Personal foul from last night's game

#52
#52
blupotato said:
i understand totally what your saying, but it is impossible for me to tell when the play was blown dead and if when the cardinal player was appearing like he was taking himself out of the play correlates with the play being blown dead. flags were on the ground when it appears that he was trying to get up and move away from the block. it would just clear it up a little more.
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i agree.
 
#53
#53
The Dude said:
Was it shady? Yes. Does it happen all the time in pileups from high school to the pros? Yes. The refs got the call right, throwing the flag but not tossing him, although maybe he sould have been tossed for being so dumb to hit him where the refs could so obviously see.
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you're right.
 
#55
#55
orangeblooded2 said:
The chop to the throat....

In the back ground you can see the wave for the fair catch.the players slow and stop and the continued
....Assault.Blatant person foul.
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Neither of the players involved with this play could see that fair catch signal.
 
#57
#57
thagodfather said:
it was. he was angry and targeted that player but the push during the play is legal. an open hand was used, it was a block. the push after the play is what drew the flags.
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The flag was thrown after the push that knocked him to the ground. It came long before the second push.
 
#60
#60
jakez4ut said:
you link a blog by Princess Lesean to support why Harrison should be tossed.

awesomely pathetic.

Princess Lesean? really?
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Anything to foster ones point of view.Mine and apparently yours as well.

Pathetic,how about a guru who in order to foster his point of view uses the words,Awesomely pathitic.
 
#61
#61
Princess Lesean warrants such desecription, as does any stance taken using that as fodder to fit your cause.

i'd rather you just come up with your own thoughts than link this as something that defines how you think or as evidence as to why you have the opinion you do.
 
#62
#62
jakez4ut said:
Princess Lesean warrants such desecription, as does any stance taken using that as fodder to fit your cause.

i'd rather you just come up with your own thoughts than link this as something that defines how you think or as evidence as to why you have the opinion you do.
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I appreciate the clarification.

I thought it was a good thread with some good points.
My own thoughts are pretty well posted through out.

I see you are a steelers fan.
Congrats,My team didn't get that far.But hey,next year.
 
#63
#63
thagodfather said:
i respect your opinion, however being in the motion of a punch and then hitting with an open hand doesn't count as a punch or o-linemen would be called for that on every play. no player can take himself out of a play. until the whistle blows every player is game. if it had been a cardinal being the aggresser, i would defend him.
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Not the same thing. Rules vary depending on the situation. Can you flat out block below the waist anytime? No. If another lineman has a guy engaged then it is illegal. There are plenty of rules that revolve around the idea of a player being defenseless or in a vulnerable position.
 
#65
#65
allvol123 said:
Not the same thing. Rules vary depending on the situation. Can you flat out block below the waist anytime? No. If another lineman has a guy engaged then it is illegal. There are plenty of rules that revolve around the idea of a player being defenseless or in a vulnerable position.
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this not being an example of one. the player wanted no part of harrison and looked as if he quit while the play was going on. if the defender had been trying the play would not have looked as vicious.
 
#66
#66
thagodfather said:
this not being an example of one. the player wanted no part of harrison and looked as if he quit while the play was going on. if the defender had been trying the play would not have looked as vicious.
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Actually it is. It falls right into unncessary roughness and does not happen all the time, as you claim. Dude was in fetal position practically and JH threw his arm into his back. I don't ever recall seeing that as a normal football play that "happens all the time".
 
#67
#67
i dont know why everyone get worked up over this. you can turn on any fla game and watch their lbs do such things and everyone calls it aggressiveness
 
#68
#68
allvol123 said:
Actually it is. It falls right into unncessary roughness and does not happen all the time, as you claim. Dude was in fetal position practically and JH threw his arm into his back. I don't ever recall seeing that as a normal football play that "happens all the time".
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is it normal for an uninjured nfl player to be in the fetal position during a live play? i'm sure they will bring that up during preseason nfl meetings. while in the fetal position no player shall be touched or harmed in any way.
 
#70
#70
thagodfather said:
is it normal for an uninjured nfl player to be in the fetal position during a live play? i'm sure they will bring that up during preseason nfl meetings. while in the fetal position no player shall be touched or harmed in any way.
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Actually it is quite legal to keep him down. Nothing wrong with that. No need to have meetings on it, they already have a penalty that is called unnecessary roughness. I am still waiting to hear more on these games where you see this all the time.
 
#71
#71
allvol123 said:
Actually it is quite legal to keep him down. Nothing wrong with that. No need to have meetings on it, they already have a penalty that is called unnecessary roughness. I am still waiting to hear more on these games where you see this all the time.
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the flag wasn't thrown for the shot to the back. the shot to the back was a little weak, also. so no, it's not called unnecessary roughness. i don't understand waiting to hear on these games. if you have one recorded, watch it. other than that, i can't help you.
 
#72
#72
thagodfather said:
the flag wasn't thrown for the shot to the back. the shot to the back was a little weak, also. so no, it's not called unnecessary roughness. i don't understand waiting to hear on these games. if you have one recorded, watch it. other than that, i can't help you.
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That gets a penalty more times than it would not. It is a subjective call and it has to be seen. It can certiainly fits that definition. What is necessary about it? That is what was needed to keep him down?

I was referring to you seeing this all the time.
You're right though, you are no help.
 
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