Pig Howard's role next season

[MikeVol44]

How is this garbage? I asked an honest question. I didn't trash Pig. Just wondered what folks might see him doing next year.

It ain't garbage--it's right on target. We need Pearson and Malone to be good enough to win more playing time in the slot than Pig--Pearson, for sure. :hi:

 

[KBVol]

really--a playmaker--just trying to be realistic here.

I know that Pig made some plays--most good, but did he really display the ability to be a game-changer? He had a VERY good UGA game, but other than that (and the penalty against Candy)--can you name some big plays Pig was involved in that changed the game?

Is Pig a danger to take any ball he catches to the house? Does Pig strike fear in the hearts of SEC defenses with his speed and play-making ability?

I think the answer to these last 2 questions is a resounding NO...

I hope that Malone and Pearson do see time in the slot next year, especially Pearson. If we need a guy to catch 100 balls in the slot--I want it to be Pearson first, and Malone 2nd. :salute:

Spot on. Not trying to disparage Pig, he just is who he is.... solid, tough nosed fairly athletic player. But he's not the dynamic playmaker that we need taking a majority of snaps. He can rotate in, provide quality depth and make solid contributions. He's not in Pearson's or Malone's league IMO ... Don't even have to mention North.

 

[GrowVol]

Hey let me ask. Since you saw the play again, would the player that he clipped have tackled Dobbs had Pig not blocked him? Another poster claimed that was the case and that Dobbs wouldn't have scored had Pig not blocked him in the back so we shouldn't even blame Pig for that. I remember thinking at the time that the block was unnecessary and Pig should've never touched the guy.

What do you think after watching it again?

Man, after watching that play again, I think you are exactly right, congrats, guess we all are. I believe that DB may have tackled Dobbs. Pig was in block motion just about the time DB turned, and got called for a block in the back. I just didn't care for the ref call.

 

[Vol865]

I could be wrong. But I gotta feeling that our 3 most talented WRs, outside or slot, on the team next year, will be North, Malone and Pearson. I would also bet that those are the 3 that will be on the field the majority of the time. Not saying that Pig and I guess Croom, hopefully a Johnson or Jenkins or Wharton (dear GOD please no Josh Smith) won't get a lot of snaps and be consistently in the rotation. Just that UT should get their 3 most talented WR playmakers on the field as much as possible. With the addition of Pearson and Malone IMO, Pig is now the 4th.

We are very talented at WR but Pig is considered a leader of the WR corps and plays with an attitude. No way he doesn't get a lot of touches. He is the most game ready as of now.

 

[Vol865]

really--a playmaker--just trying to be realistic here.

I know that Pig made some plays--most good, but did he really display the ability to be a game-changer? He had a VERY good UGA game, but other than that (and the penalty against Candy)--can you name some big plays Pig was involved in that changed the game?

Is Pig a danger to take any ball he catches to the house? Does Pig strike fear in the hearts of SEC defenses with his speed and play-making ability?

I think the answer to these last 2 questions is a resounding NO...

I hope that Malone and Pearson do see time in the slot next year, especially Pearson. If we need a guy to catch 100 balls in the slot--I want it to be Pearson first, and Malone 2nd. :salute:

Can u name a QB that could get him the ball any other game?

Ftr Pig isn't exactly slow. Do you think teams are worried about welker housing it? no tgeyre worried that he will pick up big conversions in the middle of the field.

 

[volfan10735]

Pig's touchdown won the Georgia game. Somehow the field striping crew got their measurement marks off and the endzone was further than it was supposed to be. I saw it with my own eyes.

 

[KBVol]

We are very talented at WR but Pig is considered a leader of the WR corps and plays with an attitude. No way he doesn't get a lot of touches. He is the most game ready as of now.

I believe he'll get a lot of touches... just not a majority of the snaps. He was our best playmaker outside of North on last years team. However, it's a bit hollow because our WR corps was so awful.

Being the best WR on last year's team is kinda like being the smartest kid in summer school.... not much of a compliment.

