POLL: On record, how many years should CBJ get to prove himself

How many years should Butch Jones have to prove himself?

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VolLee

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I was just thinking about how much I really want CBJ to succeed and that I want to see what he can do without getting too impatient.

I think right now would be a really good time for all of us to go on record and say how many years we think CBJ should have to prove himself before a decision is made to keep him or not (not that we have much of a say in the issue).

I know that our emotions can get the best of us when things aren't going the way we want.
 
#2
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Usually, the first season is 5-6 wins. If the system is going to work, the second season should be 9-10 wins. At the latest, the third season should produce 9-10 wins.

Otherwise, the system will not work....90-95% of the time....this has proven to be true in the last couple of decades.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Usually, the first season is 5-6 wins. If the system is going to work, the second season should be 9-10 wins. At the latest, the third season should produce 9-10 wins.

Otherwise, the system will not work....90-95% of the time....this has proven to be true in the last couple of decades.
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I remember reading something about this. Sounds right.
 
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It depends on the year-by-year progress...I understand the issues Dooley had with rebuilding the roster and lack of depth, but it took him 3 years before we were even competitive. This will not be tolerated again, but I have faith that it will not happen again because CBJ is better prepared for success by his resume, than Dooley was...
 
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In line with what others are saying, the question for me (which matters zilch, obviously) is not whether he has X record by Y year. It's whether the team gets progressively better year by year. Short of a miracle, we're going to have a terrible W-L record next year, but even if we go 5-7 again, discerning fans should have some sense of whether we're headed in the right direction.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Usually, the first season is 5-6 wins. If the system is going to work, the second season should be 9-10 wins. At the latest, the third season should produce 9-10 wins.

Otherwise, the system will not work....90-95% of the time....this has proven to be true in the last couple of decades.
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I would say that you are right on the money. Given our schedule next year, talent level BJ inherited, and playing in the SEC... VN should be happy with:

Year 1: 5 wins or more
Year 2: 8 wins or more
Year 3: 9 wins or more

If those results, or better, are not seen... we will probably be seeing another round of buyouts and UT football going another ten years behind in returning to the NC hunt. That being said, GBO!
 
#12
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Let him serve out his 6 year contract, no matter how he does. If he is fired, there will be another enormous buy-out, and UT will just hire another coach who is no better. Just fire the administrators who hired him, and make their replacements demonstrate their competence before allowing them to pick another coach.
 
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Might as well stick it out with him if he's half way decent... Our administration has proved time and time again that they can't attract the big name guys.. Something is clearly wrong at the top.. I have my doubts we'll see real good times until that problem is fixed..
 
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3 years, assuming nothing just horrible happens.

Like going winless in the SEC, losing to UK, or Penn State type stuff.

But, I guess a lot of it depends on how many wins/ quality wins = "proving himself". For me it's 8 wins with at least one good one from our SEC east rivals.
 
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I say 7 wins first year. Why bring in a new coach if he isnt going to get u to a bowl game.

None of this rebuilding bs his roaster is not depleted.
 
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In a competative market, which head coaching is, you should prove yourself each and every year. I'm not saying he has to even win 6 games next year to prove himself but some form of tangible success will go far. An imporved D with 5 wins would be enough in my book for year 1 to be honest.
 
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you can't throw out numbers because if you see inprovement year after year then you keep giving him years but if he dooley's it up then 3 at most
 
#20
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Every coach that has won the SEC since 92, has won 9 games (10 except for Tubberville) by their second year at the team he was won the SEC title at.
 
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Cartervol said:
Might as well stick it out with him if he's half way decent... Our administration has proved time and time again that they can't attract the big name guys.. Something is clearly wrong at the top.. I have my doubts we'll see real good times until that problem is fixed..
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100% agree.
 
#22
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I say 4 unless he does really something really embarrassing like losing to KY with a WR at QB, then I say 2 years
 
#23
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Depends.

If he goes 3-9 this year, then please get out of Knoxville and the state asap. Please.

I don't expect 10-2 next year, but this nonsense about the schedule is just that. We play Vandy, KY, Auburn, Missouri, Austin Peay, Western KY, and South Alabama. It's not like the entire schedule is murderers' row.

I see no reason he shouldn't go 7-5. He has some games like Oregon and Alabama that we have little or no hope of winning, but we should at least expect the team to be competitive.

Unless he's a bush league hack like Dooley, and we'll see what he is early on, just like anyone paying attention could with Dooley.
 
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I had set my definition of success:

1) consecutive 8 win season
and
2) consecutive top 10 recruiting classes.
 
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