Peyton Lewis Seems Good

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LAVol1 said:
Don't see the reason for optimism for next season. We likely lose our entire IOL. Mays will be the biggest loss, but it'll be hard to adequately replace Spraggins. We don't have a OT that we can depend on. Our current WR's haven't shown the ability to consistently get open against good competition. We lose most of the two deep DL (Simmons, Eason, Thomas, Norman-Lott, Bailey, Pierce and probably Josephs). And, we lose the best RB in the SEC. After the butt-whipping Sat. night, how in the wide world of sports does anyone see us being a playoff contender in '25?
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With 10X magnification Orange Glasses???
 
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LAVol1 said:
Don't see the reason for optimism for next season. We likely lose our entire IOL. Mays will be the biggest loss, but it'll be hard to adequately replace Spraggins. We don't have a OT that we can depend on. Our current WR's haven't shown the ability to consistently get open against good competition. We lose most of the two deep DL (Simmons, Eason, Thomas, Norman-Lott, Bailey, Pierce and probably Josephs). And, we lose the best RB in the SEC. After the butt-whipping Sat. night, how in the wide world of sports does anyone see us being a playoff contender in '25?
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Great points, and I agree with your points, I just saw lots of attrition on our opponents as well beyond uga. I think nico will learn to become a true dual threat as a result, which is a bad situation indeed regarding OL we need to get good linemen again. many of the smaller schools I like for examples compensate their woes with chess moves, another major negative for next year. We need Jimmy's & Joe's again. And an OC. And WR coach, and WRs, and OL depth. I get your valid point entirely though. Maybe next year will be a step backward however I see Huepel like a well ran startup company, he has a product and needs to sell it, but the good startups like him generally take a decade for every 5 star to consider or desire UT like they do GA, OSU, ORE, etc.

Regarding DLine we have a product to sell now, won't be overnight but if we have so many DL being prospects we will be DLU if next year Banks shows consistency
If a 5 star in California got offered by UT he likely would not consider. But if we keep consistently being pretty dominant that changes before every recruit sees consistent national recognition. Yeah we got blown out of course, but I'd take a CFP blowout for the national attention that we are there, over the basketball NIT bowl games any day. Even the negative attention aspects are attention. Don't believe me, look at my team WVU, we could pass for 1500 yards every game next year and 0 people would give a living crap.

Really my post also was to make people who are skeptical on Heupel understand Rome wasn't built in a day, Amazon sucked for years, NVIDIA was a joke for so long. Football recruiting is a sales job and we can tell people "hey we made the cfp with an average recruiting class and beat Bama constantly and knocked them out of it" vs Butches "you can come here to play music city bowl/taxslayer"
 
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LivinginthePast said:
Really impressed by his size and speed. Hopefully he turns into a beast. What is everyone’s thoughts on the play calling offensively last night ? I do believe we need some WRs that can catch the ball like Tillman used to and get open that’s important. But much much time before next season starts sadly.
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Peyton just needs to continue working on his agility and flexibility.
He's got the basis of what you want in a top RB.

Playcalling was amateurish. Has been all year long. Even the commentators were saying Nico has nowhere to throw. Love Bru, but thankfully he's gone. Thornton is boom or bust. Marquarius has been hurt for the past 6 games.

We could have switched WRs with Ohio State and we still would have lost. When you're at a disadvantage in coaching and talent - last night is the result.

Tennessee is in a great spot. But the primary mission is bringing in an offensive mind to EXPAND the current limits on this offense.

We have the QB. We need to play our recruited HS more. We have an excellent class coming in for 2025. Future is brighter than it's ever been

That Ohio State team played a bad game against Michigan. They did not against Tennessee. That's what everyone saw. We were not even in the same league with them talent wise.
But we'll be closer in 2025.

But we absolutely NEED fresh offensive minds in that coaching staff. Not saying to fire Halze but we need need need more breadth in our scheme
 
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People were worried about our running game after a lot of players left last year at RB position but Dylan Sampson stepped up. I think the same will happen this year.
 
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Majors said:
Thornton played most of the year injured and Matthews couldn’t crack the lineup to show, that’s a problem. Matthews showed promise but he was not close or in the conversation to Hyatt 2022.
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That is why if I'm Matthews, I transfer. Could be wrong and maybe he's overrated but based on limited opportunities to see him in action we are failing miserably at leveraging the talent we have in the WR room.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
Since the end of 2022, Tennessee's offense has morphed into a place where WRs don't get opportunities to make plays. We didn't attempt any downfield passes against Ohio and I'll have to rewatch to confirm, but I don't think our WRs had a favorable matchup the whole game. By that I mean matched up against a LB. Jeremiah Smith found himself in that position multiple times and padded his stats as a result. Why don't our WRs ever get a chance to run away from LBs in open space? Our offensive coaches choked.
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So what you are saying basically to answer a why? question regarding Matthews hitting the portal is because our of defensive or OL failures. And the fact that the offensive play calling did not match a LB against one of our receivers. I guess for Matthews it maybe a wait and see it may not be but odd justification for him leaving.