 

[Vol865]

I believe he'll get a lot of touches... just not a majority of the snaps. He was our best playmaker outside of North on last years team. However, it's a bit hollow because our WR corps was so awful.

Being the best WR on last year's team is kinda like being the smartest kid in summer school.... not much of a compliment.

He will be a junior. Was the focal point of touches last year. He will get majority PT. The value Pig brings to the WR corps is being way underappreciated. Idk if it is because he tried to sell out on a block or what but its one play. He could be an all american next year (not saying he is or isnt to that level) and people would still talk about the block in the back.

At the same time, he will have someone to step in and be little to no drop off, so maybe not quite as much PT. Not due to talent but just to keep our WRs rested.

The guy will be good, just wait until the QB can actually throw an accurate pass.

 

[jasonvol18]

He will start even though we are bringing in some talented guys. BTW, he is our best slot receiver and most proven pass catcher along with North.

Nobody knows if he will start or not, the Coach's don't even know right now. Could be Pig, Johnson,Jenkins, Wharton. Not sure where they line Pearson up but if he is a slot guy he could be there. Many possibilities.

 

[Vol865]

Nobody knows if he will start or not, the Coach's don't even know right now. Could be Pig, Johnson,Jenkins, Wharton. Not sure where they line Pearson up but if he is a slot guy he could be there. Many possibilities.

IMO This how it will probably look.

WR1: North
WR2: Pearson
Slot: Pig
TE: Croom (hopefully)
And everyone else will rotate in


Pig will start

 

[Lefteye]

IMO This how it will probably look.

WR1: North
WR2: Pearson
Slot: Pig
TE: Croom (hopefully)
And everyone else will rotate in


Pig will start

I don't mean to hijack a thread, but is their a chance Helm or Wolf take on the stating TE role?

 

[KBVol]

He will be a junior. Was the focal point of touches last year. He will get majority PT. The value Pig brings to the WR corps is being way underappreciated. Idk if it is because he tried to sell out on a block or what but its one play. He could be an all american next year (not saying he is or isnt to that level) and people would still talk about the block in the back.

At the same time, he will have someone to step in and be little to no drop off, so maybe not quite as much PT. Not due to talent but just to keep our WRs rested.

The guy will be good, just wait until the QB can actually throw an accurate pass.

All fair points. I'm pulling for him for sure. Hope he blows up in the slot. Just hard to know who he really is to me at this point.

 

[KBVol]

IMO This how it will probably look.

WR1: North
WR2: Pearson
Slot: Pig
TE: Croom (hopefully)
And everyone else will rotate in


Pig will start

Croom at TE? I don't know, I think he stays at WR to provide depth. He's only 225 and he's just not a physical player. Even if he was, he'd have to put on 20-30 lbs and learn the position.

We have 2 stud top-ranked TEs in Helm and Wolff coming in..... Thank GOD. I think we see those 2 come in and take over the position. Jmo.

 

[Lefteye]

I don't mean to hijack a thread, but is their a chance Helm or Wolf take on the stating TE role?

Croom at TE? I don't know, I think he stays at WR to provide depth. He's only 225 and he's just not a physical player. Even if he was, he'd have to put on 20-30 lbs and learn the position.

We have 2 stud top-ranked TEs in Helm and Wolff coming in..... Thank GOD. I think we see those 2 come in and take over the position. Jmo.

Thank you. :salute:

 

[KBVol]

Thank you. :salute:

You're welcome. Although you never should've burned down Andre Rison's house..... and I think you're now dead.

Anywho, glad we agree on the TE position.

 

[Lefteye]

You're welcome. Although you never should've burned down Andre Rison's house..... and I think you're now dead.

Anywho, glad we agree on the TE position.

That fool shouldn't have been steppin out with all those tramps.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Pig did improve this year--but if he's our best in the slot next year then we are gonna be in trouble, that's hard to say and it's JMO. I would like to see our slot guy be a danger to take it to the house every time he touches the ball, and Pig is not that kind of player. He's not a Stallworth type of guy, and we need the slot receiver to be like that.

