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utvol0427

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This is being discussed in another thread so I thought I would start it's own. For all of those people who think that college football should adopt a playoff system (myself not included), how would they determine who would play in the playoff?
 
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ddubb76 said:
let the bcs computer polls pick em.
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So the BCS is not good enough to decide who plays in a BCS National Championship game, yet it is good enough to decide who plays in a playoff? Instead of arguing over what two teams should be able to play for a NC you would be arguing over which team should be in the playoffs and which ones shouldn't.
 
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Top 8 teams in some national poll (BCS or AP). Fact is, the BCS (or any other poll) has a better chance of getting it right by taking the top 8 instead of just the top 2.
 
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utvol0427 said:
This is being discussed in another thread so I thought I would start it's own. For all of those people who think that college football should adopt a playoff system (myself not included), how would they determine who would play in the playoff?
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Take the top four ranked teams after the bowls. I can't think of a single year where that wouldn't have been sufficient. Most years, simply playing 1 v. 2 after the bowls would suffice.
 
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I like the BCS.

It's not perfect, but it's the best way of deciding the national champs while preserving the importance of the regular season.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Take the top four ranked teams after the bowls. I can't think of a single year where that wouldn't have been sufficient. Most years, simply playing 1 v. 2 after the bowls would suffice.
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I'd also be okay with that +1 matchup.
 
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I think that a playoff would probably add too many games to the season. A plus one is probably the best option. That way, the top 4 teams have a shot. I would like an 8 team playoff...and there would be a lot of contreversy about who gets left out..but once you play that gauntlet..you would be crowned NC without question. I just think those three extra games would be tough at the end of the season. A plus one gets 2 more teams in the mix and drastically reduces the chances of an unbeaten team (from a real conference) getting left out of the mix.
 
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milohimself said:
I like the BCS.

It's not perfect, but it's the best way of deciding the national champs while preserving the importance of the regular season.
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I agree completely, even though you live in PAC-10 country.:) They need to stay with the BCS or some type of poll or go back to the AP and Coaches Poll and have the Bowl Alliance.
 
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I think that these computer polls should be held more accountable for their formulas. How were these picked? What's their history? I am beginning to have some serious problems with a few of the anomolies that are popping up. And, let's face it. If they have to have a complete season of stats to make good decisions - that isn't good enough! The AP and Coaches poll are basing their decisions to some degree off of BCS results..IMO. Not entirely, mind you. But, I think that UT not being in the top 10 in the BCS is hurting us in the human polls. I guess that the comp polls are very proprietary..is there any information available on the formulas?
 
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Six conference champions. The six conferences decided by a BCS-style conference ranking sytem. That leaves two at-large spots. One decided by the top ranked BCS team that is left. The last decided by a selection comittee similar to the one that seeds the NCAA basketball tournament.

Go back the eleven-gmae regular season. All conferences go to a conference championship game.

If you're not in a conference, you are not eligible for the playoff.

Great system, if I do say so myself.
 
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Hat was right on.

Instead of adding the 5th BCS bowl, just send the teams where are traditionally supposed to. (Like big 10 vs pac 10 in the rose bowl)

Then the 5th BCS bowl is what happens with the top 2 teams after that week.

This keeps the regular season important.

I think Kirk Hirbstreet had that idea.
 
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I agree with dubb. Let the BCS standings pick'em. Say take the top 12 and let the top four have bye weeks the first round and play 4 thru 12. So on and so on for 4 weeks during December.

If you take the top twelve then all the one loss teams have a shot for the national title. That way they still get a chance if they mess up one game. If you get two losses and don't make the final 12 then it's hard for you to complain IMO. Even tho a few two loss teams will probably make it.

Or take the top six conferences (hopefully we all know who they are) and make them all add twelve teams and have a champ game. Take the champs from each conference and then add six at-large teams. Take the top four conf. champs, according to BCS rankings, and give them bye weeks. Let the two other lowest ranked conf. champ teams play in the first round. Play for four weeks.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Hat was right on.

Instead of adding the 5th BCS bowl, just send the teams where are traditionally supposed to. (Like big 10 vs pac 10 in the rose bowl)

Then the 5th BCS bowl is what happens with the top 2 teams after that week.

This keeps the regular season important.

I think Kirk Hirbstreet had that idea.
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Doing the +1 system would be the same thing as adding another week to the season. Nothing would really be accomplished by adding a +1 after the bowl games. The bowl games wouldn't help seperate the true #1 and #2 and more than the last week of the season does.
 
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Use the playoff system being used in Div II and Div III, or shorten it to 16 teams.

College football is the only major sport in any organization where the champion is not decided on the field by a playoff system.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Doing the +1 system would be the same thing as adding another week to the season. Nothing would really be accomplished by adding a +1 after the bowl games. The bowl games wouldn't help seperate the true #1 and #2 and more than the last week of the season does.
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Yes it would. What is extreemly special about the last week of the season.

Letting them play bowls first is making them play agaisnt teams who are good.
 
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If it is set up such at 1 plays 3 and 2 plays 4 in the bowl games...then it further sorts out these teams. I think that it is obviously different. The polls can hardly distinguish the better team between 2/3 or 3/4. So, then they get to distinguish it for themselves ON the field.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Doing the +1 system would be the same thing as adding another week to the season. Nothing would really be accomplished by adding a +1 after the bowl games. The bowl games wouldn't help seperate the true #1 and #2 and more than the last week of the season does.
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Yes, they would. In '03, LSU and USC would have played. In '04, Auburn and USC would have played.
 
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Also, in 2000, Oklahoma would have played Miami.

in 2001, Miami would have played Oregon.

In 1998, we probably would have met the Buckeyes, but not sure.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Also, in 2000, Oklahoma would have played Miami.

in 2001, Miami would have played Oregon.

In 1998, we probably would have met the Buckeyes, but not sure.
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Those three years aren't great examples. OU, the "U", and the Vols were all the only undefeated team standing. None of those teams should have had to prove themselves further.

Postscript-Final score of a game between the '01 'Canes and Oregon.
The "U"-773
Oregon--9.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Those three years aren't great examples. OU, the "U", and the Vols were all the only undefeated team standing. None of those teams should have had to prove themselves further.
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No, but I do believe they had the wrong 1 loss team in there.

And there are few teams that could come near miami in 2001. I laugh when people this year say the Buckeyes this year are better than Miami that year.
 
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milohimself said:
I like the BCS.

It's not perfect, but it's the best way of deciding the national champs while preserving the importance of the regular season.
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I have never understood the idea of a playoff devaluing the regular season. Does anyone really care about Houston playing Tulsa this weekend? What about a playoff devalues the regular season. You have 2 spots for a NC game right now, with that, you have teams as far back as UT with fans discussing how they can get into the NC game. If it were 4 or 8 spots available for NC contention, it would just deepen the line of teams with fans screaming about trying to get in. It would not devalue the regular season.
 
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