We were out coached and the staff was out coached. We were out schemed and our coaches planned to line up and play like they had done all season. No creativity as in our offense and defense was an open book test for Ohio State.

This game is on the staff and CJH. We are going to awe you with our record and past success. Nothing new here. Same formation alignment with no movement. Hard to make Chicken S***
into Chicken Salad.

Nothing has changed in this offensive scheme since the first game. The only game was NC State where they used short passes. Hazle has more success in a video game but no creativity with what he has got. Banks exposed as well. Knowing what he knows did not really change an alignment in the defense. Nothing new to make the OSU QB stop and think I haven't seen this before what is happening.

Disgusting planning and prep. No adjustments because there was no planning.
 
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LivinginthePast said:
Really impressed by his size and speed. Hopefully he turns into a beast. What is everyone’s thoughts on the play calling offensively last night ? I do believe we need some WRs that can catch the ball like Tillman used to and get open that’s important. But much much time before next season starts sadly.
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The play calling wouldn’t have mattered bc of Osu pushing us around at the L.O.S. It doesn’t matter who’s calling the plays if you can’t block, or get off blocks.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
So what you are saying basically to answer a why? question regarding Matthews hitting the portal is because our of defensive or OL failures. And the fact that the offensive play calling did not match a LB against one of our receivers. I guess for Matthews it maybe a wait and see it may not be but odd justification for him leaving.

We were out coached and the staff was out coached. We were out schemed and our coaches planned to line up and play like they had done all season. No creativity as in our offense and defense was an open book test for Ohio State.

This game is on the staff and CJH. We are going to awe you with our record and past success. Nothing new here. Same formation alignment with no movement. Hard to make Chicken S***
into Chicken Salad.

Nothing has changed in this offensive scheme since the first game. The only game was NC State where they used short passes. Hazle has more success in a video game but no creativity with what he has got. Banks exposed as well. Knowing what he knows did not really change an alignment in the defense. Nothing new to make the OSU QB stop and think I haven't seen this before what is happening.

Disgusting planning and prep. No adjustments because there was no planning.
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I agree with the rest of your post, but I've read this 3 times and I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say. I'm saying Matthews should transfer because it must suck to be a WR in our new offense.

I used Smith being matched up on our LBs as an example of what good offensive coordinating looks like. That was also a failure by our defense. Tim Banks should have called a timeout before Howard threw that interception in the end zone. We are lucky that Howard threw the ball off Carter's back. That play, if executed properly, should have resulted in Ohio's lead growing to 28-0. But again, it's also an example of an OC creating a good matchup for his best player.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with "OL failures" comment but regardless of who is to blame, our offense was not WR friendly in 2024. If I'm a 5-star receiver, unless the coaches show me how things will be different in 2025, I'm out.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
Bryce Underwood, but after I posted that I edited it because even with Underwood Michigan is going to be a heavy run offense.

Tennessee is not a WR friendly place to be right now. I don't know how that's changed so dramatically in the past two years but when you don't attempt downfield passes and your OC can't figure out a way to create good matchups for you it's going to be tough to impress NFL scouts.
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Michigan’s identity isn’t that much different than ours. They run to setup the pass. No other team in the country runs a higher percentage of play action than we do.
It sounds like you’re completely out on Nico already for a guy that has the same high school pedigree Nico had. I’m not ready to sell that stock .
 
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Majors said:
Thornton played most of the year injured and Matthews couldn’t crack the lineup to show, that’s a problem. Matthews showed promise but he was not close or in the conversation to Hyatt 2022.
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Huh?? Hyatt was a junior in 2022. How could you expect....(Sigh)

This is why I've been away from this board.

Alright that's it lol

I'm out
 
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LittleVol said:
Huh?? Hyatt was a junior in 2022. How could you expect....(Sigh)

This is why I've been away from this board.

Alright that's it lol

I'm out
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Probably need to stay away…Hyatt was the last one to open up the playbook. It wasn’t that he’s a Jr, it was we haven’t had speed since. Best of luck, we have the watch now.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Michigan’s identity isn’t that much different than ours. They run to setup the pass. No other team in the country runs a higher percentage of play action than we do.
It sounds like you’re completely out on Nico already for a guy that has the same high school pedigree Nico had. I’m not ready to sell that stock .
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How on earth did you arrive at me being out on Nico??? I'm probably his biggest supporter in the universe. I literally made a preseason bet on Tennessee winning the natty 100% because I believe in him. After the game Saturday, that belief has only increased. Nico is an absolute stud and will be the #1 pick in the 2027 NFL draft. My opinion of this offense being a sucky place to be for a WR has nothing to do with Nico.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
How on earth did you arrive at me being out on Nico??? I'm probably his biggest supporter in the universe. I literally made a preseason bet on Tennessee winning the natty 100% because I believe in him. After the game Saturday, that belief has only increased. Nico is an absolute stud and will be the #1 pick in the 2027 NFL draft. My opinion of this offense being a sucky place to be for a WR has nothing to do with Nico.
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Because you were talking about how our best future wide receiver should be going to play w/ Underwood at Michigan. That was how I arrived there. Playing for Texas as a wideout is completely different than Michigan
 