I would think Malone or Pearson will end up spending a lot of time in the slot--don't know which will end up there, but I expect both to learn the position.

Some on here think that Croom is not physical enough to play TE. You may be right, but Croom is a weapon who needs to be utilized. If he can get faster--then maybe he could start at a WR opposite North--and both Malone and Pearson could learn the slot--or Malone could split time at WR behind North or Croom.

I would still like to see Croom line up in the TE position and run some seam routes or patterns down the middle of the field between the safeties--He's a huge target who has the height to catch the ball above LBs, and has the size to be a mismatch with most safeties.

I would not rule out seeing Pig get more playing time next year at RB--especially in certain 3rd down situations. He'd be a mismatch on any LB attempting to cover him. And we do not have the depth at the position necessary for the SEC...

Just my 0.02....and that's about all it's worth...GO VOLS! :salute:

I'm not trying to sound snooty, but besides Malone/Pearson playing some a lot, I don't see any of this happening.

The staff won't line Pig up in the backfield unless it's a wildcat look. Especially with the talet we're bringing in at RB next season.

Croom won't be lined up at TE. Sure, he could probably beat LBs in coverage, but if we lined him up at TE, everybody would know we were going to throw the ball. He's not a guy who can block LBs or DEs. As a TE, he would be very much in the Jared Cook mold and wouldn't fit our offense. We had a serious deficit of talent at TE last year and the staff still wouldn't move him to TE. What makes you think they'd do it this year after we've brought in talent at TE?

 

[Rockytoptalker]

I don't mean to hijack a thread, but is their a chance Helm or Wolf take on the stating TE role?

It's tough to say, Wolf is a big kid who will be used more as a run blocker, whereas Helm is more of a pass-catching TE. So overall they're two different types of players at the same position, which makes it all the more intriguing. Physically, Wolf is ahead of Helm, but Helm is more athletic.

 

[KBVol]

It's tough to say, Wolf is a big kid who will be used more as a run blocker, whereas Helm is more of a pass-catching TE. So overall they're two different types of players at the same position, which makes it all the more intriguing. Physically, Wolf is ahead of Helm, but Helm is more athletic.

And both are significant upgrades from Downs and Branisel.

 

[Rockytoptalker]

And both are significant upgrades from Downs and Branisel.

I will agree with you on Downs, haven't seen enough of Bransiel to say for certain on him. Downs has the benefit of experience, but that's about it.

 

[vol-un-tear]

No more end arounds! Get him the ball crossing over the middle. Get him in space and up the field.

 

[Vol865]

Croom at TE? I don't know, I think he stays at WR to provide depth. He's only 225 and he's just not a physical player. Even if he was, he'd have to put on 20-30 lbs and learn the position.

We have 2 stud top-ranked TEs in Helm and Wolff coming in..... Thank GOD. I think we see those 2 come in and take over the position. Jmo.

Helm is a little smaller than him. Croom has said in an interview I watched he has to watch his weight more since playing WR so I think he could bulk up a little if needed. He would really only NEED to get to 235-240. I think with his size and speed he would be a mismatch nightmare

 

[governmentmule]

I think that Pig will get his plays in,just because he has been in CBJ system,there is a lot of speculation on the freshmen coming in,I'm sure they are fast and good,but they will need time to get used to CBJs system and college life in general,so who really knows ? like CBJ has said,every position is open

 

[mscox75]

If you'll notice Butch and the other coaches call him Alton.
He probably hates the nickname

Disagree....The game announcer calls him PIG....that is a choice by Alton.

So, Ill call him Pig.....coach probably wants to keep it business.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Helm is a little smaller than him. Croom has said in an interview I watched he has to watch his weight more since playing WR so I think he could bulk up a little if needed. He would really only NEED to get to 235-240. I think with his size and speed he would be a mismatch nightmare

He doesn't have the skill set to play TE in our system. Sure, helm is a bit smaller, but he's much more physical (even played LB in high school). It's a mentality thing.