Pimpin' Ron Paul

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GAVol said:
I hope your e-mail address is set to private. A post like this will have your inbox full of spam from the Ron Paul kooks in no time flat.
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:rofl: You're probably right! The Paulistas are CRAZY! :eek:hmy:
 
#52
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MG1968 said:
Paul didn't exactly win over the military vote with his "bring 'em all home, even the ones in Europe, Korea, Japan, etc." comment.

His 1930's era isolationism just isn't going to fly in the 21st century.
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The military vote is going to spread across several candidates, imo. Not one really comes flying across to me as one person who screams that a high majority of people in the military will vote for....but, maybe others here who have served will disagree.

I don't mind a good number of Paul's ideas and I think that his isolationism view would break down a bit if he actually got into the White House.....though of course he would scale back tremendously

I just think his tax plans are borderline idiotic, ridiculous, and incredibly short-sighted.

Good guy, Good views, terrible-terrible tax ideas
 
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Like I said before - his ties to the Mises group and the League of the South will come back to haunt him. I was told it was a fringe group Paul repeatedly distanced himself from but now he has fingerprints all over affiliating with these types.
 
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Paul made an ass of himself last night over the subject of the Navy's confrontation with Iranian naval forces, to the degree in which he had to be asked what he was talking about.

He sounds shrill and unbalanced at times and his supporters have to be embarrassed by his performance last night.
 
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MG1968 said:
Paul made an ass of himself last night over the subject of the Navy's confrontation with Iranian naval forces, to the degree in which he had to be asked what he was talking about.

He sounds shrill and unbalanced at times and his supporters have to be embarrassed by his performance last night.
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You know, in a small way, I agree with Ron Paul.

I agree in the sense that so many people in this country tend to over-blown things that don't need to be AND we under-blow things that SHOULD have our attention

This incident was in fact a serious and questionable one but hearing some people talk....either they don't know what ACTUALLY happened or they just want to come off as hardcore American.

Paul makes a great point in that we should have some patience with incidents like these. There is no need to rush to all these comments about fighting with Iran.

The normal Joe has not even the SLIGHTEST clue what war with Iran would take. It is comical for me to personally sit back and here these politicians and people talk about war with Iran as if the Iraq war would be a good barometer for how the Iran conflict would go. That to me shows the typical Washington ignorance with the Middle East and ESPECIALLY Iran. This country right now is prepared to fight ANYONE in the world. But we are NOT prepared to take over Iran after the military conflict is through.

If people want to start war with Iran or North Korea, expect a draft in which your children will be a part of because those two countries will require forces that we have never seen before in terms of military conflict and POST-conflict.

Now, those are just my views and I am sure others may not agree. I know that my nephew sure doesn't and he is still in South Korea at the moment filling out a requirement that he loves. He believes we could go without a draft. I completely and utterly disagree. I am one of those overly-cautious men.
 
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U-T said:
You know, in a small way, I agree with Ron Paul.

I agree in the sense that so many people in this country tend to over-blown things that don't need to be AND we under-blow things that SHOULD have our attention

This incident was in fact a serious and questionable one but hearing some people talk....either they don't know what ACTUALLY happened or they just want to come off as hardcore American.

Paul makes a great point in that we should have some patience with incidents like these. There is no need to rush to all these comments about fighting with Iran.

The normal Joe has not even the SLIGHTEST clue what war with Iran would take. It is comical for me to personally sit back and here these politicians and people talk about war with Iran as if the Iraq war would be a good barometer for how the Iran conflict would go. That to me shows the typical Washington ignorance with the Middle East and ESPECIALLY Iran. This country right now is prepared to fight ANYONE in the world. But we are NOT prepared to take over Iran after the military conflict is through.

If people want to start war with Iran or North Korea, expect a draft in which your children will be a part of because those two countries will require forces that we have never seen before in terms of military conflict and POST-conflict.

Now, those are just my views and I am sure others may not agree. I know that my nephew sure doesn't and he is still in South Korea at the moment filling out a requirement that he loves. He believes we could go without a draft. I completely and utterly disagree. I am one of those overly-cautious men.
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All of our problems in the Middle East were caused after WWI and inflamed even more after 1948 (Israel). The borders of Pakistan, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq were all creations of Western countries (mainly Great Britain). Iraq should be 3 countries, Pakistan should be 3 or more (the name Pakistan is an acronym for the different tribes). The artifical boundaries drawn up and the influence of the West in propping up these leaders for our best interests is not helping the matter at all. We should have been letting these guys in Iraq fight it out as soon as Saddam was toppled and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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the problem here is that the naval commanders on the scene exercised remarkable restraint even when the Iranian craft were within 200 meters. Paul answered the question as if the Navy opened fire at the direction of the White House and obliterated the targets, thus precipitating a broader, military conflict with Iran. It made Paul look like a fool, especially when Brit Hume jumped in to remind him that no shots were fired and that the navy officers on the scene did precisely the opposite of what Paul was suggesting was White House policy.
 
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MG1968 said:
Paul answered the question as if the Navy opened fire at the direction of the White House and obliterated the targets, thus precipitating a broader, military conflict with Iran.
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And the others answered as if the five Iran boat had opened fired at the direction of President Mahmoud Adhmadinejad causing a war between Iran and the US. Again, I am NOT saying we should just dismiss this incident but to go to the extreme of war is absurd.

It is very easy for Huckabee and others to talk about sending those Iranians "back to hell".....it is another to actually do it AND (AND AND AND) control the situation afterwards.
 
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TIGER DEN said:
:devilsmoke:
can anyone tell me if hussein has taken any money from the naacp ( you don't know if you don't ax somebody ):naughty:
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have you ever considered how racist you and steve are coming across as? As a conservative who often votes republican, I'd like to thank both of you for perpetuating the stereotype and for acting as shining examples of why it was important for the Union to win the Civil War.
 
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MG1968 said:
Ron Paul's past is going to catch up with him sooner or later, and his endorsement by various racist organizations is hardly coincidental.

Selections From Ron Paul's Newsletters
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Let me see you think that it's ok to bring up that ron paul is taking money from a white group of people but unfair to talk abut hussein taking money from a black group of people ( which i didn't snope, i just ask if he did ) I may very well be a racist, but it's not because of a mans skin color ! it is against a religion that states death to infidels:mega_shok: Call me what you choose , clone racist , whatever , it means absolutly nothing ! I think we're right back where we started you preaching one thing and doing another :lolabove:
 
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TIGER DEN said:
I think we're right back where we started you preaching one thing and doing another
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Welcome to Politics 101 in today's world

No matter who gets elected, the other will claim this and they will probably be right in several issues and wrong in others.

Using today as an example, no other current person today gives off this do-as-I-say, not-what-I-do as Karl Rove...especially his recent comments towards some Democrat (Clinton or Obama) for hiding documents of some sort....as I need to get into his last year or so with that type of thing?
 
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