes to reshape the way that Penn State is seen around the country.

Not going to bowls for 4 years is going to suck, but there will be so many players that will be able to start there in 3 years that I think those guys will go there. The opportunity to bring a program back to prominence and start from day one because Tom, Dick, and Larry are starters will probably lure a lot of talent back to Penn State.

Vacating wins...who cares? If you saw the games you know who won. This isn't a REAL punishment. You can't go back in time and take Joe off the sidelines and force his teams to lose for more than a decade.

Scholarship losses hurt, but again, they'll be able to start building again in 4 years.

I think that the media and a lot of fans are acting like Penn State was on the chopping block, but the ax clipped them and now they have to bleed out slowly in front of all of us. I don't see it that way. Yes the punishments hurt, but they're not so horrible considering the program that this happened to.
 
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DL916 said:
If they did win it wouldn't bother me. I think the people who were involved should be punished for their crime. The football program as a whole had nothing to do with sandusky's behavior.

It's the equivalent of if your VP molested a child and your President found out about it but didn't say anything about it. Should they punish all the workers or just the people responsible?
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If a company benefitted from the cover-up for 14 years, and the VP's actions were brought to light, I'm guessing there would be plenty of innocent employees who would be affected. This happens all the time with corporate scandals. See Enron and Worldcom.

The negative publicity would affect that company's ability to attract new business and retain existing clients, which would likely lead to layoffs. If the company is publicly traded, just imagine the damage done to the stock price, not to mention the 401k value of innocent employees who had nothing to do with the VP's actions.
 
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ESPN is reporting that had Penn State not accept the penalties, the NCAA was going to shut down the football program for FOUR YEARS.
 
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zjcvols said:
ESPN is reporting that had Penn State not accept the penalties, the NCAA was going to shut down the football program for FOUR YEARS.
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What's the point of even giving them an option in that case? "So, if you don't take this bowl ban and scholarship reduction, your program will be absolutely devastated for the next generation." Really, what school would ever opt for the latter?
 
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orangesparkles said:
What's the point of even giving them an option in that case? "So, if you don't take this bowl ban and scholarship reduction, your program will be absolutely devastated for the next generation." Really, what school would ever opt for the latter?
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It's like The Godfather:

The NCAA put a gun to Penn State's head and said "Either your signature or your brains are going to be on this agreement."
 
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