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207 others said:
Question-- do you know how to [look at our recruits] but by position for each year? I really want to see each position since 2020 year by year if that makes sense, ty sir good post too
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I don't have that info, but it does seem that JH does a good job of getting guys like Squirrel White, who's a really good player, but doesn't scare too many teams to adjust their scheme, and on top of that, for some reason, our top level WR recruits, like Mike Matthews, are very slow to hit the field. We've seen he has talent, and other frosh @ WR are making their mark around the country, but young guys like Matthews, Staley, Leacock (portal) are, for some reason not in the game plans to a large degree. I'm not a coach, so I can't pass judgement on whether they should play or not...but it's either a mis-evaluation or possible lack of coaching up or a lack of not wanting to disrupt the pecking order in seniority...all of which aren't good, b/c our starting WR's have largely failed to deliver this year.
 
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Majors said:
Thornton played most of the year injured and Matthews couldn’t crack the lineup to show, that’s a problem. Matthews showed promise but he was not close or in the conversation to Hyatt 2022.
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Hyatt was amazing no doubt but do you remember how often he was all alone? No defender within 20 yards of him. He got schemed open A LOT. Being able to run that fast pace offense really helped out our receivers and the offense in general. It doesn't feel like our coaches can run a normal offense.
 
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GVF said:
Apparently he couldn't get open saturday either. Think I heard his name once for being on the field, but never actually saw him, or if he was even targeted. I've heard all this talk about him, so why did he never get teh promotion. As many balls as Nimrod and Brazzles left on the ground all year, I would have had Matthews on regular rotation by game 3 if he's all that. Geez, look at that freshamn at Bama, or OSU and sveral other places. Those guys are 100 legit. I'm all for what the coaches see and know. I'm not one and this ain't baseball or I would exercise knowledge of play and coaching. But...I'm still on the fence on Nico. Statistically, he has been on a flat plane all year and has not progressed at all. And I'm not sure about these cool cat guys. At some point a leader has to voice up and lead.

But, he gets ton of credit for lowering his head and grinding it out saturday. Didn't seem to inspire any of his teammates. Not his fault. but he took a beating trying to help out and do his part.
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The routes are **** and the teachings are worse. The concept needs flare like we had with Ced and Hyatt. Gotta have a wr who can turn 5 into 50. We need to use the middle of the field until they stop it and then take the top off. None of the wr's Pope has coached got better. Jalin Hyatt worked on himself and spent time on his hands. He already had the rest and they found ways to isolate him on people they knew couldn't cover him. Halze isn't finding matchups to get his best players in position to do those things. That was Golesh. But this dude ain't developing WR's
 
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bpalmer28 said:
In the post you replied to I explained that I edited the post where I suggested Michigan after remembering how run-heavy Michigan's offense is. Sorry for the confusion.
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Gotcha. I do agree that we need to find the balance that we had. A think that there are a lot factors at play.
 
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njvols said:
I don't have that info, but it does seem that JH does a good job of getting guys like Squirrel White, who's a really good player, but doesn't scare too many teams to adjust their scheme, and on top of that, for some reason, our top level WR recruits, like Mike Matthews, are very slow to hit the field. We've seen he has talent, and other frosh @ WR are making their mark around the country, but young guys like Matthews, Staley, Leacock (portal) are, for some reason not in the game plans to a large degree. I'm not a coach, so I can't pass judgement on whether they should play or not...but it's either a mis-evaluation or possible lack of coaching up or a lack of not wanting to disrupt the pecking order in seniority...all of which aren't good, b/c our starting WR's have largely failed to deliver this year.
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Pretty much where I've been on the WR room this year. All year. And I get why so many people are so high on Nico. He's a talent. But, he's a starting RSF in a system he had a red shirt year in. Not like he was a True Freshman. Yet, his progression over the season was non-existant. Flat lined all year statistically, such as completion % for one. Hung around the 60-63% mark pretty consistently. So...is it him or development, or holding him back on field when they should be letting him learn to fly. And with the QB's we have in the wings and coming in, will they get a chance to displace him if they are able, or will they get lined up in the pecking order.
 
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Nico's main problems right now are an Oline that can't create a pocket and Nico's inability to keep looking downfield when he scrambles. He can develop the ability to look downfield easy. We just need to get him an Oline and more experience.
 
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LivinginthePast said:
Really impressed by his size and speed. Hopefully he turns into a beast. What is everyone’s thoughts on the play calling offensively last night ? I do believe we need some WRs that can catch the ball like Tillman used to and get open that’s important. But much much time before next season starts sadly.
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Every time I see him run I wonder why he doesn't play more. Probably a blocking issue (I guess, I really haven't payed much attention to that with him). From my couch he looks like he could be an NFL back.
 
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